Why do my clones keep doing this

XENONFORCE

XENONFORCE

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So I cut these about a week ago used clonex in my water that i soak my pete moss cubes in and used clonex rooting gel I must 2 times a day and keep temp at about 82 degrees I am using a sun systems sunblaze 48 8 lamp t5 fixture also keeping them under a dome but this is the second tray in 3 weeks that I have lost please help
 

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jarvild

jarvild

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You've left to much foliage on them for one , I root my clones under 2 26 watt cfl's so that seems like a lot of light for clones, How close is your lighting
 
phil k

phil k

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yeah he's right in the beginning you don't want extreme light with clones i put mine under 24" t-5 generally 1 bulb the first week then i turn on two or three.. and definitely too much foliage for the plant to have to deal with along with rooting. the other thing is your himidity .. gnenerally humidomes are best for clones ...but they will always slouch really bad without higher humidity levels.
 
jarvild

jarvild

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You want the plants to root not try to grow vegetative yet. I would cut them down some and retry.
 
XENONFORCE

XENONFORCE

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phil k said:
yeah he's right in the beginning you don't want extreme light with clones i put mine under 24" t-5 generally 1 bulb the first week then i turn on two or three.. and definitely too much foliage for the plant to have to deal with along with rooting. the other thing is your himidity .. gnenerally humidomes are best for clones ...but they will always slouch really bad without higher humidity levels.
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How should i raise the humdity in there
 
phil k

phil k

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put a heat mat under the tray it looks like you have a humidome top in the back right of that pic am i right?
 
phil k

phil k

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another way is put the dome top on, put a heat mat under the tray and put a small amount (1/4 c.) water in the base and let the heat mat warm that to create humidity in the dome. .. i personally use back heating pads for my clones because the seedling mats bearly warm the tray and they seem to go bad fast ..
 
XENONFORCE

XENONFORCE

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phil k said:
another way is put the dome top on, put a heat mat under the tray and put a small amount (1/4 c.) water in the base and let the heat mat warm that to create humidity in the dome. .. i personally use back heating pads for my clones because the seedling mats bearly warm the tray and they seem to go bad fast ..
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Cool thank you
 
jarvild

jarvild

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Even with misting and higher humidity levels you'll still have a hard time keeping turgidity in them.
 
phil k

phil k

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yep if you buy a back heating pad make sure you get one thats #1 XL the extra large ones are the exact length of clone trays and get one that doesnt have auto shut off other wise it will kick off after a hour of being on and you want it to run all the time on low.
 
phil k

phil k

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jarvild said:
Even with misting and higher humidity levels you'll still have a hard time keeping turgidity in them.
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yep i agree they needed to be trimmed... i wouldn't even fuss with misting when you do the humidome thing right with a warm pad under it theres zero need for humidity supplementing the root cubes alone will sweat enough moisture into the humidome cover.
 
jarvild

jarvild

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If you want to do big clones you'll either need to air layering or a power cloner of some sort
 
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THE KONASSURE

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cut them shorter next time

feeding elixir steroids by evoponic or "motherkare" to the mum really helps the clones take faster, I`m not sure what pgr`s they use but they work, maybe ga3 or something else

but yeah anything you notice that makes the mum grow taller faster that`ll normally help the clones root too

plus stuff from lower down the mum will root faster, lower cuttings take 1 to 2 weeks to root higher nodes can take 3 to 4 weeks to root
 
phil k

phil k

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im not sure how your system goes I'm sorry if this is jumbled its a lot to type but ill put how i do clones on here for you might help out a bit cause they aren't looking super hearty right now.


so first thing take the clones and cut them down the center and then take the razor blade and very lightly scuff the outer edge of the cuttings lower stem where you dip it into the clone solution ... thats going to give your plant more rooting zones. after dipping it put it into the cube (directly out of the pack don't soak them) put it in the tray repeat that over and over till your done. the bottom tray you have under the cell tray.. fill that up 3/4 of the way with plain water (for the first time) put the 72 cell back in the water and let them soak for 5 minutes no longer you don't wanna soak them ... dump the water out put the dome and everything back together and put them in your room under one single light with a heating pad under them on medium heat the first week... after 7 days switch it to low heat. every day go down take the lid off for 10 minute to let them breath put the dome back on and leave it on. once every 3-4 days soak the tray again as done before above... but this time take your water and add clone x solution to it.. where i am at my water PH is about 7.3 so in a 5 gallon bucket i can do about 5 cap full of clonex solution into a 5 gallon bucket and the PH generally comes to 6.4 ish... i do two clone x waters and then one fresh clean water repeating the cycle till they are rooted.. and keep the dome on them all the time... generally 14 days after cutting everything rooted with little to no loss.... but that time frame also depends on the age of your mom and where you got the cuts from .

the humidity and warm root zones are important for the cubes your rooting in
 
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