Why Did Bush Knock Down The Towers?

We TaRdED

We TaRdED

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SocataSmoker said:
What is this truth you think is truth is actually lies? You wouldn't know it. So an MIT engineer and an architect is all you have? Where are the 1000's of other architect's... what about the victims of the 1000's who died, don't you think if the government was behind this, that it would already be known by now by everyone... at least a million out of the 6 billion?


Truth revolutions only happen if it is the truth, perhaps that's why it's been 7 years now and nothing has been said... it's not truth! People will say what they believe but to think our country was in on 9/11 is ridiculous. I believe they had suspicions but unfortunately did not take them seriously... the guys in the cockpits of those aircraft were suicidal towelheads, they weren't US agents and they didn't give a shit about Bush. You have many links yes... links don't mean shit though, not unless that link is from a major organization that has just found proof of US involvement in 9/11... say an organization such as the ACLU, or the many lawyers working on behalf of the families that lost someone during the attacks.


It's kind of like the moon thing, if it were found to be a government plot... it would've blown up by now and would be over every news network and quite possibly we'd have an immediate revolution. Until then, the truth revolution you speak of is nothing more than a theory revolution... one that in 7 years hasn't taken place yet, don't you wonder why? Hint, it's not because American's don't care or are uneducated... :peace: You know me man, we agree on much, but some things are just too much. As I said, show me something besides crazed Youtubist's who hate the government posting videos of what they think is an inside job... it's like preaching to the choir.
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Remind me to get back to that. You haven't heard of "false flag attacks" or "Operation Northwoods"?
I'll get back to that later tonight when I have time...

About the moon landing thing, I clearly stated that I wasn't sure about it and I was simply looking for peer review on my postulates. If I was wrong about it, then so be it- I don't mind being wrong- but I was simply trying to educate myself on the subject. :mrgreen:

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SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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Yes I have... and it also mentions specifically:

"Members of the 9/11 Truth Movement often use Operation Northwoods as an example of the US government's willingness to stage terrorist attacks to achieve its political goals. The Operation is mentioned in the 9/11 conspiracy film Loose Change."

I'm starting to wonder if there's a training syllabus that details certain events that further the unpatriotic mindset... Northwoods was completely different in the fact that Cubans never attacked us. While on the other hand we have victims in the aircraft on their cellphones describing people of Middle Eastern descent hijacking an aircraft, we have them on the voice recorder praising Allah and reciting prayer while they crash the aircraft. Why don't they show video of the aircraft crashing into the Pentagon? Because I don't think that's something the American people want to see... unless you're sick and twisted or think it's a gov't conspiracy, also no amateur cameraman caught it unlike the attacks on the WTC's... so the video is property of the government, I have videos I don't want people seeing too :hump:
 
ToastedFox

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SocataSmoker said:
Yes I have... and it also mentions specifically:

"Members of the 9/11 Truth Movement often use Operation Northwoods as an example of the US government's willingness to stage terrorist attacks to achieve its political goals. The Operation is mentioned in the 9/11 conspiracy film Loose Change."

I'm starting to wonder if there's a training syllabus that details certain events that further the unpatriotic mindset... Northwoods was completely different in the fact that Cubans never attacked us. While on the other hand we have victims in the aircraft on their cellphones describing people of Middle Eastern descent hijacking an aircraft, we have them on the voice recorder praising Allah and reciting prayer while they crash the aircraft. Why don't they show video of the aircraft crashing into the Pentagon? Because I don't think that's something the American people want to see... unless you're sick and twisted or think it's a gov't conspiracy, also no amateur cameraman caught it unlike the attacks on the WTC's... so the video is property of the government, I have videos I don't want people seeing too :hump:
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I think its just hard for some people to accept that maybe bad politics was the reason this happened to America. It just happened to be we had the over-zeilest Bush in office when it happened and he took advantage of the momentum to invade Iraq.
 
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gphilly77

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SocataSmoker said:
Yes I have... and it also mentions specifically:

"Members of the 9/11 Truth Movement often use Operation Northwoods as an example of the US government's willingness to stage terrorist attacks to achieve its political goals. The Operation is mentioned in the 9/11 conspiracy film Loose Change."

I'm starting to wonder if there's a training syllabus that details certain events that further the unpatriotic mindset... Northwoods was completely different in the fact that Cubans never attacked us. While on the other hand we have victims in the aircraft on their cellphones describing people of Middle Eastern descent hijacking an aircraft, we have them on the voice recorder praising Allah and reciting prayer while they crash the aircraft. Why don't they show video of the aircraft crashing into the Pentagon? Because I don't think that's something the American people want to see... unless you're sick and twisted or think it's a gov't conspiracy, also no amateur cameraman caught it unlike the attacks on the WTC's... so the video is property of the government, I have videos I don't want people seeing too :hump:
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There is video of the plane hitting the pentagon...so let's pretend it was all a big trick by Bush to get us into war w/ Iraq & A-stan.

If that is that case, then please explain the detailed history of the hijackers who trained in Central Florida @ Emmry to fly large jets? That was made up I guess? Or the training of all members of the attack years prior to the attack. Guess you need to blame that on Clinton cause Bush was not even in office when the planning of the attack happened. Lets roll time back to 1993
 
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bonghits4all

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SocataSmoker said:
What is this truth you think is truth is actually lies? You wouldn't know it. So an MIT engineer and an architect is all you have? Where are the 1000's of other architect's... what about the victims of the 1000's who died, don't you think if the government was behind this, that it would already be known by now by everyone... at least a million out of the 6 billion?


Truth revolutions only happen if it is the truth, perhaps that's why it's been 7 years now and nothing has been said... it's not truth! People will say what they believe but to think our country was in on 9/11 is ridiculous. I believe they had suspicions but unfortunately did not take them seriously... the guys in the cockpits of those aircraft were suicidal towelheads, they weren't US agents and they didn't give a shit about Bush. You have many links yes... links don't mean shit though, not unless that link is from a major organization that has just found proof of US involvement in 9/11... say an organization such as the ACLU, or the many lawyers working on behalf of the families that lost someone during the attacks.


It's kind of like the moon thing, if it were found to be a government plot... it would've blown up by now and would be over every news network and quite possibly we'd have an immediate revolution. Until then, the truth revolution you speak of is nothing more than a theory revolution... one that in 7 years hasn't taken place yet, don't you wonder why? Hint, it's not because American's don't care or are uneducated... :peace: You know me man, we agree on much, but some things are just too much. As I said, show me something besides crazed Youtubist's who hate the government posting videos of what they think is an inside job... it's like preaching to the choir.
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every thing here. ill debate any and all facts you have whats that you dont have any. thought not and dirtyshawa wheres that adress punk
 
SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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Exactly.

Waleed Al Sheri graduated from Embry-Riddle in '97... long before the attacks began. The others went to a less prestigious flight school, Huffman Aviation in Venice, FL. Anyone from anywhere can goto a US flight school and learn to fly regardless of anything except criminal history. If I were a terrorist leader, I'd make sure my men got the best training too.
 
SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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bonghits4all said:
every thing here. ill debate any and all facts you have whats that you dont have any. thought not and dirtyshawa wheres that adress punk
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Facts about...? You lost me there. :confused: Do you want me to get the family tree of the terrorists to prove they weren't linked to the US?
 
SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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ToastedFox said:
I think its just hard for some people to accept that maybe bad politics was the reason this happened to America. It just happened to be we had the over-zeilest Bush in office when it happened and he took advantage of the momentum to invade Iraq.
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Well put, and I agree 100%.
 
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bonghits4all

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let it go this has allready gone on too long its moronic and sphomoric.its the hate and arguments that insue that fuels these idiots. you could tell they are just children who dont know anything. and dirtyshawa WHERES THE ADRESS YOU PROMISED ME?
 
SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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bonghits4all said:
its actually from pages ago.this thread in my opnion has run its course and should be closed.
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Ah ok good, for a sec I thought you were calling me a child! I was like *wags finger* nuh uh! I'm rubber, you're glue, whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you! :hump::blsmoke:
 
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bonghits4all

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ahhh read back now before posting a elite member should know this. i agree with the patriots here. not the conspiricy theroy people.
 
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gphilly77

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This whole discusion is pointless I agree...the point is that 9/11 happened. The events leading up to the attack had been long in the making before Bush or even Clinton came into office. The problem is that our gov didn't recognize the issue soon enough to address it in time.

There is a long list of strikes against US and international interested before the 2001 attacks.

These events built the foundation on which a group of terrorists were able to get flight training in the US, get through our lax TA personnel, and then hijack large planes and fly them into buildings...

Let's not forget that the very attack on the Pentagon was detailed in the Turner Diaries printed in 1978.
 
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pokerbrat

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yes, and as he read he was told about the attack and sat ther and continued reading the book.. are you kidding me? a perfect alibi for the perfect solution for bush to invade the oil countries.
i am not saying he did it, i don't think he is smart enough to think that up, but i wouldn't put it past the puppet master Cheney. but it was a dream come true for bush and chenney



Johnnyorganic said:
The September 11, 2001 attacks (often referred to as 9/11) were a series of coordinated homicide attacks by al-Qaeda upon the U.S.

Bush was in Florida reading to schoolchildren. I have yet to see him on any surveillance tapes giving instructions to the murderers acting on orders from spiritual leaders of their religion of peace.
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SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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bonghits4all said:
ahhh read back now before posting a elite member should know this. i agree with the patriots here. not the conspiricy theroy people.
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I did read lol, just misunderstood your quote I guess... :blsmoke:

"every thing here. ill debate any and all facts you have whats that you dont have any."

Just took that as you asking me to state my facts hehe... it's okay man! I still love you :hump:
 
SocataSmoker

SocataSmoker

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pokerbrat said:
yes, and as he read he was told about the attack and sat ther and continued reading the book..
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Well I wouldn't want to announce to a class of little kids that aircraft were being crashed by terrorists all over the country either... I think he handled it fine. What happened had already happened, nothing he could do by jumping up and saying "sorry kids I got president stuff to do!" that would've made an immediate difference.
 
Johnnyorganic

Johnnyorganic

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pokerbrat said:
yes, and as he read he was told about the attack and sat ther and continued reading the book..
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When the first plane hit, no one knew what was happening. Bush was informed, but there was no reason for alarm over a tragic accident. It was when the 2nd plane hit that Bush was notified of a possible terrorist attack and very quickly removed.

pokerbrat said:
are you kidding me? a perfect alibi for the perfect solution for bush to invade the oil countries.
i am not saying he did it, i don't think he is smart enough to think that up, but i wouldn't put it past the puppet master Cheney. but it was a dream come true for bush and chenney
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You don't think he did it because he's too stupid, but he went along with it because he's evil? Is that right?

If 9-11 were over oil one might assume we would at least be paying 9-11 gas prices. The administration wouldn't take so much heat over gas prices if Bush/Cheny had that much control.
 
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