Why is my plant growing like this?

This is a purple kush indica dominant plant being grown in a 2.5 x 2.5 tent 12 inches under a 300w (116w actual power comsumption) light. My problem is that I see videos of people with large side branches reaching out and up but that is not happening with this plant and it seems to be growing sort of slow for the 40th day. I think the light is pretty strong and should give it enough for optimal performance. Havent had any deficiencies although i think these are only 1 gallon pots (not entirely sure maybe 1.5 or something.)
Also for the record I just took off the last fan leaf out of all of them within a course of 4 days to give them light but they are still growing pretty slow. And still I feel the plant should be taller.
Is this small plant normal under these conditions?
What are you guys' thoughts on the shape of this plant? which I find odd but of course this is my first grow

Indicas usually grow smaller, and tighter to start with. Topping, and removing leaves will slow growth temporarily, so will non-ideal conditions like over or under watering and temperature issues. How high up is the light? Your plant looks pretty happy and healthy.

Mmm thanks for the feedback the light is about 10-12 inches up.

Rondeady said:

Mmm thanks for the feedback the light is about 10-12 inches up.

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That seems like a decent height then. It really may be genetics if all the other factors are inline. It also might end up being a great plant. Its growing more slowly right now, but it looks like it will have a strong structure, and that is needed to grow big buds.

There is more that meets the eyes.. Its a question of root water and nut intake over photosynthèse activity. A lot of it is do to diffrent technique used for traning that plays with phytohormones, like auxin and cytokinin... Any training is good some better at certaing tgen other... In exemple topping to force branching. A better technic that force a plant to get ticker without topping is stem-knuckling. I start this early (cotyledon are still green) it makes the plant even shorter if you do it every chance you've got. It may cause a plit in the stem but i's not concern at all... What this does is for axial growth without loosing apical meristem. Without toping you can have the lower branche catch the top in 6-7 weeks and can have a 50% height reduction 1" main stem inernodes... Once i have 1 feet of canopy i keep doing this till all top are a same level and remove all useless branch leaf and sucker.. Keep popping the stems. And the plant stock get bigger.. I like making the plant grow exactly how i want... I stem-knucle anything that might want to get higher in first weeks of flower to limit strech and remove every suck under 6inch of canopy on first day of flowering abd leaf all fan leaf reamaning under till they die on its own. But that's just what i like to do.

And you are right your plant is a little small. My mother gave me some indica and your are the hight of those i've pop stems and topped.. While the ones i've only popped a little are maybe 6in taller then the ones i top..

These started from seed on the 22second if september. And the seedling is on the 28 if soetember. I have remove up to 4 nodes complete defoliation on these and they had lower branche removed on most if them.

Frigault said:

These started from seed on the 22second if september. And the seedling is on the 28 if soetember. I have remove up to 4 nodes complete defoliation on these and they had lower branche removed on most if them.

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yea you see how your side branches are coming out and up. Mines just come out and they barely do that. Also yours are very thick and strong. I feed mines well i just dont see a reason why they aren’t as good as yours. I guess i’ll just see how it does come harvest. On the other hand I never topped mines until about a week ago. How many days from seed was your first topping?

Frigault said:

These started from seed on the 22second if september. And the seedling is on the 28 if soetember. I have remove up to 4 nodes complete defoliation on these and they had lower branche removed on most if them.

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What size gallon pot are you growing in?

You could really do with an extra light, you running around 18.5w per square foot which is not enough with even the most efficient LEDs for flowering.
With that type of light you often get a short compact plant in veg.
Genetics will play a big part on the plants structure too, some plants don't throw off big sides and others do.
Try super cropping to take away the apical dominance . Which is what I think that guy is calling stem knuckling.

Rondeady said:

What size gallon pot are you growing in?

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Lol maybe half a gollon of soil

Rondeady said:

yea you see how your side branches are coming out and up. Mines just come out and they barely do that. Also yours are very thick and strong. I feed mines well i just dont see a reason why they aren’t as good as yours. I guess i’ll just see how it does come harvest. On the other hand I never topped mines until about a week ago. How many days from seed was your first topping?

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That would explain it.. Mine were put into the impression they were top when they weren't. And were top weeks and month ago.. Crushing the stems will cause the same effect that topping does over time.

coreywebster said:

You could really do with an extra light, you running around 18.5w per square foot which is not enough with even the most efficient LEDs for flowering.
With that type of light you often get a short compact plant in veg.
Genetics will play a big part on the plants structure too, some plants don't throw off big sides and others do.
Try super cropping to take away the apical dominance . Which is what I think that guy is calling stem knuckling.

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Yeah i think that might be what people reffer to it as for the passed decades. Super cropping. Works really great. You have to take on consideration that the plant dosen't stall on growth the first few days of healling. It creats hormone to make new apical dominant top on side branche and when it realize it dosen't have the root mass for the energy to support the new shoot enery and the apical dominacy combine with the energie needed for the apical meristem that occure ut will go in a root formation phase. After the week has passed an plant is healed the root will be sending flow up and the plant more energy down and that extra boost will go true stem thickening. Maybe i could have used better words. Its a 2-3 day healing and a 7 days total result process. Can only be done once per internode. After that if you want to redo it befor flowering you can use the kushman chiropratice.. He's done a video last month but people have been doing this for years

Frigault said:

Yeah i think that might be what people reffer to it as for the passed decades. Super cropping. Works really great. You have to take on consideration that the plant dosen't stall on growth the first few days of healling. It creats hormone to make new apical dominant top on side branche and when it realize it dosen't have the root mass for the energy to support the new shoot enery and the apical dominacy combine with the energie needed for the apical meristem that occure ut will go in a root formation phase. After the week has passed an plant is healed the root will be sending flow up and the plant more energy down and that extra boost will go true stem thickening. Maybe i could have used better words. Its a 2-3 day healing and a 7 days total result process. Can only be done once per internode. After that if you want to redo it befor flowering you can use the kushman chiropratice.. He's done a video last month but people have been doing this for years

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Wow very well said i just tried to do the technique on my 25 day old and the stem broke a little so i’ll do more research on it but thanks

Rondeady said:

Wow very well said i just tried to do the technique on my 25 day old and the stem broke a little so i’ll do more research on it but thanks

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The braking a little is no big deal. It sometime split along the stem after the pop but it heals. And if it break as long has it still attached it will heal it self it will just take a little longer the overall growth will not be stunned from it only that section will be affected and it will guve the rest of the plant to catch up. I shiw on another post how to reatache a top (which is only useful if its a decent size to compromuse yield) . Some time the stem may cause the top to tip over due to weight but rises back after few days. That okay too. Check 'Cerventes' old video. My technic is derived from him and karl kushman. Its the same principle as low stress training. And by trying more and more you'll eventually manage to train your plant to grow the way you want its a great technic for optimal yieled in a space saving enviroment. I'll you have to do is feel the 'pop' super cropping is more oriented on the breaking of the stem to move it in a direction like LST but it has that stem cloging effect that cause stem thicken while low stress training dosen't as much. And the stem popping technic causes the same same result without altering shape has much. I save the orientation for the end so i can focus on other thing like removing inward growing leaves and sucker. But training your plant is fun. Jt gets you up close and personal with your strain... You can see trait hardening trait that would normal only show under hard stress training or later on in life cycle.. I'm trying it with an autoflowering bleuberry right now to see what good might come out of it..

Frigault said:

The braking a little is no big deal. It sometime split along the stem after the pop but it heals. And if it break as long has it still attached it will heal it self it will just take a little longer the overall growth will not be stunned from it only that section will be affected and it will guve the rest of the plant to catch up. I shiw on another post how to reatache a top (which is only useful if its a decent size to compromuse yield) . Some time the stem may cause the top to tip over due to weight but rises back after few days. That okay too. Check 'Cerventes' old video. My technic is derived from him and karl kushman. Its the same principle as low stress training. And by trying more and more you'll eventually manage to train your plant to grow the way you want its a great technic for optimal yieled in a space saving enviroment. I'll you have to do is feel the 'pop' super cropping is more oriented on the breaking of the stem to move it in a direction like LST but it has that stem cloging effect that cause stem thicken while low stress training dosen't as much. And the stem popping technic causes the same same result without altering shape has much. I save the orientation for the end so i can focus on other thing like removing inward growing leaves and sucker. But training your plant is fun. Jt gets you up close and personal with your strain... You can see trait hardening trait that would normal only show under hard stress training or later on in life cycle.. I'm trying it with an autoflowering bleuberry right now to see what good might come out of it..

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Okay and since you are experienced can I also ask, "is it okay to
Keep plant in a one gallon when switching to flower?"

Rondeady said:

Okay and since you are experienced can I also ask, "is it okay to
Keep plant in a one gallon when switching to flower?"

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Yes. You can you'll have to water more often and since your 1 gallon will also retain less nutrient you feed nutrient more often. I do all kinds of experiement since i grow out of passion 'i don' t even smoke i stoped decades ago. But i always have a plant growing. If i were you i would drill many holes on the side of your pots. This will prune the roots (no rootball will circle around the pot) instead the tip will dry and die of and they will branch up from further inside and keep redoing the same thing has it reach the holes. You will have a better oxigenation. And root devellopement stops a few weeks into fkowering.. I put 3 plants into flowering at diffrent time i think they are in half gallon they were the plants i didn't want to keep. I think one is startin week 4 in a few days and the other 2 are almost done week 2. I don't check days. I just vedge it till look like what i want then i flip to flower and then i harvest when it in the spot i like.. I have a dark room and i transfert it when it needs to. I do everything manually that way it gets me something to do wuth en everyday. I remove em from the pot look at the root. Look for bug sign of hillness. I water acording to how dry the root ball seem by touch. I try to avoid running the water so i water slowy and let it soak.. Basicly this grow was to find a male so i could breed. Some strains i have. Si i needed a strong male. Ine showed sign early i kept it and a month later what i was hoping to be a strong female turn out to show it was a male a few days ago. So i thrash it. And kept the mkst dominent genotype. Friday i'll flip the last plant. And i'll have 3 harvest.

On small growth i don't remove the lower fan leaves, i just focus on removing sucker. In this pictur i spoted on that i'll remove. And a pictur of the root 50 days. Normal it would be transplanted but has you can see, since it has been flip almost 2 weeks ago. Root won't be an issue. The ones i did not flip to flower will need to be transplanted or pruned back as they reached their potting capacity. For veg

You can ask me any question related to horticulture. I have a degree in gardening and horticulture and it's also and i always answer to the best of my knowledge. And i read on canabis everyday out of passion

Frigault said:

You can ask me any question related to horticulture. I have a degree in gardening and horticulture and it's also and i always answer to the best of my knowledge. And i read on canabis everyday out of passion

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Thanks a lot man I have a question about “re-vegging”
So after I flower and harvest my plants, I would like to have a clone or two to start my next grow with but of course my plants will already be flowered by then so any clone I take off would be fully flowered and I dont have a second tent to take a clone out and veg before hand. So my question is if I root a fully flowered clone and flip it back to the 18/6 light cycle will it properly grow vegetatively and later be flowered again?
If yes, will it have to be stripped of the bud first?