Why is this plant so pale

snoeman032

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Not hard at all. Basically the same as Heavy 16 or any other multi-part nutrient line with the added benefit of balanced pH and even the base 3-part has has some supplements already added.

All you need is the 3-part and Big Bud. I grow mostly in ProMix HP soiiless or DWC. I've done about 50 DWC grows and many never got a single nute change tho I try to do one after the stretch when I'll switch to a Lucas Formula feeding style. I like to add a bit of silica so use Rhino Skin for that. I don't buy all the other crap. That part is hype and not really for newer growers as it's easy to screw up especially if you follow AN's feeding charts. I'm growing Kush plants now but I ain't running out and buying any Kushie Kush nutes. lol

I only use RO water and that helps by not adding all sorts of minerals and crap found in tap water which can screw up plants. My plants only get what I give them.

Anything will work and it just takes experience to get good results. I get away with not changing nutes because I've got pretty good at reading my plants. I could never keep a houseplant alive but do all right with pot. My first grows weren't great but I've read 1000s of hours about growing pot. Have a few good grow books and boxes of magazines like Cannabis Culture, High Times etc. Until it shut down in January I was the the Admin at the Cannabis Culture forums and was 2 weeks short of my 10th anniversary there. Just got an award here yesterday for hitting 5000 posts. This is about the only forum I've been on that doesn't have post counts and likes listed under your name. Doesn't take long to get Well-Known Member status so it doesn't tell much about a users real experience.

Patience Grasshopper. Time is on your side. ;)

Study some of these.

I found a great spot to download FREE POT BOOKS . I downloaded a grow bible first and got lots more. Books look great and complete like the real ones I have here. No web site but just a page of links. Just right click on what you want and then "Save Link As" to download so they don't open first as many are 50+ megs. They got lots. Enjoy.

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Thanks a lot man
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
It's more than just that tho. Has a better P/K ratio for pot than most, 0-15-35 with 10% sulfur, 20 aminos and ascorbic and citric acids. I hate to grow without as it really makes a big difference to yields and resin production and smells too.
Hmm, ok but, I'm not in tune with the Vitamin C and the Citric acids......Oh, bet that's part of the pH thing.... The S is your terps part....... Yields can be manipulated with out such high P&K levels but, I bet you use small amounts too, very small likely.....

Check out Fox Farms labels and names then explain the difference to me. ;) They all use marketing hype to flog their wares.
Sure do! Most do period......

I don't use any G&H products......I could care less about Scott's owning them.

Monsatan. Hate them with a passion.....Bayer is no real biggie to me.....Not into conspiracy theories. There used to be a rumor that Monsatan was involved in a project to collect all cannabis DNA. This was/is false!
I sure as hell don't trust the guy and the business doing it though!

Maxyield and Big Buds mag's are deep into a war with each other. Both are full of shit! PROPAGANDA RAGS! Both of them! High Times is just like Monsanto, AN, Big Buds and MaxYield! They are a profit driven company that out right lies in some of their pieces! This is to tote the bottom line of it's advertiser's products. If they told the truth, many advertisers would not buy space. In fact, as an advertiser. AN actually bought the major space in one issue to let Big Mike spout claims about the future of AN products. All with a big eye catching front page and massive full page adds before, in side of, and at the end of every AN piece that filled the mag. In effect Big Mike "bought" the right to be in the whole issue as the focus......

The same goes for any Cannabis mag ! They are basically crap. Their growers are overly opinionated and give false info. Again to tote the advertisers products, or like in SKUNK. You have a rabid, opinionated that "HIS" method is the end all, do all, way to grow, PERIOD. Advice guy.....I have yet to find ANY magazine worth it's salt....EVEN the GROW magazine has some really off the wall piece's.....This one gets close but I still find it so full of some sort of crap that I will not do more then, look at it (or any of them) in passing.....

I get a cannabis mag and have an overwhelming need to put it in the in the bathroom in case I run out of TP! Much of them would be better served if they spent their time behind us, then in front of our face...

I like other Nutrient brands better...
You like AN.

Just because something works. Don't make it the best. AN is as shady as everybody else. More so in the eye's of many long, long term growers.

You grow well with what you use. That's fine.... But your spinning your wheels with all the propaganda you quote from AN's crappy BIG BUD mag.....

As far as calling nutrient makers about growing cannabis....It's still against FEDERAL LAW in the US! Admitting what their product is, could be a problem.....Hell, the US made Canada turn over a simple seed seller...Just because he pissed off the alphabet boys....Basically (He should have quit poking them but, was in it to change things)

We now ware our opinions on our cuff.

Peace bra!
 

OldMedUser

Well-Known Member
Yields can be manipulated with out such high P&K levels but, I bet you use small amounts too, very small likely.....
I for sure have never followed the charts laid out but chart my own course. While I'm vegging I'm running my 3-part nute in a 3-2-1 ratio of GMB so I'm not building up too much P and K during the usually long veg periods I'll do. They don't need lots of those during veg but then I'm low on them at the flip so they get some just before going 12/12 then modest amounts up to the end of week 5 then I'll let them coast to the end getting nothing but water mostly unless they show signs of needing something.

I pity the fools that go out and spend big on AN's Grand Master kits thinking that's what they need to become a master grower then watch their crops go to shit. Same with a lot of the other nute makers too that tout their wares as needed to succeed.

Every grow I do has some experimentation involved to keep it interesting. This last experiment with just organic inputs went sideways burning the crap out of the plants but they are coming around after repotting and by the time they go into flower all those burnt leaves will be gone. Think I'll stick to what I do well for a while. :)

:peace:
 

Dr. Who

Well-Known Member
I for sure have never followed the charts laid out but chart my own course. While I'm vegging I'm running my 3-part nute in a 3-2-1 ratio of GMB so I'm not building up too much P and K during the usually long veg periods I'll do. They don't need lots of those during veg but then I'm low on them at the flip so they get some just before going 12/12 then modest amounts up to the end of week 5 then I'll let them coast to the end getting nothing but water mostly unless they show signs of needing something.

I pity the fools that go out and spend big on AN's Grand Master kits thinking that's what they need to become a master grower then watch their crops go to shit. Same with a lot of the other nute makers too that tout their wares as needed to succeed.

Every grow I do has some experimentation involved to keep it interesting. This last experiment with just organic inputs went sideways burning the crap out of the plants but they are coming around after repotting and by the time they go into flower all those burnt leaves will be gone. Think I'll stick to what I do well for a while. :)

:peace:

Nice post.
 
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