Will Rapid Start and KLN hurt Micro Bio?

toomp

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Got some tea I want to give some slow moving plants in veg along with Myco
Will a 1 ML of Rapid Start and 1 ML of KLN hurt the Tea and the Myco life mixed in the same jug?
 

OKLP

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I would think do. Maybe add the nutes first, and the Myco the day after?
 

hyroot

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given the company that makes it I would say so. The Ingredients in it can be derived chemically, synthetically, or organically. Most likely they are chems. Which kill off microbes. You can check with oda.org
 

toomp

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got some info from a very knowledgeable person says its ok so for you all that want to pump up the hormones on the roots go for it
 

SpaaaceCowboy

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bump...just wanted to double check that it is ok to use this in organics ?

I have used Azos and mycorrhizae during transplants and so far have not been blown away....The Rapid Start has blown up plants on me big time.

The material data sheet is a little scary....Not supposed to get it on your skin, etc...Does this mean it can get transmitted through the plant, and into your smoke ? Or, am I way off base here ?

material data sheet :

http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/prod_msds/RapidStart.pdf
 

Pattahabi

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Got some tea I want to give some slow moving plants in veg along with Myco
Will a 1 ML of Rapid Start and 1 ML of KLN hurt the Tea and the Myco life mixed in the same jug?
Better idea, read the Recylced Organic Living Soil thread and make your own organic version.

got some info from a very knowledgeable person says its ok so for you all that want to pump up the hormones on the roots go for it
I'd really like to know who your very knowledgable person is, and how they connsider this to be ok for organics?

bump...just wanted to double check that it is ok to use this in organics ?

I have used Azos and mycorrhizae during transplants and so far have not been blown away....The Rapid Start has blown up plants on me big time.

The material data sheet is a little scary....Not supposed to get it on your skin, etc...Does this mean it can get transmitted through the plant, and into your smoke ? Or, am I way off base here ?

material data sheet :

http://generalhydroponics.com/site/gh/docs/prod_msds/RapidStart.pdf
There's not a chance in hell this stuff would come anywhere near my organic grow.

But that's just my 2¢,
P-
 

toomp

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I'd really like to know who your very knowledgable person is, and how they connsider this to be ok for organics?
Biowar, the question was if it will kill the life. It will not, it appears they can handle a bit more then we think. Im done with organics any how at this point.
 

Pattahabi

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Biowar, the question was if it will kill the life. It will not, it appears they can handle a bit more then we think. Im done with organics any how at this point.
It's unfortunate you're done with organics. I would be interested on what information @biowar made his conclusion that these will not hurt microbes?

P-
 

toomp

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It's unfortunate you're done with organics. I would be interested on what information @biowar made his conclusion that these will not hurt microbes?

P-
not sure, but if I were to ask anybody anything about that micro life it will be him.
He has studied it extensively apparently, I came across him searching for the best bacto/fungi/endo ect... It was Voodoo, Myco or them and his was stacked better and was a bonus that I found out he was a community member
 

Pattahabi

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not sure, but if I were to ask anybody anything about that micro life it will be him.
He has studied it extensively apparently, I came across him searching for the best bacto/fungi/endo ect... It was Voodoo, Myco or them and his was stacked better and was a bonus that I found out he was a community member
You're not talking about Capulator of OGbiowar are you?
 

hyroot

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not sure, but if I were to ask anybody anything about that micro life it will be him.
He has studied it extensively apparently, I came across him searching for the best bacto/fungi/endo ect... It was Voodoo, Myco or them and his was stacked better and was a bonus that I found out he was a community member


Rapid start is not organic at all. its all chemical. Chems kill the microherd.



http://oda.state.or.us/dbs/heavy_metal/detail.lasso?-op=eq&product_id=27577



Product Name: 1-0.5-1 Rapid Start Rooting Enhancer (w/No Fe)
OMRI Listed: No WSDA Organic Program Listed: No CDFA Listed OIM: No
Product Status Brand Name Waste Derived Pesticide
Registered General Hydroponics No No
Registrant: GH INC - SEBASTOPOL, CA (707) 824-9376
Heavy Metals (in Parts Per Million)
Arsenic: 0.5 Cadmium: 0.1 Mercury: 0.05 Lead: 1.2 Nickel: 0.2
Guaranteed Analysis
Total Nitrogen: 1% Avail. Phosphate: 0.5% Sol. Potash: 1%
Calcium: Magnesium: Sulfur:
Boron:
Chlorine: Cobalt:
Copper:
Iron: Manganese:
Molybdenum:
0.001% Sodium: Zinc:
 
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