Why is Israel so important to Trump?
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hanimmal
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hotrodharley
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The Bible freaks are focused on Armageddon. Check the book of Revelations. A psychedelic trip written down. Required for Jesus to return. Finally. Supposedly.I am kind of out of touch with the Evangelical/Israel connection, is there a white supremacist undertone somewhere in it? Its always confused me, I usually get distracted by racist shit to ask about it.
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I understand that Evangelicals give shade to Right wing racists because killing babies > people who are all going to hell anyways treatment of others who don't look like me. But I really don't get the Israel hype going on so much in our politics.
Seriously to the next post. Nobody should let themselves get so worked up by the trolling going on to talk about something like that.
hanimmal
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Yeah I get the whole push on that, but I don't remember Israel being such a important factor growing up. My dad went from catholic as a kid to later kind of falling into Jehovah witness, to eventually full on born again southern baptist. It never really came up, and I am seeing it in every other paragraph anyone from Trump is talking about. So they are not necessarily out to garner Jewish support as much as not piss off evangelicals with this? Because I was starting to think it was some kind of code word the way they use it.
Unclebaldrick
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These fuckers can't stand the idea of dying before "the rapture" comes. It would validate their pathetic lives. If you gave them a chance to nuke the world before they died, they would do it.
Meanwhile, their sign of impending rapture fucks kids. Nice.
hanimmal
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That is scary shit, I forgot about wanting a war that ends all wars bullshit. Seems he is looking for a reason to start this war with Iraq then, maybe that is why he is pushing it, to get the Israeli people worked up against these 4 congresswomen. So he and MBS can get them to start shit for him first. And with the prime minister of England looking like it is going to be a moron who was indirectly(?) boosted by Russia it is looking easy to manufacture this crisis he once said Obama was going to do to get re-elected.
hotrodharley
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“But the true narrative of American Christian support for Israel is substantially different. The intellectual and theological roots of Christian Zionism do not rest in end-times prophesies but rather in Old Testament promises. Last month Samuel Goldman at Tablet wrote an outstanding piece explaining the centuries-old history and legacy of Christian support for Jewish claims to the Holy Land. After tracing Christian support for a Jewish Israel to the Reformation, he writes this:
These arguments were products of the emphases on the plain meaning of Scripture and the theological significance of covenants that characterized Calvinism. Before the Reformation, most Christians read prophecies like Ezekiel’s as allegories for the transformation of the “carnal” Israel descended from the patriarchs into the “spiritual Israel” represented by the Church. Calvin and his followers, by contrast, insisted that allegorical interpretations were permitted only when literal ones made no sense. But why was it nonsensical to believe that the Jews might be reconstituted as a nation and return to their own land?”
The Old Testament that Jesus informed everyone about saying that was then and that there was a new covenant now. The same Jesus these mofos ignore at every turn and with everything they say. So obviously Jesus done be kicked from da equation.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/the-real-reasons-american-evangelicals-support-israel/
These arguments were products of the emphases on the plain meaning of Scripture and the theological significance of covenants that characterized Calvinism. Before the Reformation, most Christians read prophecies like Ezekiel’s as allegories for the transformation of the “carnal” Israel descended from the patriarchs into the “spiritual Israel” represented by the Church. Calvin and his followers, by contrast, insisted that allegorical interpretations were permitted only when literal ones made no sense. But why was it nonsensical to believe that the Jews might be reconstituted as a nation and return to their own land?”
The Old Testament that Jesus informed everyone about saying that was then and that there was a new covenant now. The same Jesus these mofos ignore at every turn and with everything they say. So obviously Jesus done be kicked from da equation.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/03/the-real-reasons-american-evangelicals-support-israel/
hotrodharley
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All this shit based on a fucking book made up of more books of fables. Like burning bushes that speak to you and a “loving God” who orders you to sacrifice your only son to Him and an old nut who was more than ready to do it.
hotrodharley
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In the this same Bible God showed Moses the Promised Land. Stiffed Moe worse than Trump would have. Moe noted there was people there already and God told him to take the place. Their women and their homes and their crops. Everything. That’s the Jews side of the story. They act like He means it still.
hanimmal
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I just forget how crazy it all gets, I have been sheltered in my non-religious adulthood.
hotrodharley
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I’m sure these same evangelicals could be persuaded to see their Lord put brown people where he wanted them to be too. So they’ll understand we should turn back all the land here to their rightful owners and their God given homes. Is that such a stretch? Ask the National Review. Toss Squareass’s wide load onto a lowboy and get her to the nearest pier. Set her afloat. Warn the Japanese since they’ve started commercial whaling again.
dandyrandy
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When people believe divine powers give them rights they will stop at nothing. The crusades come to mind. Christian and Muslim crusades. An Indian docter said to me religious people believe they are above others.
hanimmal
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How could someone not be when they are taught that if you believe what their parents believe they are so special that the being that created everything will take the time to listen to just you every time you want.
Unclebaldrick
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It even allows them to totally ignore the teachings of Jesus - who was a righteous dude.
Normally, that would be fine but they kinda based their religion on him (to his chagrine).
dandyrandy
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You need to read some of the Jesus miracles that didn't make the bible...
dandyrandy
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You need to friend some evangelicals. I grew up as one. Still live around them. Joel Osteen would be my kind of religion after living over 70 years. His teachings are only hang around positive people that can help you move upward in the food chain. Capitalist Christianity.
hotrodharley
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I was raised in west Texas in a Southern Baptist church. No black or Hispanic came to our church. This one hellfire and brimstone Bible thumping preacher described how wonderful it was going to be when Christ returned. The dead shall rise again and even the seas would give up their dead. Then Jesus and all His followers, including all those formerly dead folks, would rise to Heaven and sit by the right hand of God. Now if that didn’t get you excited enough to join up he went on to describe Hell and everyone who you expect to run into if you went there. Your choice. Submit to the Lord and tithe. That 10% was supposed to come off the gross too by the way. Then no dancing, no smoking, no cussing or fucking and you were good to go to Heaven with all these boring fuckers sitting around you today.
I just forget how crazy it all gets, I have been sheltered in my non-religious adulthood.
I chose Hell. The people going are cooler.
i'd worry about assassination if i were him..
and yet he's just a failure- everything he touches turns to shit..name one business he's been successful at without robbing others blindly.
hotrodharley
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“I like your Christ. I do not like your Christians. They are so unlike your Christ”
Ghandi