Will Florida Pass at Least Medical Marijuana Laws in 2012?
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cassinfo
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I'm sorry for you pain james. If the MJ florida law pass keep me in mind. I will help you out most for sure!!
southern homegrower
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Be careful brother I have been growing outdoors since I was 12 or 13 in my early 40s now. grew indoors for 1 year and got busted feb 2010. was not selling .
Cali chronic
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Why not get actively involved with Legalization? You are going to wish you had someday. Laws are passed by going thru the hard work of campaigning. The magic wand is gone. Every chance I get I post this video to educate http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYn5wr6WilU I do this on yahoo comments and such.
I would recommend campaigning in front of wall marts. supermarkets etc Like we did in California.Post and educate. Teach your parents and others so they can be informed. Sitting around and complaining does nothing but allow you to wallow in the negative. I am moving there as a stepping stone for myself as I am looking to leave this crazy country. However while in Florida I will do my best to educate and campaign. How about you? Campaigner or wallower? Head over the cancer wards sit in the waiting rooms wear a shirt that says: Cancer battle? Have you looked into Cannabis? Peoples curiosity will get them talking, trust me. Florida was a confederate state, don't tell me they are conservative. X-dropping Coke snorting Monkees!
I would recommend campaigning in front of wall marts. supermarkets etc Like we did in California.Post and educate. Teach your parents and others so they can be informed. Sitting around and complaining does nothing but allow you to wallow in the negative. I am moving there as a stepping stone for myself as I am looking to leave this crazy country. However while in Florida I will do my best to educate and campaign. How about you? Campaigner or wallower? Head over the cancer wards sit in the waiting rooms wear a shirt that says: Cancer battle? Have you looked into Cannabis? Peoples curiosity will get them talking, trust me. Florida was a confederate state, don't tell me they are conservative. X-dropping Coke snorting Monkees!
thanks but no danks
Active Member
because all the retired elderly people have nothing to do but sit around and grow and smoke pot all day xDI've seen several recent documentaries that said that Florida has more indoor grows than any other state. Kinda strange for a state with such intolerant cannabis laws.
Cali chronic
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So I donated to MPP and this is the letter I get from the Director
Quote:
Even though national opinion polling shows that more than 80 million American adults believe that marijuana should be made "legal" for adult use, only
30,000
people have ever donated to MPP. Thank you so much for being one of the few with the initiative, foresight, and personal commitment to actually do something about our country's failed marijuana policies. Your donation will help fund our efforts to end marijuana prohibition. When — not if — the battle is won, it will be because of the financial support from members like you.
Once again, thank you for your gift.
Sincerely,
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Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
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Do you really want to do anything about it? If so here is your help, now help them DONATE!!!!
Quote:
Even though national opinion polling shows that more than 80 million American adults believe that marijuana should be made "legal" for adult use, only
30,000
people have ever donated to MPP. Thank you so much for being one of the few with the initiative, foresight, and personal commitment to actually do something about our country's failed marijuana policies. Your donation will help fund our efforts to end marijuana prohibition. When — not if — the battle is won, it will be because of the financial support from members like you.
Once again, thank you for your gift.
Sincerely,
<img alt="">
Rob Kampia
Executive Director
Marijuana Policy Project
Unquote
Do you really want to do anything about it? If so here is your help, now help them DONATE!!!!
Farfenugen
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You have to remember this:
The "STATE" does not care about the well being of its citizens. In the eyes of the "STATE" the citizens are only there to provide the necessary funding to pass its laws, be they outdated or unnecessary. The "STATE" sees the citizen as an expendable unit, easily replaced.
bla bla bla... legalization isn't going to happen anytime soon. Cancer is a machine, and an industry. It's an unforgiving statement, but it's true.
The "STATE" does not care about the well being of its citizens. In the eyes of the "STATE" the citizens are only there to provide the necessary funding to pass its laws, be they outdated or unnecessary. The "STATE" sees the citizen as an expendable unit, easily replaced.
bla bla bla... legalization isn't going to happen anytime soon. Cancer is a machine, and an industry. It's an unforgiving statement, but it's true.
There's too many pill mills in FL to ever allow MJ to be legal or even decriminalized. Those pill mills fund the politicians in FL, and MJ does not. It's all about THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. Gov. Scott is too deep in the pharm's pockets to ever allow something like this to happen.
That's not to mention all the elderly that are stuck in their ways and they are the only one's who ever vote! If anything will ever happen, it will be up to the younger crowd, but 18-35 don't vote, it's just a sad fact.
That's not to mention all the elderly that are stuck in their ways and they are the only one's who ever vote! If anything will ever happen, it will be up to the younger crowd, but 18-35 don't vote, it's just a sad fact.
luzinterna
Member
So if in Florida you cannot grow, what is this law about then?
http://www.justiceflorida.com/2008/08/articles/drug-laws/floridas-new-marijuana-grow-house-law/
Florida's New Marijuana Grow House Law
POSTED ON AUGUST 14, 2008 BY RON CHAPMAN
During the last few years, I have represented several clients in both State and Federal Court who have been charged with growing marijuana plants in their homes. Therefore, I was particularly interested to learn that on July 1, 2008 a new law went into effect in Florida called the Marijuana Grow House Eradication Act. The following is a news article about that Act:
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Attorney General Bill McCollum announced Tuesday that theMarijuana Grow House Eradication Act has been signed into law, giving Floridas prosecutors and law enforcement essential tools to combat for-profit growers of marijuana.
The New Law
The new law, sponsored by Senator Steve Oelrich (R-Gainesville) and Representative Nick Thompson (R-Ft. Myers), passed as House Bill 173 during the 2008 Legislative Session and was signed into law by Governor Charlie Crist Tuesday. The bill was developed because of the increasing number of grow houses operating in the state and violent crime which tend to be associated with these operations.
Grow houses are not only furthering this dangerous drug trade within our state, they are bringing violent crime into our neighborhoods, said Attorney General McCollum. This new law will help protect our families and communities.
The new law makes it a second-degree felony to grow 25 or more plants, targeting for-profit growers who exploit Floridas previous threshold of 300 plants. The law will also make it a third-degree felony to own a house for the purpose of cultivating, packaging and distributing marijuana and a first-degree felony to grow 25 or more plants in a home with children present.
Marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug in America and we must take a stand against the for-profit growers who were previously exploiting higher thresholds, said Sen. Oelrich. By lowering the number of plants necessary for criminal charges, weve given Floridas authorities valuable tools in the fight against these criminal operations.
Threat of grow houses
"Grow houses have become a very real threat to the safety and security in too many Florida communities," said Representative Thompson. "Floridians who use grow houses to traffic drugs belong in prison. This law sends the message loud and clear that if you grow, you go. I am grateful to Attorney General Bill McCollum for his support and Governor Crist for signing this bill into law."
Statistics on number of grow houses
Recent statistics reveal the alarming increase in the number of grow houses being maintained in Florida as well as the ever-developing levels of sophistication of grow house operations. Marijuana grow houses primarily specializing in hydroponic marijuana have been detected in more than 40 of Floridas 67 counties and within the past few months, cooperative efforts by law enforcement statewide have taken down more than 140 houses and seized more than $41.6 million worth of marijuana.
Recent Cases
Another recent case out of Palm Beach County brought charges against 29 people who were part of a drug trafficking ring which operated and maintained 25 marijuana grow houses throughout Palm Beach County and one in Miami-Dade County.
Other important aspects of the law will provide substantial benefits to Floridas law enforcement community. Previously, law enforcement around the state were required to store cumbersome grow house equipment in order to preserve it as evidence.
To address this growing storage burden, the new law allows a photograph or video recording of equipment used in the cultivation of a marijuana plant to be considered as evidence in the prosecution of the crime. The law will also allow law enforcement to destroy grow house equipment upon the completion of all investigations and provides immunity from any civil liability to law enforcement for the destruction of the grow house equipment.
Until 2001, law enforcement agents gathered evidence about grow houses by using what are called thermal imaging devices. Such devices were used by law enforcement to scan buildings in order to determine if heat emanations coming from the buildings were consistent with high intensity lamps often used by marijuana growers. However, in 2001 in the case ofKyllo v. United States, the United States Supreme Court ruled that when the Government uses a device (such as a thermal imaging device) that is not in general public use to explore details of a private home that would previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion, the surveillance is a Fourth Amendment search and is presumptively unreasonable without a warrant.
Because of the decision reached in Kyllo, law enforcement agents may no longer use thermal imaging devices when investigating possible grow houses.
http://www.justiceflorida.com/2008/08/articles/drug-laws/floridas-new-marijuana-grow-house-law/
Florida's New Marijuana Grow House Law
POSTED ON AUGUST 14, 2008 BY RON CHAPMAN
During the last few years, I have represented several clients in both State and Federal Court who have been charged with growing marijuana plants in their homes. Therefore, I was particularly interested to learn that on July 1, 2008 a new law went into effect in Florida called the Marijuana Grow House Eradication Act. The following is a news article about that Act:
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- Attorney General Bill McCollum announced Tuesday that theMarijuana Grow House Eradication Act has been signed into law, giving Floridas prosecutors and law enforcement essential tools to combat for-profit growers of marijuana.
The New Law
The new law, sponsored by Senator Steve Oelrich (R-Gainesville) and Representative Nick Thompson (R-Ft. Myers), passed as House Bill 173 during the 2008 Legislative Session and was signed into law by Governor Charlie Crist Tuesday. The bill was developed because of the increasing number of grow houses operating in the state and violent crime which tend to be associated with these operations.
Grow houses are not only furthering this dangerous drug trade within our state, they are bringing violent crime into our neighborhoods, said Attorney General McCollum. This new law will help protect our families and communities.
The new law makes it a second-degree felony to grow 25 or more plants, targeting for-profit growers who exploit Floridas previous threshold of 300 plants. The law will also make it a third-degree felony to own a house for the purpose of cultivating, packaging and distributing marijuana and a first-degree felony to grow 25 or more plants in a home with children present.
Marijuana is the most commonly used illegal drug in America and we must take a stand against the for-profit growers who were previously exploiting higher thresholds, said Sen. Oelrich. By lowering the number of plants necessary for criminal charges, weve given Floridas authorities valuable tools in the fight against these criminal operations.
Threat of grow houses
"Grow houses have become a very real threat to the safety and security in too many Florida communities," said Representative Thompson. "Floridians who use grow houses to traffic drugs belong in prison. This law sends the message loud and clear that if you grow, you go. I am grateful to Attorney General Bill McCollum for his support and Governor Crist for signing this bill into law."
Statistics on number of grow houses
Recent statistics reveal the alarming increase in the number of grow houses being maintained in Florida as well as the ever-developing levels of sophistication of grow house operations. Marijuana grow houses primarily specializing in hydroponic marijuana have been detected in more than 40 of Floridas 67 counties and within the past few months, cooperative efforts by law enforcement statewide have taken down more than 140 houses and seized more than $41.6 million worth of marijuana.
Recent Cases
Another recent case out of Palm Beach County brought charges against 29 people who were part of a drug trafficking ring which operated and maintained 25 marijuana grow houses throughout Palm Beach County and one in Miami-Dade County.
Other important aspects of the law will provide substantial benefits to Floridas law enforcement community. Previously, law enforcement around the state were required to store cumbersome grow house equipment in order to preserve it as evidence.
To address this growing storage burden, the new law allows a photograph or video recording of equipment used in the cultivation of a marijuana plant to be considered as evidence in the prosecution of the crime. The law will also allow law enforcement to destroy grow house equipment upon the completion of all investigations and provides immunity from any civil liability to law enforcement for the destruction of the grow house equipment.
Until 2001, law enforcement agents gathered evidence about grow houses by using what are called thermal imaging devices. Such devices were used by law enforcement to scan buildings in order to determine if heat emanations coming from the buildings were consistent with high intensity lamps often used by marijuana growers. However, in 2001 in the case ofKyllo v. United States, the United States Supreme Court ruled that when the Government uses a device (such as a thermal imaging device) that is not in general public use to explore details of a private home that would previously have been unknowable without physical intrusion, the surveillance is a Fourth Amendment search and is presumptively unreasonable without a warrant.
Because of the decision reached in Kyllo, law enforcement agents may no longer use thermal imaging devices when investigating possible grow houses.
Cali chronic
Well-Known Member
Unknown Luzintera, sounds like they (the religious brainwashds Zealots) are shoring up laws. I do not know. But for those above who have conceded their loss of a State, You are the reason America is crashing. You quit before you have even fought or began to fight.
Shame on you!
Shame on you!
luzinterna
Member
Come on floridians spread the word. Valid signatures needed: 676,811 by 2/1/2012
and florida has 18,537,969 residents
http://www.pufmm.org
and florida has 18,537,969 residents
http://www.pufmm.org
ssj4jonathan
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Florida sucks... bunch of old geezers and red necks and hicks live there. Nowadays, all the youth are becoming pill poppers since there is no federal regulation of pharmacies, go to miami and you'll find 8 dollar blue boys being sold on every corner. Florida would rather profit from pills than nature... shit wont change till the USA govt. takes weed off the sched 1 list... good luck guys you're fighting an uphill battle. Only if RON PAUL would get elected as president! we would make USA money backed by gold, would takes off lots of drugs from the sched lists.... how great would this country be then...
Nice Ol Bud
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Hell yea, down here you find blues everywhere.
I love how they pass laws without telling anyone until after the fact. Then they say things like, "Grow houses are not only furthering this dangerous drug trade within our state, they are bringing violent crime into our neighborhoods"
Charlie Crist is a lying, hypocritical scumbag. Do something about all the illegal prescription drugs in Florida Chuck!!! Oh, that's right. You're not on the pot growers pay roll. I see.....
@ssj4jonathan - You are absolutely right. You wouldn't believe how many people are addicted to oxycodone in Florida. But clearly marijuana is the problem!
Charlie Crist is a lying, hypocritical scumbag. Do something about all the illegal prescription drugs in Florida Chuck!!! Oh, that's right. You're not on the pot growers pay roll. I see.....
@ssj4jonathan - You are absolutely right. You wouldn't believe how many people are addicted to oxycodone in Florida. But clearly marijuana is the problem!
Cali chronic
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i just got back from Florida and was in Panama City, I guy comes up to me and my girl and says:" Where are these pills I hear about down here?" I say:"Pills? Son you dont want pills they will kill you" He says: "This place is supposed to be the Pill Capital of the world." I say: "Forget Pills. Smoke weed it is better for you, I am from Cali and that is how we roll." He says: "I already got some Purple Kush, I want or need pills."
Too funny how addicting pills are. My Lil' Brother lives down in Pompano area and since he is a gun nut he knows some of the Law enforcement and has had done a few snorts of the powder with them and they state that they wish Pot was legal and they are tired of dealing with such a minor boy offense in their eyes. The support is there you need to get organized.
Too funny how addicting pills are. My Lil' Brother lives down in Pompano area and since he is a gun nut he knows some of the Law enforcement and has had done a few snorts of the powder with them and they state that they wish Pot was legal and they are tired of dealing with such a minor boy offense in their eyes. The support is there you need to get organized.
I believe they tried that already. Remember the prohibition erai think they should bun alcohol and cigarettes for just 1 month and legalize cannabis to see the results - "Everyone happy , growing and noone dies
Well with out the legalization of weed of course, But back during that time it pretty much was legal.
southern homegrower
Well-Known Member
cops told me the same thing as they took me to jail
Sara Saw It
Active Member
All marijuana smokers should just walk out their front doors and light up a joint. What's anyone gonna do then? Why can't we just unite and change the system?
In the more metropolitan areas like Miami and some parts of Tampa and Orlando but Ja, Gainesville, Ocala, Tallahasseand the rest of the pan handle are pretty set in their elected sheffif is hard core anti drug and weed especially and its because people under 30dont understand then need to vote in local elections the majority of voters in these areas are senior citezens.
Its sad but even under these conditions I'm starting a grow soon, just have some prep to do over the next couple of months