Why do so many ppl dog Arjan?

yet I looked up mr nice, looks ok. am I right in thinking he had the original cheese?
marketing works wonders.

i grow everglades bud said:

if you like GHS i would recomend that you check out Mr. Nice seed co. this is the original breeder's site who bread white widow and a few of the strains that many of the favorite strains are bread from... check um out , TRY THEIR SHIT!!!NO joke there mr. nice - shit . good shit lol literaly lol

Click to expand...

This is exactly what I clicked onto this thread to say. Skip greenhouse and go witjh shantibaba aka mr nice. His black widow IS the original white widow. Med man is white rhino etc.

yo
fuck nirvana
y i hate it?
cuz they use their own names for strains
like jock horror in stead of jack herer

attitude is the best seedbank choice
like all the seedbanks are listed on it
and has a us dollar conversion

fried at 420 said:

yo
fuck nirvana
y i hate it?
cuz they use their own names for strains
like jock horror in stead of jack herer

attitude is the best seedbank choice
like all the seedbanks are listed on it
and has a us dollar conversion

Click to expand...

I'm personally more impressed that they choose to make clear that their Jock horror is not the original Jack herrer, only a plant with the same parents.
I feel most breeders would simply use the name.

yea but it also doesnt mean its anything like jack herrer. They probably spent no time finding the best best phenotypes of the parents and just mated them to get the strain out for cheap.

Cyproz said:

yea but it also doesnt mean its anything like jack herrer. They probably spent no time finding the best best phenotypes of the parents and just mated them to get the strain out for cheap.

Click to expand...

what do you base this on?

nuera59 said:

yet I looked up mr nice, looks ok. am I right in thinking he had the original cheese?
marketing works wonders.

Click to expand...

There is no original cheese. It is just a way to market and sell seeds. I fucking doubt that there was a strain in the underground for 20 years that just happened to pop up. If you can believe that then let me sell you some seeds.

Luap said:

There is no original cheese. It is just a way to market and sell seeds. I fucking doubt that there was a strain in the underground for 20 years that just happened to pop up. If you can believe that then let me sell you some seeds.

Click to expand...

cheese is a skunk #1 pheno from a pack of sensi's line. it exists and was a lucky find. You can get "the pure", sam the skunkman's line (he sold to sensi) at PotPimp , 10 for $35...look for your own stick bomb cheap

http://www.potpimp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=62&t=726

pinkus

Cyproz said:

yea but it also doesnt mean its anything like jack herrer. They probably spent no time finding the best best phenotypes of the parents and just mated them to get the strain out for cheap.

Click to expand...

I would have to agree with this. And I base it on personal experience. I have grown Nirvana's Jock Horror. If Jack Herrer is some of the dankest bud in the world then indeed they are nothing alike. Even if they have the same parents (which seems highly unlikely to me) something was lost in translation. Jock Horror and the other two Nirvana strains I grew were bland as shit. I realize genetics are never a guarantee and every breeder has good and bad strains but I couldn't find one decent phenotype in the 30 Nirvana beans I had. Whenever I see people defend Nirvana I think I must have gotten the shittiest batches of beans they ever made.

mared juwan said:

I would have to agree with this. And I base it on personal experience. I have grown Nirvana's Jock Horror. If Jack Herrer is some of the dankest bud in the world then indeed they are nothing alike. Even if they have the same parents (which seems highly unlikely to me) something was lost in translation. Jock Horror and the other two Nirvana strains I grew were bland as shit. I realize genetics are never a guarantee and every breeder has good and bad strains but I couldn't find one decent phenotype in the 30 Nirvana beans I had. Whenever I see people defend Nirvana I think I must have gotten the shittiest batches of beans they ever made.

Click to expand...

If I may quote your smoke report of jock horror.

Nirvana Jock Horror
permalink
Strain: Nirvana Jock Horror
Growth: Short with few leaves. Buds form towers of calyxes in late flower.
Grow Medium: Coco coir and worm casting mix
Nutes: AN Monkey Juice, Overdrive
Avg flower time: 74 days
Yield: Even lower branches form large and dense buds making it a very good yielder.
Bag Appeal: Very frosty with a bluish tint. 8.5 out of 10
Smell: Juicy fruit gum.
Taste: The flavor is less sweet than the smell and almost exactly like a sour grapefruit. Very exotic.
The High: Energetic happy stone
Comments: The exotic smell and flavor of this strain combined with the rewarding yield make it worth waiting over 10 weeks for it to finish.

Click to expand...

Sounds pretty favorable for a bland strain if I do say so.

So which is it?
Did you lie in the smoke report, or are you lying now? and why?

I'm not trying to be a dick, but when you post things that contradict each other I need to know which is the truth.

SpruceZeus said:

If I may quote your smoke report of jock horror.

Sounds pretty favorable for a bland strain if I do say so.

So which is it?
Did you lie in the smoke report, or are you lying now? and why?

I'm not trying to be a dick, but when you post things that contradict each other I need to know which is the truth.

Click to expand...

You ARE trying to be a dick. Don't be too much of a pussy to admit it. I wrote those Nirvana grow reports when those were the only strains I had ever grown and I didn't know any better. If I could erase the threads or edit the first post I would but they were written too long ago. I wasn't lying and for saying so. Don't be an asshole just because someone disagrees with you.

fried at 420 said:

yo
fuck nirvana
y i hate it?
cuz they use their own names for strains
like jock horror in stead of jack herer

attitude is the best seedbank choice
like all the seedbanks are listed on it
and has a us dollar conversion

Click to expand...

Let me get this right you hate nirvana cause they don't lie to sell there product? are you on crack!

mared juwan said:

You ARE trying to be a dick. Don't be too much of a pussy to admit it. I wrote those Nirvana grow reports when those were the only strains I had ever grown and I didn't know any better. If I could erase the threads or edit the first post I would but they were written too long ago. I wasn't lying and for saying so. Don't be an asshole just because someone disagrees with you.

Click to expand...

Dude, Chill.
When someone writes two contradictory statements it's only natural to wonder which one they actually believe.
That looks pretty good to me. But what do I know? I'm just a dick, and an asshole.

I don't really understand what would make someone completely switch opinions. Can you enlighten me as to the source of your newfound distaste for nirvana?
Problems with the plant?
Bad experiece with the company?
Or did you just decide after growing more strains that theirs were not up to snuff?

I'm seriously not trying to be a dick, I've got some jocks of my own just flipped into flowering so I'll see for myself what I think of the strain. I was just looking for straight answers is all.

You're right, I apologize for being short but I took objection at the use of the word "lying" as if I was purposely deceiving people. I'm sure you understand how that might rub someone the wrong way. The way you worded your post just seemed to be purposely offensive at the time.

SpruceZeus said:

Or did you just decide after growing more strains that theirs were not up to snuff?

Click to expand...

That's what happened. The first strains I ever grew were Nirvana. You see the three grow reports there. They were written quite some time ago. Naturally I was super excited just to be smoking my own herb and where I live it was still the best around. Then I tried a breeder named Cannacopia. These guys have Deep Chunk males they got from Tom Hills himself that they use to cross with the most potent cuts like Bubba Kush and C99 and BC Roadkill Skunk. I was blown away at the difference. You've seen all my Nirvana pics. None of it looked quite like this.

















Also I find it funny to be discussing Nirvana only in this "Arjan" thread when I have grown Green House as well. Might as well toss in my two cents on that one... if you can trust me now LOL. Just messin. I grew out the five beans in their Indica Mix H feminized pack. The only one I found that was on the level with the Cannacopia gear was Great White Shark. That is a killer strain. The others were just OK, much like Nirvana. Some pleasurable but very mellow flavors. I want that super dank smell through the bag stink up your whole house type stuff.

i like cannacopia and i like jock horror.would put them against any thing else.the best of cannacopia and nirvana would stand up against anything else out their,im on my second order of cannacopia,i was choosing between cannacopia,klondike or tga.it was cannacopia all the way baby.35 dollars and standup genetics.plus i love that rich colored deep chunk.they aint pretty but as tough as my old work boots.

Mared, appologies for using the word "lie" sometimes I find myself stirring shit up for no reason in peticular. I've got no beef, Peace and love!


Some glowing reviews of cannacopia it seems. I might have to take a closer look.

This ^^^ looks real frosty!!! What strain am I looking at there?

I want that super dank smell through the bag stink up your whole house type stuff.

Click to expand...

If you care to have another go at greenhouse's gear, try the church. It's one of my favorite plants!!! Really stanky, stinky dope. Thick, delicious flavour!!!

And pretty damn dense for something they sell as anti-mold. 9 weeks will make for some nice mature nugs that will impress pretty much anyone.

Awesome, I much prefer sharing information to arguing. That pic you inquired about is their "Bubba's Kush." It's a Pre 98 Bubba cut crossed to their Deep Chunk. One thing that I've noticed as I try more and more breeders is that it seems IN GENERAL that the more potent buds will come from smaller yeilding plants. I stress "in general" as there are a few exceptions to the rule. But this Bubba Kush is the most potent bud I've grown and also the smallest yielding so it is not one of those exceptions. If you grow the Bubba's Kush do not expect any massive colas. You will need topping/fimming/lst to encourage as many budsites as possible. But not all of Cannacopia's strains are small yielding. That BC Roadkill (the dark purple one) is quite a good yielder and also more than adequate in the potency department. I guess what separated the Cannacopia strains from Nirvana the most for me is the smell. The Cannacopia gear is so pungent and musty and dank smelling and the Nirvana was mostly fruity smelling. Maybe I'm just finding out I'm not a fan of fruity weed. I like skunky, musty, coffee type flavors a lot more. I might have a go at that Church even though I just started germing some subcool beans. The Great White Shark has definitely impressed me enough to give Green House another try.

it really is hard to find a big yielder and the most potent,my most potent was a god bud,but it yielded shit.

trapper said:

it really is hard to find a big yielder and the most potent,my most potent was a god bud,but it yielded shit.

Click to expand...

My most potent is a special bagseed phenotype I've been growing for years, surprise surprise, not a big yielder.
So far the best compramise I've found has been Nirvana's White Rhino. However, it is a seriously narcotic high, not for the faint of heart. I've been smoking myself to sleep with this stuff alot lately.

Despite it's fluent ass-kickery, this stuff leaves a little to be desired in the bag appeal dept.

I mean its pretty nice looking, but nowhere near something like that Kush.

Certainly can't complain about the yields though.

i have the green house white rhino and it aint going any were,it stays with the chemo and they do a lot of mating,and their kids are champs,you wouldnt believe how stable they are its funky.