watchhowIdoit
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Better late than never...a good thread on the ins and outs of P... https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/158144-never-ending-abuse-phosphorous-bloom.html
Will Fox Farm Grow Big KILL mycos?
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watchhowIdoit
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Salts are salts. Some sources labeled organic. Some not. NPK is NPK. A balanced diet is a balanced diet...and a balanced diet starts at the bottom of the pot and ends up showing its final colors at the top of the plant. All inclusive inbetween...
Dabestintheworld69
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Hey sorry bout just posting a question on yours but I'm not sure how to start a new one .how can I hook up two computer fans to my grow box ?
Kingrow1
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I seem to get very little salt build up with biobizz and other organic ferts, think i'll stick with these and very hard to burn a plant, i dont even know if i need to flush in organics but i'll work that out at a later date.
I am shocked to learn that natural ferts are just as good but only more controllable.
As for the mycos, i been adding them to the soil just under my transplanted jiffy cube seedlings. That way the funghi starts growing as the root dose, i was considering a seed drench though as the stuff here cost an arm and a leg and dosent go far. Peace
I am shocked to learn that natural ferts are just as good but only more controllable.
As for the mycos, i been adding them to the soil just under my transplanted jiffy cube seedlings. That way the funghi starts growing as the root dose, i was considering a seed drench though as the stuff here cost an arm and a leg and dosent go far. Peace
Dabestintheworld69
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Someone wanna help me out??or tell me how to post a new thread
max316420
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I posted a video about this and people were calling me crazy
Kingrow1
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As for the salt build up i always get one third runoff when i water, figured this would be easier than flushing and also heard with organic ferts i shouldnt need to flush but i just go off what the plants want, never have any pH issues for a while now either, just good growth for most of the grow.
So i added mycos to a few small plants a few days ago, one seedling i put a neat table spoon of when i transplanted so the roots basically went straight into the soil and roots would grow in this part first starting all the mycos off growing, hopefully i wouldnr need any more applications but the bottle says after first 50ml per litre initial soaking add 2ml per litre to all other water and feeds.
The others just got a small drenching of the 50ml per litre round there roots. I believe it is the roots your mainly aiming for the mycos to come into contact so they can start multiplying??? One of the plants has shot off but the seedling is still too small to judge growth, recomends it can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks for colonies to establish. Hopefully starting the seedlings fresh roots of straight into it will speed things up.
As for phosphorous my plants dont get too much anyway, i dont boost much till end of flowering so should be cool here as well. Peace
So i added mycos to a few small plants a few days ago, one seedling i put a neat table spoon of when i transplanted so the roots basically went straight into the soil and roots would grow in this part first starting all the mycos off growing, hopefully i wouldnr need any more applications but the bottle says after first 50ml per litre initial soaking add 2ml per litre to all other water and feeds.
The others just got a small drenching of the 50ml per litre round there roots. I believe it is the roots your mainly aiming for the mycos to come into contact so they can start multiplying??? One of the plants has shot off but the seedling is still too small to judge growth, recomends it can take anywhere from a few days to a few weeks for colonies to establish. Hopefully starting the seedlings fresh roots of straight into it will speed things up.
As for phosphorous my plants dont get too much anyway, i dont boost much till end of flowering so should be cool here as well. Peace
Kingrow1
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i will but cant get foxfarms over here, my vitalink seems to be good but exspensive. Seems to want big doses to innoculate the soil, about 17 us dollars will do 8 small pots at 50ml a litre.
It will be a good experiment but i never paid so much for a grow product before, if i can keep it to small doses and just innoculate the seedlings in very small amounts and pots it will be good but other than that i will look at the others and see if any are better and cheaper. Will have to wait longer for results although one small plant has shown very good growth so maybe it is this.
I read a lot of articles and threads on them, seem good just need to get them into your root zone and soil early on in the grow to see max benifit. How are yours looking at the moment, dose it show noticable growth or like it is working? Peace
It will be a good experiment but i never paid so much for a grow product before, if i can keep it to small doses and just innoculate the seedlings in very small amounts and pots it will be good but other than that i will look at the others and see if any are better and cheaper. Will have to wait longer for results although one small plant has shown very good growth so maybe it is this.
I read a lot of articles and threads on them, seem good just need to get them into your root zone and soil early on in the grow to see max benifit. How are yours looking at the moment, dose it show noticable growth or like it is working? Peace
max316420
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I can really see a difference, I'm really liking this stuff... Its crazy but the resin is showing up so much faster I myself almost don't believe it lol If you think the stuff you bought was expensive check out the price for voodoo juice... now that's some expensive shit
Try Fungi Perfecti for myco's. www.fungi.com ~$8 delivered to your door.
I use the MycoGrow Soluble. Even cheaper is a place called 'Concentrates'. They have it for a bit over $10/lb.
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I use the MycoGrow Soluble. Even cheaper is a place called 'Concentrates'. They have it for a bit over $10/lb.
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Most of these obscenely expensive myco products are just re packaged and re labeled bulk buys from the cheaper places, sort of.
There are only a few producers (?) of mycorrhizae, it's not done in a lab, even though that's hinted at. It only grows on plant roots, so fields of whatever plants are needed, the plants and roots harvested and then whatever process to seperate the mycos from the roots and bulk packaged.
I grow my own using Alliums (Onions, garlic, shallots etc.). Mycos really love the Allium family and I grow my own garlic, so it works out real well. At harvest, I just leave the roots in the mix, reamend, and mix it 50/50 with fresh mix.
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There are only a few producers (?) of mycorrhizae, it's not done in a lab, even though that's hinted at. It only grows on plant roots, so fields of whatever plants are needed, the plants and roots harvested and then whatever process to seperate the mycos from the roots and bulk packaged.
I grow my own using Alliums (Onions, garlic, shallots etc.). Mycos really love the Allium family and I grow my own garlic, so it works out real well. At harvest, I just leave the roots in the mix, reamend, and mix it 50/50 with fresh mix.
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watchhowIdoit
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Or if you are the outdoors sort next time your hiking through the woods, one that has pretty much undisturbed forrest floor, like a good 4-6 inches of decomposing matter. Gently scrape away the surface and find the layer of surface roots and that nice white, fuzzy growth. Thats the good stuff, loaded with lots of beneficials, fungi and bacteria.
And its free......
And its free......
Kingrow1
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Yep i seen voodo juice and a few other products that would just make my whole grow uneconomical, is that sensi's line of rip off crazy priced products!lol!
I have heard of the onions being good for myco cultivation and also a compost or composted manure tea, this seems the cheapest and best root but not really practicle for me indoors. Most products seem to tout the same info and benificials, some just do the mycos, mine got trichroderma and other stuff in, benificial bacteria etc etc
The main thing is that max reports good results, must say one of my plants is having really good growth rates and looking a nicer shade of green than the others after inocculation.
As for bringing outdoor stuff indoors i have never done this but i feel that i could if i new i wouldnt be adding any bad stuff to my indoor soil, would be my only worry and as long as i knew it was a cannabis specific funghi i would spend the time saving a few pounds as it seems like an altogether more fun idea and probably more rewarding to the plants. Peace
I have heard of the onions being good for myco cultivation and also a compost or composted manure tea, this seems the cheapest and best root but not really practicle for me indoors. Most products seem to tout the same info and benificials, some just do the mycos, mine got trichroderma and other stuff in, benificial bacteria etc etc
The main thing is that max reports good results, must say one of my plants is having really good growth rates and looking a nicer shade of green than the others after inocculation.
As for bringing outdoor stuff indoors i have never done this but i feel that i could if i new i wouldnt be adding any bad stuff to my indoor soil, would be my only worry and as long as i knew it was a cannabis specific funghi i would spend the time saving a few pounds as it seems like an altogether more fun idea and probably more rewarding to the plants. Peace
Kingrow1
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I did read that most species are good for marijuana, although different ones do different things, some spread out and some are more localised, some seek out roots and some stay put till roots reach them.
There seems so much to them i would see how it would be overhyped and marketed as they are. I found i would have to take a degree on funghi just to seperate the bs so i went no futher and dont want to!lol!
Makes you wonder why they pack mine with so many strains of funghi and bacteria, if they knew that much theyd just culture the right one and sell that to me as one product. Word of mouth is worth more than marketing in this area of growing.
So still is it worth applying just a small amount to the roots of a freshly transplanted seedling before going into the soil and around the soil it will grow roots through first rather than an exspensive innoculation of the whole soil in the pot? Peace
What I use is full of different ones also, fungi and bacteria. Guess it's easier to cover all the bases.
I inoculate the roots of clones just before transplanting into soil. Uses much less and you know that the roots have come into contact with it. Doing a soil drench is kinda wasteful IMO.
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I inoculate the roots of clones just before transplanting into soil. Uses much less and you know that the roots have come into contact with it. Doing a soil drench is kinda wasteful IMO.
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