Why Grow with Hydro?
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bigv1976
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Hey raven did you read the OP? Just wondering because I just reread it and I asnwered exactly the question he asked. OP=How should one grow setup done with dirt compare to an identical setup that uses hydroponics in respect to yeild, plant vigour, quality of smoke and so on. What did I do wrong?
Chiceh
Global Mod, Stoner Chic
With growing hydro there is no hauling soil around, having to re-pot the plants and less mess in my opinion. All I have to do is grab a hose over and fill the reservoirs. I do keep my moms in promix though. I can't fit as many soil plants in my room as I can on the 4x8 flood tables. I agree once you have a good setup it pretty much runs itself. I basically just need to check on everything daily. Completely change out the res every 10 to 14 days and keep it topped up in between. I personally prefer the hydro buds to smoke over soil or outdoor buds. I can taste the difference. Everyone has their own opinions on the matter so you have to find what works best for you and your situation and go with it.Why grow hydroponically? what advantages are you getting that make it worth the extra expense and effort?
I will assume you get a typically bigger yeild over growing with dirt. How should one grow setup done with dirt compare to an identical setup that uses hydroponics in respect to yeild, plant vigour, quality of smoke and so on. Ive even heard to once you have your setup it can be less work to do hydro. Also heard you might shave a few days of your growing time with hydro(big deal)
I hope this isnt the thousandth time youve heard this question
Chem Dawg
New Member
Like I say if you put a average producer in Dr.Dres procuction studio and put Dr.Dre on that guys laptop with a basic program, i would bet Dr.Dre still would pump out more hits and/or better quality of music than the guy in his studio with millions of dollars worth of equipment. same rules apply..
RavenMochi
Well-Known Member
Forgive my self quote, but I hate double posting. Yes, I read the op's question, I understood it, common sense tells me if they came here instead of the soil section they did it to get a hydro growers take on it. You, a soil grower, felt the need to chime in because you weren't asked, as it wasn't put in the soil or general growing sections. This is what is referred to as "common sense". If you would like me to explain it again, please don't ask, just read it again. Didn't you say you were done cluttering this thread? What happened? Have a change of heart? I'm not trying to argue with you, speak of the benefits of hydro/soil grow, I don't care. Most of my growing experience both with mj and other have been soil, just now trying my first hydro. Nothing against dirt growing whatsoever, served man well for thousands of years, but thats NOT what this section is for, its for hydro. Read it, process it, and let it sink in before replying, please.
RavenMochi
Well-Known Member
†LOL† Yea, aint that some shit?
Brought that up to the head man himself, said it didn't matter, I wasn't here to answer hydro questions, it just mattered that I would be here alot. Since I've had to do homework to do a hydro grow I was spending a shitload of time in here, and now that I'm in the middle of one, same thing. Notice my title is Hydro/Aero mod, not master. However, with that said, my plants are doing wonderful in the coco/hydroton mix I have them in, and I think it may very well be a permanent switch. If your needing a hydro expert, one, there's Chiceh, she's a badass, also might want to look up homebrewer, gudkarma, Al b Fuct, or if your going towards Aero, I would suggest LordJin.
Anything else, or are we finally done here?
bigv1976
Well-Known Member
I am completely confused how this site works. I answer the op and the hydro mod (who happens to be on his first hydro grow) comes on and leaves a nasty post trying to push me out of a particular part of the site and still has yet to address the op. I am not sure how you got to be a hydro mod with no hydro experience but apparently you need to understand that people are supposed to come to mods when there is a problem but how can you go to a mod with a problem when the mod is the problem. You have been arguing with me from post 1 but then you say you dont want to argue. I am not sure what is going on in your mind bro but I am not the dude that took your lunch money in school. Chill out and learn something about hydro mr mod.
Chiceh
Global Mod, Stoner Chic
HAHAHahahaha I am no badass or expert, I just do my thing
. I came to this site to learn hydro myself a few years ago when I made the switch from outdoor. There are a ton of people on here you can learn a shit load from. Read, read and read some more is all I can say. 
Chem Dawg
New Member
With this said bro then the OP was looking for a biased answer to his question in which makes no sense to ask. I would think he would want the opinions of all Soil growers, Hydro growers, and both to get the best overall answer .. To jump down someones throat and say they are in the wrong section is nonsense man! and to speak of number and such when this is your first crack @ dro is foolish. Chillax bro!
Chiceh
Global Mod, Stoner Chic
I understand where you are coming from but you make it sound way more confusing than it has to be. Do you grow hydro? Are you interested in growing hydro? Do you want to see the other side?
If not, I can understand Raven calling you out as a soil grower in this section. If you have something positive to add to this thread other than the "lesser quality" you referred to, then by all means add it. As for Raven's lack of hydro experience, that has nothing to do with his capabilities to moderate this forum. Mods are not here to be growing gurus (some just are), they are moderators.
I started growing hydroponically about 20 years ago because I was tired of having my outdoor plants ripped off.
bigv1976
Well-Known Member
Yes I have grown hydro. I will grow hydro again. If my grow space temps were a little more stable I would probably grow hydro all the time due to the rapid growth. I am not knocking hydro at all. I do believe however that hydro is geared towards rapid growth and better yields (great for commercial growers). I really feel like this has gone too far. Please Chiceh, read his first post to me and tell me your honest opinion. Is that the way a mod should address a member? I dont have anything against hydro or Raven but at the same time I do post what I feel is facts and I did answer the op. For a mod to come here and call me names and be rude and tell me to leave the hydro section for the simple fact that I feel that soil produces a better bud is childish at best. I do not try to sway anyones grow style and never will but I am not going to have someone try to shit on me for my opinion and sit here and not respond. I appreciate your willingness to pay this situation some mind. It is nice to see a mod acting the way they are supposed to. Thank you.I understand where you are coming from but you make it sound way more confusing than it has to be. Do you grow hydro? Are you interested in growing hydro? Do you want to see the other side?
As for Raven's lack of hydro experience, that has nothing to do with his capabilities to moderate this forum. Mods are not here to be growing gurus (some just are), they are moderators.
homebrewer
Well-Known Member
A proper hydro setup runs itself. Given the space it takes up and the time it takes to grow, my plants in dirt pots could never yield as well as my hydro girls. Also, the only 'effort' is that of setting up your system. Once the system is in place, timers do all the work. The only real effort I put forth is the weekly res change. To give you an idea of what that's like, 90% of the time it takes to change a res is waiting for the res to drain or fill up. Mixing nutes takes minutes.
My hydro trays take up a 2'x3' space. In that same space, I could fit six dirt plants which would yield 30-40% less. My hydroponically grown plants in veg easily grow twice as fast as my dirt plants and my hydro plants are typically done flowering about a week sooner than my dirt plants.
In regards to quality, I could never tell the difference between a perfectly grown soil vs hydro plant in a blind test. With that being said, the consistency of the quality coming out of my hydro tray is superior to that of my dirt pots. Consistency is very important to me.
In regards to the Cannabis Cup, have you ever grown Greenhouse or Barneys strains before (who both won again this year)? Ever sampled their buds from their shops in Amsterdam? It's pretty clear these days that money wins cups, not quality.
tiredoldman
Active Member
Why am I subjected to an idiot who wants to argue about hydro, I came hear to learn. Seeds fall on the dirt all by themselves. Hydro requires a knowledge base. Can we get back to hydro info?
bigv1976
Well-Known Member
Great post !!!!
WaxxyNuggets
Active Member
HB is on the money, if you have the time to dial in a hydro system with some a higher intial startup, your gonna be pumping out some big tastey frosty girls. If you feel like you will make mistakes and want more time to understand and correct, maybe a soil grow or two will help with diagnosing problems/environment issues. If yield is your concern then hydro will get you more bud in shorter cycles. Either way if you take care of your ladies, they will take care of you. Sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, but I may have missed it with the bickering in the last few pages. 
RavenMochi
Well-Known Member
fair enough.