will my lights penetrate 3 foot tall clones?

spokehead88

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I have 13 of them, 5 blue dream, 4 tahoe og, 4 big,bud.
all under 2200 watts of hps.
there in day 19 of flower, my question is, is there enough light peneitration?
also would anyone know what I could yield, harvest is around the corner and this is just my second grow... anyways any feedback will be appreciated.
 

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shahomy

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Is that first pic all 13 plants? looks real tight What size room? I doubt you`ll get good penetration 3ft down through that tight canopy...bud will grow, but it will be micro and immature...= junk.
I`ve gotten 5- 8oz per plant in a 7.5x8 room with 12 plants and 2000watts hps consistantly... now i`ve got 4000 watts hps in same room and yield is now 8-12oz per plant...
 
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shahomy said:
Is that first pic all 13 plants? looks real tight What size room? I doubt you`ll get good penetration 3ft down through that tight canopy...bud will grow, but it will be micro and immature...= junk.
I`ve gotten 5- 8oz per plant in a 7.5x8 room with 12 plants and 2000watts hps consistantly... now i`ve got 4000 watts hps in same room and yield is now 8-12oz per plant...
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yes the pic with the jungle of plants is with all 13 of them, and my grow room dimentions are simillar to yours, its approx L 7.75-W 3.75- H 7.75
They are all pretty much 3 feet tall, the totes I used for a potting container sit a bit higher from the ground, so those stick up a bit.
I'm planning on LST the he'll out of the colas, for better light penitration,I guess that's pretty much all I can do at this point, as I'm not sure what else I can do to train these girls in flower besides greater light penetration.that's sweet tough brotha, I tought my 2200watts was a big kahuna. wish I hade the resources to accomplish that. I'm really hopping to get weight.
 
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shahomy said:
Is that first pic all 13 plants? looks real tight What size room? I doubt you`ll get good penetration 3ft down through that tight canopy...bud will grow, but it will be micro and immature...= junk.
I`ve gotten 5- 8oz per plant in a 7.5x8 room with 12 plants and 2000watts hps consistantly... now i`ve got 4000 watts hps in same room and yield is now 8-12oz per plant...
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here's a link of a video I took the other morning:
Do you think if I tie down colas low that I could yield better? sorry for asking so much, not trying to bug, just would like the input. I have more experience in the mycology field. I can pasturize n steralize all my own substrates according to procedures... but mmj is a different mistress.
 

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shahomy

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" my grow room dimentions are simillar to yours, its approx L 7.75-W 3.75- H 7.75"
Mines actually double that size, so you squeezed in like tuna LOL,,,but it looks real good so far...nice full looking canopy
"Do you think if I tie down colas low that I could yield better?"
Thats all i ever do... and topping/fimm in veg, also i veg 6 weeks. If you main cola is 8-12" inches above the rest, them lower buds wont get the same light...tie`em down...sativas seem to bend easier... i don`t bother with indicas usually.
As for your yield need more info - nute line, temps, humidity...still i would guess atleast 4-5oz per plant
also, hope you got some fans moving air around...don`t want mold
good luck
 
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nk14zp said:
Oh I forgot. Yield bout a pound.
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if I yielded a pound I would cry... I seriouslly doubt I will get a pound, my last grow (girl scout cookies- terrible yielder most would say) I got abt a half pound dry and that was in 3 gallon buckets vegged for 4 weeks with less than optimal growing conditions humidity temps.., in ffof under a 1k watt light... if I can't get 3 lbs from this set up, I'm either expecting wayyy to much or I just don't know anything abt mmj cultivating... witch I doubt..
I guess Bob Marley said it, Time will tell..
 
spokehead88

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shahomy said:
" my grow room dimentions are simillar to yours, its approx L 7.75-W 3.75- H 7.75"
Mines actually double that size, so you squeezed in like tuna LOL,,,but it looks real good so far...nice full looking canopy
"Do you think if I tie down colas low that I could yield better?"
Thats all i ever do... and topping/fimm in veg, also i veg 6 weeks. If you main cola is 8-12" inches above the rest, them lower buds wont get the same light...tie`em down...sativas seem to bend easier... i don`t bother with indicas usually.
As for your yield need more info - nute line, temps, humidity...still i would guess atleast 4-5oz per plant
also, hope you got some fans moving air around...don`t want mold
good luck
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I've been known for the squeeze lol
I'm ganna work on lst them branches, thanks for all the constructive critisicim, your input was spot on I think. next time I will veg less in a space this small. yes, I have 2 6 inch inline connected too 2 carbon big carbon filters, also a 8 inch booster placed at the bottom in the middle of grow room it's a 400cfm rated fan,
, and a 16 inch ocilating fan,I have another 12 inch fan I plan on throwing back in there, as well as a 6500 but ac running full at day n half at night.
these are in 7 gallon grow bags, with 5 plants in 3 66 ounce totes,
grown in ffof with added perlite.
humidity fluctuates from 45 to 60
I plan on running a.c. a bit more to controll humidity. n temps are always around 20c to 26 c.
i will focus on humidity n lst collas throughout this grow.
thanks for the info boss.
ohh ya I'm using jungle juice 3 part formula. as well as some bud xl, top shooter, shooting powder multi-en from H N G line up.
 
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spokehead88

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nk14zp said:
Next time less plants will get you the same yield as this grow.
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next time I plan on vegging less, its not so much abt how many plant I got but how long I veg, style of training, n space limitations.
if I vegged 2-3 weeks less I'm sure space wouldent be this biggest issue ,trial n error I guess.. plus these aren't from seed and I'm not wanting to hermi these girls by vegging longer with less quantities.
 
mr sunshine

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spokehead88 said:
if I yielded a pound I would cry... I seriouslly doubt I will get a pound, my last grow (girl scout cookies- terrible yielder most would say) I got abt a half pound dry and that was in 3 gallon buckets vegged for 4 weeks with less than optimal growing conditions humidity temps.., in ffof under a 1k watt light... if I can't get 3 lbs from this set up, I'm either expecting wayyy to much or I just don't know anything abt mmj cultivating... witch I doubt..
I guess Bob Marley said it, Time will tell..
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The most you've ever got was 8 ounces off 1light? I wouldn't put my money on you getting 3 lbs.. shit, if you get 2 lbs you already blew your best yield ever out of the water. most decent growers pull 1 pound each light.. I would aim for that. If you can get 1 and a half each your a really good experienced grower.
 
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mr sunshine said:
The most you've ever got was 8 ounces off 1light? I wouldn't put my money on you getting 3 lbs.. shit, if you get 2 lbs you already blew your best yield ever out of the water. most decent growers pull 1 pound each light.. I would aim for that. If you can get 1 and a half each your a really good experienced grower.
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ya 8 zips with one light, keeping in mind that was my nubiest run ever, I was dealing with nute defficancy, humidity, temp issues, aphids, n mites not to mention I never trained any of my girls on my last grow,the tallest one was 32 inches with 2 main colas on most, diddent know you could train them, it was a wild ride tbh. now since then, I've read and read as much as possible... I have better everything this time around.. Its understandable to get better results as the time goes by.. but with this setup just outperforming all my previous grows, as well as countless training I'm sure I will yield decent and perhaps maybe even be granted a experienced cultivaters yield, I will put pics up at harvest.
I've seen ppl get around 3 lbs from 2 600watts dry.
 
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spokehead88 said:
ya 8 zips with one light, keeping in mind that was my nubiest run ever, I was dealing with nute defficancy, humidity, temp issues, aphids, n mites not to mention I never trained any of my girls on my last grow,the tallest one was 32 inches with 2 main colas on most, diddent know you could train them, it was a wild ride tbh. now since then, I've read and read as much as possible... I have better everything this time around.. Its understandable to get better results as the time goes by.. but with this setup just outperforming all my previous grows, as well as countless training I'm sure I will yield decent and perhaps maybe even be granted a experienced cultivaters yield, I will put pics up at harvest.
I've seen ppl get around 3 lbs from 2 600watts dry.
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It's not impossible, Good luck.
 
mr sunshine

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spokehead88 said:
I guess I should of read your data from your websites, since you are the master of cultivating..I'm not stating I will get this yield, just a hopefull tought. A girl can dream right? either way I got what I needed from this post, so thanks anyways.
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It's very possible. You'll Get It Sooner Or later.
 
Yodaweed

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I would trim under that canopy with plants that close together anything under there gonna run a high risk of getting mold because of lack of light.
 
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