Why don't you like Ron Paul?

Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Parker said:
You confuse Ron Pauls beliefs with Ron Pauls duty as an elected official. The Federal government should not decide the abortion issue. Period. That's it. No bullshit there. Plain and simple. Follow the Constitution and serve his constiuents. That is what he was elected to do
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I think I understand the problem. Ron Paul mostly follows the constitution. The constitution isn't libertarian. It may share several features though. So that makes Paul a constitutionalist, not libertarian.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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budlover13 said:
A) His suits don't fit him correctly which makes him unelectable because fashion is very important to you.


Well, you do bash him on his lack of fashion sense quite often.
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it's not because fashion is important to me, it is because it tells me he is bad at surrounding himself with competent people.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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lifegoesonbrah said:
So your logic of why you don't like Ron Paul is:

A) His suits don't fit him correctly which makes him unelectable because fashion is very important to you.

B) He says that he believes abortion is immoral but will do nothing to stop the use of the pills.

C) He didn't not allow federally funded heterosexuality programs in his bill proposed in 1980 that never passed.
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Looks like you got it all wrapped up, open and shut case. You have changed my mind, I will now vote for Obama. bongsmilie
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The pills don't always work even when you use them in the short window they are designed for, even if a girl finds out she is pregnant so soon. I'm not an embryologist (neither is Dr. Paul for that matter, obstetrician). From what I do remember in one of my biology classes, the embryo goes through phases that resemble every step in human evolution from protozoa on up. It is about two months in that the head starts to resemble a human head. If it were up to me, an abortion should be considered moral even by the most stringent of standards up to this point. He wants to make only the pill available and send women to jail if they abort a baby that isn't even human yet. Currently, there are partial birth procedures that are fuckin WRONG, murder (my opinion). I think there is room for compromise. A woman should have a right to choice, but she should have more than a few days to make that choice. She should know she is pregnant before the baby is considered human. Again, feel free to pick this apart, it is mostly opinion.
 
budlover13

budlover13

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UncleBuck said:
it's not because fashion is important to me, it is because it tells me he is bad at surrounding himself with competent people.
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Or maybe he would rather spend the money on something that might actually change something? i mean, i can totally believe you aren't a follower of fashion and neither am i, but when i forego the latest trend, it is usually so i can spend my money on something more worthwhile.
 
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NoDrama

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abandonconflict said:
She should know she is pregnant before the baby is considered human. Again, feel free to pick this apart, it is mostly opinion.
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So if they did an autopsy of the aborted fetus at , say 50 days, do you think they will find that it is Giraffe, Monkey, Dog, Cat or human. I'll let you decide.
 
UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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budlover13 said:
Or maybe he would rather spend the money on something that might actually change something? i mean, i can totally believe you aren't a follower of fashion and neither am i, but when i forego the latest trend, it is usually so i can spend my money on something more worthwhile.
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having clothes that fit is not a trend.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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NoDrama said:
So if they did an autopsy of the aborted fetus at , say 50 days, do you think they will find that it is Giraffe, Monkey, Dog, Cat or human. I'll let you decide.
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You sound like a creationist doubting evolution, you sure you want to go down this avenue?
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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Bucky has a point for once in his life. If Ron meant he didn't hate fags, he would've put, "any sexual lifestyle." It's the same way he touts "states rights," as a form of deflection for abortion. But his lover, the Kenyan king, does the same shit too.
 
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NoDrama

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abandonconflict said:
You sound like a creationist doubting evolution, you sure you want to go down this avenue?
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Bring it! You said that a fetus inside a human females body wasn't human until it was more than 8 weeks since conception. I bet I would win the argument hands down no sweat, I wouldn't even need to debate it since your assertion is beyond stupid.
 
Canna Sylvan

Canna Sylvan

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NoDrama said:
Bring it! You said that a fetus inside a human females body wasn't human until it was more than 8 weeks since conception. I bet I would win the argument hands down no sweat, I wouldn't even need to debate it since your assertion is beyond stupid.
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The pro-death movement doesn't consider it human until it makes a crying sound.
 
abandonconflict

abandonconflict

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NoDrama said:
Bring it! You said that a fetus inside a human females body wasn't human until it was more than 8 weeks since conception. I bet I would win the argument hands down no sweat, I wouldn't even need to debate it since your assertion is beyond stupid.
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I didn't say that. Learn to read. I was specific enough that you don't have to dumb down what I said. I said that the embryo goes through phases that resemble each step in evolution and that it is not until about two months in that the head resembles a human head. This is relevant to my opinion. So you can disagree with my opinion, but don't distort facts and say that you are quoting me.
 
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