Why the hell are people against free health care!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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fellowes
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40 bucks!!! I only got 10 WTF LOL
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Keenly
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dude if i cant understand what your trying to say no its not self explanitory
i thought we were on the same side of the issue here which is why i want you to calmy, rationally, and legibly state what your trying to say so i can understand where you are coming from
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Johnny, I think the bigger issue is progression. The old way doesn't work. It hasn't worked. It wont work any longer. Conservatives are scared of change, because it's new, it's uncertain territory, there's a chance we might fail.. What the younger generation wants, my generation, is equality, happiness, etc. We're tired of seeing the rich get richer while the poor and middle class hold the load. By no means am I for total socialism or complete government control, I'm actually a proponent of capitalism and small, limited government. I just see where the government screws with all of us seems to be in the poor and middle class, the system is shifting towards poking and proding the upper class more and giving the lower classes more power, because there are more of us. They're rich which makes them powerful, but we're many, which makes us powerful. That is the downfall in the corruption within our system, it never accounted for the number of poor people willing to fight back.
You also mentioned an interesting little window of information - "I worked my ass off all my life and people I know who abuse the system are on par with me" - so what? Does that make you feel like a failure or something? Why do you base your success off of the success of others?
You also mentioned an interesting little window of information - "I worked my ass off all my life and people I know who abuse the system are on par with me" - so what? Does that make you feel like a failure or something? Why do you base your success off of the success of others?
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Keenly
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oh really? a 1000 person party
you must have so many friends and be such a cool guy
yeah.......
right
you must have so many friends and be such a cool guy
yeah.......
right
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Keenly
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sorry i dont hang out with people who go crazy on the internet
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Keenly
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if you would pawn your friends, they arent your friends....
nice insult.
FlyLikeAnEagle
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I asked for a reputable link and the best you can do is some angelfire page full of right wing links? You may as well have linked to some 13 year old kids myspace page. Christ no wonder you're so ill informed.
hanimmal
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Keenly I appreciate how you feel with the info that you have, but the problem is it is not right. And at best they take a small grain of truth and stratch the shit out of it until it is so distorted that it is not even close to the truth.
Government did not take over the car industry. They did fire the CEO, but once GM went through their bankruptcy they went back to being a private company. Ford did not need the help like the other two that were going to have to go through bankruptcy so the government never has bothered them. And again they may have regulations but in noway is that a take over. If you wanted to see a take over, you should rent Gung-ho http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091159/.
This insurance program is not a take over of the health care system. It does nothing to the doctors care for their patients, it doesn't stop the insurance companies from continuing their business, or even coming up with their own insurance plans. It just says that they are going to have to meet guidelines like you cannot dump patients when they get sick.
They republicans made this up. They ignored the rest of that section that said it is not loans to foreign companies but was talking about the companies that move after they get the loans but before it is paid off. And Boehner said something along the lines of "So your admitting here that this is going to lose us jobs". It is just a soundbite that takes something completely out of context.
I just want to help you get the real information man. They are tricking you into a panic attack and there is no reason for it.
Government did not 'take over' the banks that did not file for bankruptcy. They may have some new regulations, but that is a far cry from a take over. They still have far less restrictions than they had in the 90's.
Government did not take over the car industry. They did fire the CEO, but once GM went through their bankruptcy they went back to being a private company. Ford did not need the help like the other two that were going to have to go through bankruptcy so the government never has bothered them. And again they may have regulations but in noway is that a take over. If you wanted to see a take over, you should rent Gung-ho http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091159/.
This insurance program is not a take over of the health care system. It does nothing to the doctors care for their patients, it doesn't stop the insurance companies from continuing their business, or even coming up with their own insurance plans. It just says that they are going to have to meet guidelines like you cannot dump patients when they get sick.
You are getting this from that Boehner video I think. He was in a filibuster and read an obscure line about overseas companies and loans.
They republicans made this up. They ignored the rest of that section that said it is not loans to foreign companies but was talking about the companies that move after they get the loans but before it is paid off. And Boehner said something along the lines of "So your admitting here that this is going to lose us jobs". It is just a soundbite that takes something completely out of context.
I just want to help you get the real information man. They are tricking you into a panic attack and there is no reason for it.
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