it took me 11 days to get my first class ballot from florida..8/21.
Why is Voting by mail such a issue now ?
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DIY-HP-LED
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Voters Prepare For First Pandemic Election In A Century | Meet The Press | NBC News
The stakes could not be higher as Democrats and Republicans clash over how to conduct Election 2020 – amid a global pandemic.
The stakes could not be higher as Democrats and Republicans clash over how to conduct Election 2020 – amid a global pandemic.
Bear420
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How many more vote does it have to be before the majority wins, It makes it like, Why bother if my vote don't count ? I can see why I am hearing some say that, I know we need to get rid of the electoral B.S. It should be the majority Not 538 People that can override what the People want and voted for. 328 million and 3 million or more didn't count, How is that right ?
The Republican's will never want that changed they won two or more Presidential Elections now Using this Method which isn't what it should be, which in the best of times merely ensures millions of Americans’ votes are irrelevant to the outcome because they don’t live in competitive states, and in the worst of times could be vulnerable to a major crisis. Which we are in at this time.
I know that the smaller states with lower amounts of people may be worried about not having a President Rep. them, But I believe the Majority of American's are looking out for a Better U.S. and those that fear their voices won't be heard should trust the People that their lives will be better in the long run. If we are all on the same page which it should be but never seems to happen because of Lies and Money we may never come together.
Here is an article. take a second and read it.
Good day all
www.vox.com
The Republican's will never want that changed they won two or more Presidential Elections now Using this Method which isn't what it should be, which in the best of times merely ensures millions of Americans’ votes are irrelevant to the outcome because they don’t live in competitive states, and in the worst of times could be vulnerable to a major crisis. Which we are in at this time.
I know that the smaller states with lower amounts of people may be worried about not having a President Rep. them, But I believe the Majority of American's are looking out for a Better U.S. and those that fear their voices won't be heard should trust the People that their lives will be better in the long run. If we are all on the same page which it should be but never seems to happen because of Lies and Money we may never come together.
Here is an article. take a second and read it.
Good day all
Why the Electoral College is the absolute worst, explained
Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology, culture, science, the climate crisis, money...
it's a long story and has to do with exactly what's happening now- which isn't supposed to happen..the caucus bullshit is extremely annoying too because if your guy isn't chosen you get another choice and go sit with them and so on.How many more vote does it have to be before the majority wins, It makes it like, Why bother if my vote don't count ? I can see why I am hearing some say that, I know we need to get rid of the electoral B.S. It should be the majority Not 538 People that can override what the People want and voted for. 328 million and 3 million or more didn't count, How is that right ?
The Republican's will never want that changed they won two or more Presidential Elections now Using this Method which isn't what it should be, which in the best of times merely ensures millions of Americans’ votes are irrelevant to the outcome because they don’t live in competitive states, and in the worst of times could be vulnerable to a major crisis. Which we are in at this time.
I know that the smaller states with lower amounts of people may be worried about not having a President Rep. them, But I believe the Majority of American's are looking out for a Better U.S. and those that fear their voices won't be heard should trust the People that their lives will be better in the long run. If we are all on the same page which it should be but never seems to happen because of Lies and Money we may never come together.
Here is an article. take a second and read it.
Good day all
Why the Electoral College is the absolute worst, explained
Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology, culture, science, the climate crisis, money...
our framers never considered what would happen if the senate and a president were in on it together.
every day i check this, and every day it's the same: pelosi 600 extension news you've visited this page 15 times.
still waiting for stimulus $1200. and my refund filed on 4/4/20..guess they know my return is blue.
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hanimmal
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I would remind people they are at the very least voting for the House of Representative member of their home district, which is the most important thing in this election that it goes Democrat.How many more vote does it have to be before the majority wins, It makes it like, Why bother if my vote don't count ? I can see why I am hearing some say that, I know we need to get rid of the electoral B.S. It should be the majority Not 538 People that can override what the People want and voted for. 328 million and 3 million or more didn't count, How is that right ?
The Republican's will never want that changed they won two or more Presidential Elections now Using this Method which isn't what it should be, which in the best of times merely ensures millions of Americans’ votes are irrelevant to the outcome because they don’t live in competitive states, and in the worst of times could be vulnerable to a major crisis. Which we are in at this time.
I know that the smaller states with lower amounts of people may be worried about not having a President Rep. them, But I believe the Majority of American's are looking out for a Better U.S. and those that fear their voices won't be heard should trust the People that their lives will be better in the long run. If we are all on the same page which it should be but never seems to happen because of Lies and Money we may never come together.
Here is an article. take a second and read it.
Good day all
Why the Electoral College is the absolute worst, explained
Vox is a general interest news site for the 21st century. Its mission: to help everyone understand our complicated world, so that we can all help shape it. In text, video and audio, our reporters explain politics, policy, world affairs, technology, culture, science, the climate crisis, money...
If Republicans win your district, that is one less vote for the much needed investigations to figure out everything Trump broke in the last 4 years. Also if there is a senator up for election in your state, a vote for Democrat means you will have a chance to see work actually get done on the Federal level and less chance of unqualified idiots like Trump has been appointing to the judiciary from getting lifetime appointments.
And just as important (especially if you want things like everyone having access to affordable health insurance in your state) is Democrats in state seats and governorships (Covid shows the importance of a Democratic governor during Trump's mishandling of our federal response).
Voting more than ever is important because we need things to get done and not let all the hard work of the centuries of our forefathers go to waste because a handful of Wealthy White Heterosexual Males decided they don't want any women or people of color telling them no they can't do something they want to and have worked for decades to sell lies about anything not in their agenda being some kind of 'ism'.
Bear420
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I have not gotten mine either, 1200 that is.
It would be better with the Check though.
Enjoy your Sunday !!
what the hell..?
Bear420
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I think it went in Trumps Bank Account. LOL Just kidding but who know, ? right ?
Today we hear about President Wolf in Sheep Clothing was talking and we are now hearing he knew this Virus was Deadly to every American. This is Stunning and Trump Should Resign over this, but he will not and his flock of sheep won't care, That's a really sad fact and I often wonder why these Sheep following are do Dedicated to him. He's killed Thousands of innocent good People. I have to wonder what kind of Potion these sheep are eating ?
Trump needs to resign now.
Oh for you sheep that keep following Trump, Don't try and do what he is asking you to do, Or Do ! Because when you get caught and you will get caught trying to vote 2 times you will more than likely never be allowed to vote in an American election again. Hopefully that's the case because you all are screwing the American Dream up by following this big bad wolf in sheeps Clothing.
BAHHH BAHHH and you all kept calling Us Democrats Sheep. Well better look in the mirror Annabelle Remember her ?
Nobody needs to Cheat to beat Trump we all just need to come together and put him out. It's been nothing but chaos since he's taken office, I have to ask do you really think all the People here would not like Trump if he was really doing good ? If so why ?
Listen we all want a better America but this just isn't the way to go about it.
Sorry Schuylaar I went on a bit. have a great day !!
Peace, love, health, and caring, that is what makes us a great Nation.
he won't..we're the child he's holding up as body armour..
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Fox "News"...
Non-stop lies, false narratives and fear mongering since 1996...
People are that stupid. The objective reasoning of the conservative mind stops at bias affirmation. These people cannot tell the difference between investigative journalism/reporting and talking heads telling them what they already believe. Over and over and over again...
They are influenced, not informed.
hanimmal
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Everything that they see online, in the TV shows they mistake for news on Fox, and of course the Dear Leader himself demanding so much attention for them to be able to tune everything out. That is the problem with the propaganda attack that the Russian military is conducting on our citizens, they can troll these people on whatever forum they communicate on and give them all the data driven social interaction they need to believe the lies Trump needs for them to get him re-eelcted.
When you know everyone down to the district they vote in, and how they are actually saying they will be voting, you can nudge them in whatever direction needed to convince them to not vote or vote for Kanye if they won't vote for Trump. Works really well when you can get people in families to get radicalized on conflicting sides of issues so that way nobody can talk and their information bubbles harden.
CunningCanuk
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Acosta asks Trump supporters why they aren't wearing masks
Trump supporter on not wearing a mask: It's a fake pandemic - CNN Video
CNN's Jim Acosta asks a few attendees at President Donald Trump's rally in Michigan why they won't wear a mask.
www.cnn.com
hanimmal
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Im always so scared I am going to see my dad in one of those videos.Acosta asks Trump supporters why they aren't wearing masks
Trump supporter on not wearing a mask: It's a fake pandemic - CNN Video
CNN's Jim Acosta asks a few attendees at President Donald Trump's rally in Michigan why they won't wear a mask.
Bear420
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hanimmal I certainly hope you don't see you dad in one, But we never know I have some great friends that support the Blundering Turd of the White House and it just surprises me because they are good People that are either not getting it or in it for the stock market.
I try to convince them but it's always the same thing, that's why I say somethings in the pudding or hypnotic trance on Faux...
Good day and thanks all for the Great replies. Talking here hopefully can change one mine we have done our jobs.
I try to convince them but it's always the same thing, that's why I say somethings in the pudding or hypnotic trance on Faux...
Good day and thanks all for the Great replies. Talking here hopefully can change one mine we have done our jobs.
Bear420
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Holy shit they will do anything to ruin this election. It's a freaking shame that these Two faced Republican's aren't in Prison for screwing us like they are, Mail in voting, Stimulus for the needy, Food, Housing thousands are suffering Right Now as we speak, But yet the Idiots on the Right Side are ramming through a pick for the Idiot that can't tell the truth so they can stack the court, But fuck the good People that need help, this is INSANE.
why? this is unreal, but here we are seeing it for ourselves these idiots care nothing about people suffering and care more about politics instead of People.
What do we do? we vote in person by mail or what ever way we can that will get counted.
I want to see Trump take a walk out into the Crowd without his mask on. How about it Trump supporters what do you think, should the President walk into the crowd at his rally and mingle with his supporters. Yes he should, But he won't because he knows the Danger and don't give a shit if you get infected, But we do, Ya know I wanted to give all his supporters the benefit of doubt, But now you Moron's don't care who you Infect and kill.
I say get all of the names of Trump Supporters who go to a rally and get the virus infect innocent people who may die, if so you should be held accountable and go to trial for manslaughter VOLUNTARY too. Because you do not care you have no respect for those who may be hurt by your ignorance to what and who you may kill.
Horrible I thought People were better than this, very sad !!
Donald and supporters Theme song ::
why? this is unreal, but here we are seeing it for ourselves these idiots care nothing about people suffering and care more about politics instead of People.
What do we do? we vote in person by mail or what ever way we can that will get counted.
I want to see Trump take a walk out into the Crowd without his mask on. How about it Trump supporters what do you think, should the President walk into the crowd at his rally and mingle with his supporters. Yes he should, But he won't because he knows the Danger and don't give a shit if you get infected, But we do, Ya know I wanted to give all his supporters the benefit of doubt, But now you Moron's don't care who you Infect and kill.
I say get all of the names of Trump Supporters who go to a rally and get the virus infect innocent people who may die, if so you should be held accountable and go to trial for manslaughter VOLUNTARY too. Because you do not care you have no respect for those who may be hurt by your ignorance to what and who you may kill.
Horrible I thought People were better than this, very sad !!
Donald and supporters Theme song ::
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hanimmal
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2021/06/06/dejoy-fbi-investigation-usps/
The FBI investigation into Postmaster General Louis DeJoy threatens to fray a fragile bipartisan and cross-industry coalition that supports financial relief legislation for the U.S. Postal Service, opening a new vein of turmoil for the embattled agency.
A DeJoy spokesman confirmed to The Washington Post on Thursday that the postal chief is cooperating with the inquiry tied to political fundraising at his now-defunct North Carolina business. Agents have interviewed current and former employees of DeJoy and New Breed Logistics in connection with allegations that employees donated to Republican candidates and were later reimbursed with workplace bonuses.
FBI investigating Postmaster General Louis DeJoy in connection with past political fundraising
The Post first reported the allegations in September, and agents have conducted the interviews in the past two weeks, according to two people familiar with the investigation, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe an ongoing investigation. Another said DeJoy was issued a subpoena in connection with the inquiry.
DeJoy’s spokesman said the postmaster general never “knowingly” violated campaign finance law.
Though DeJoy has not been charged with any crimes, the inquiry presents a new political hazard as he presses forward with one of the biggest overhauls in the agency’s history, one contingent on winning legislative support to restructure its finances. Congressional and industry officials say his legal position could imperil bills advancing in the House and Senate that would relieve the Postal Service of $44 billion in debt, as well as its annual $5 billion retiree health-care payments.
His standing before the agency’s board of governors, to which he reports, appears stable, according to experts who closely monitor the group’s work. The panel has resisted previous calls to dismiss DeJoy, who has been called before Congress four times to answer for directives — a crackdown on overtime, limits on mail trips and the removal of hundreds of mail sorters, among them — widely blamed for mail backlogs nationwide and a pronounced slowdown in delivery.
None of the six sitting board members — Republicans Robert M. Duncan, John Barger, Roman Martinez IV and William Zollars and Democrats Ron Bloom, the board’s chair, and Lee Moak — responded to requests for comment.
Louis DeJoy’s rise as GOP fundraiser was powered by contributions from company workers who were later reimbursed, former employees say
“Many of us have priorities that we would love to see included in the Postal Service reform bill. However, we all understand that our top priority is to keep the Postal Service solvent so it can continue to provide critical services for all Americans. To do that, the Postal Service Reform Act has to have broad support from all stakeholders.”
Industry groups, too, have weighed how to engage with lawmakers over Maloney’s bill and with the Postal Regulatory Commission over DeJoy’s controversial 10-year “Delivering for America” plan, the people said. That effort, announced in March, calls for longer delivery windows, higher prices, fewer employees and regional consolidation to shed $160 billon in projected losses over the next decade. Last week, the agency said postage rates would climb as much as 6.9 percent in August, sending the cost of a first-class stamp to 58 cents.
The groups see DeJoy’s legal issues as an opening to beat back his proposals to raise postage prices and slow delivery times. But they’re also fearful that if support crumbles around the bill, new policies could disproportionately affect certain industry stakeholders, including unions and commercial mailers.
What’s in Louis DeJoy’s 10-year plan for the USPS
The people say the groups are looking to Maloney to solidify the agreements surrounding the legislation and navigate it through the uncertainty caused by the investigation.
“It’s a delicate balance for Maloney,” said one Democratic House aide. “On our side of the aisle … there are a lot of people who won’t do anything to give DeJoy a win or extend viability to the postmaster general.”
DeJoy was met with suspicion nearly the moment the governing board announced his hiring in May 2020 because of his deep ties to President Donald Trump and history of political fundraising. Rep. Gerald E. Connolly (D-Va.) labeled DeJoy a “crony” and has called his restructuring efforts a “Trojan horse.”
Democrats in the House and Senate have called for the governors to remove DeJoy from his post over the agency’s troublesome delivery performance, and some have pushed President Biden to fire the governors if they won’t do so themselves.
The postal chief, for his part, has made clear that he expects his tenure to be long-term. When Rep. Jim Cooper (D-Tenn.) asked how long he planned to remain at the Postal Service during a House hearing in February, DeJoy said, “Get used to me.”
He has continued to move forward on his agenda. Last month, DeJoy struck a deal with House leaders on one of his most pressing priorities: replacing the aging mail truck fleet with electric vehicles at a cost of $8 billion. But the investigation threatens to derail the momentum between the two sides.
“For nearly a year, I have been clear that Postmaster General DeJoy would not be in his job if he worked for any other company,” Maloney said. “If these allegations are true and Postmaster General DeJoy violated campaign finance laws, he must resign immediately or the Board of Governors must remove him.”
Rep. Bill Pascrell Jr. (D-N.J.), who has urged Biden to dismiss the six sitting board members, called for the president’s three recently confirmed nominees to move to fire DeJoy immediately after being sworn in.
DeJoy spokesman Monty Hagler said in September, after The Post published its initial report on his fundraising activities, that the postal leader “believes that he has always followed campaign fundraising laws and regulations.”
DeJoy had previously sought and received legal advice from a former general counsel for the Federal Election Commission, Hagler said, to ensure he and his company “fully complied with any and all laws.”
Meet Biden’s Postal Service nominees, who could add pressure on Louis DeJoy
Meanwhile, some of DeJoy’s harshest critics have urged colleagues to remain focused on the Postal Service Reform Act while the FBI investigation continues. Cooper, who asked DeJoy in an August hearing whether he had repaid executives for making donations to the Trump campaign, cautioned his colleagues in a Friday interview: “Don’t let the best be the enemy of the good.”
“Talk to me when we don’t have a 50-50 Senate and a three-vote margin in the House,” Cooper said. “We have to be able to show the American people we can govern, and we have to show that we can keep the post office functioning.”
USPS raises stamp price to 58 cents as part of DeJoy’s 10-year plan
“I think the DeJoy scandal has reminded every congressperson how beloved the post office is and how dependent we are on an efficient post office,” he said. “The structural reforms that Maloney is recommending are long overdue. And now that we have the attention of the members, it’s time to pass this postal reform bill.”
Other congressional officials have advised that even if the Postal Service’s governing board were to remove DeJoy, the agency and his would-be successor would still face long-term financial barriers. But DeJoy’s job appears safe because the board lacks the votes to remove him even after Biden’s three appointees take office later this month. Bloom, the board’s chair, has publicly backed the postmaster general and his 10-year plan. Moak has remained mum on the topic.
The Postal Service has $188.4 billion in liabilities, nearly three-quarters of which is made up of retiree health-care and pension costs. Officials project the agency will lose another $160 billion over the next decade as mail volume declines, though revenue for 2021 has so far greatly exceeded expectations.
Experts expect Biden’s recently confirmed board appointees to press DeJoy on his past political fundraising and his 10-year plan at the group’s first in-person meeting later this month.
