NietzscheKeen
Well-Known Member
[video=youtube;H6xCtNZMAnU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6xCtNZMAnU[/video]
Why are conspiracy theorists so dumb?
- Thread starter loquacious
- Start date
- Status
[video=youtube;H6xCtNZMAnU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6xCtNZMAnU[/video]
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
So if they raise the amount they are killing us?
If they keep it the same...well they are already killing us with it right?
And if they lower it then it is a smoke screen and you are still sure we are getting a proper dose?
So let me get this straight, no matter what their action is, it is malicious and done to hurt/control us? More, less, the same, it all points to being fluorided to death?
Conspiracy theorists are purposely made out to look like crazy, uneducated, paranoid people by the mainstream media because it persuades people into believing that, which makes it easier for people to just write them off when someone speaks out against the wrongdoings of those in power. If you speak out against the government nowadays, you're deemed a terrorist. That's tyranny. The power is supposed to be in the hands of the people, but everyone has been brainwashed and scared into submission ever since 9/11. Now the government wants to know when you take a piss... "for your own protection". How many terrorists has the TSA stopped since 9/11? Oh yeah, none. Have you ever heard of Edward Snowden? Ever researched the Bilderberg group? These aren't conspiracies, they are facts that are deliberately being shunned by the media. Instead, they constantly talk about some black kid being shot rather than things that truly matter in this world.
Go do some simple research on fluoride, it's my not job to educate you on everything you're misinformed about. If you have any intuition or ability to think for yourself, start researching into this stuff with an open mind.
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
It explains right in your link what those items are used for. We literally had this exact same conversation back in march in the GMO thread. In fact here is a series of quotes from that thread:
I see you have not done anymore research outside of naturalnews, or are choosing to remain ignorant. I'm not sure why you keep repeatedly bringing up formaldehyde.
I only focussed on debunking this one specific point in the other thread, but a quick google search will provide you with plenty of real information that completely debunks nearly everything jtprin claims.
Firstoffallen
Active Member
Yea pretty much i dont think it would be right away tho we could always manually pollinate crops and wind would still help. BUT no bees is scary thought
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
Blah blah blah. Look at post #84. There is nothing that will, or even possibly could change the mind of those 2 people. They are convinced that fluoride is bad, and putting it in the water is bad. Or reducing its level in water is bad. Or leaving it out is bad. Anything to do with it, or not, is bad and proof of the conspiracy. It's unfalsifiable. It's more than just unfalsifiable, because no matter what happens it adds further "proof" to the theory. Isn't it painfully obvious to everyone that it is not an external source making those guys look bad or crazy?
You're delusional if you think naturalnews is the only place where they show how detrimental vaccines are. Yeah, they say that it makes the vaccines work better without providing any type of evidence. Injecting neurotoxins into your bloodstream is NEVER healthy. Why do I keep bringing up formaldehyde?
http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/substances/toxsubstance.asp?toxid=39 Cancer Effects: Known to be a Human Carcinogen
http://ntp.niehs.nih.gov/?objectid=03C9AF75-E1BF-FF40-DBA9EC0928DF8B15
http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/factsheet/Risk/formaldehyde
Besides, even if we assume that formaldehyde is completely safe in vaccines, how do you explain the MSG, mercury, and aluminum? All proven neurotoxins. Disregarding naturalnews solely because you have some type of issue with the website doesn't discredit the factual information posted there. They have links and sources to most of their claims, you just have to read. Unvaccinated children are also much healthier than vaccinated kids. http://www.naturalnews.com/036220_vaccinated_children_disease_allergies.html#ixzz1yDRjAEan I'd post the direct sources but PDF's freeze my computer.
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
The evidence is overwhelming in favor of vaccination. And you are immediately doing it again, making statements that it is NEVER healthy to inject a neurotoxin (by which you are referring to formaldehyde) followed by some fact sheets. I made a bunch of posts explaining why that is a fallacy, and I even quoted them all again in this thread. Did you even read them? How do you refute my statements? You are so god damn concerned with "facts" that you don't even stop to consider the context. The amount of formaldehyde in a vaccine is LESS than the amount that is naturally occurring in your body right now. It is also less than is naturally occurring in an apple. Not some GMO radioactive apple. A normal organic apple has more formaldehyde than a vaccine.
More deaths are attributed to water than to formaldehyde. Does it follow logically that it is NEVER ok to put water into your body? No it's utter nonsense and you can immediately see why it is.
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
That's like saying I should not discredit that drunk homeless guy ranting on the street because one time he actually gave me solid information. But 99% of the time it's incoherent rambling. That is what natural news is like. When they do have source you can be pretty certain that the author of the article has not only misinterpreted his source material but he had prior bias before writing the article. I have seen too much nonsense from that site to ever take it seriously. It might as well be alexjones.com
kinetic
Well-Known Member
guy, you didn't know about the water conspiracy? Yes water can kill you, that's why every home comes equipped with more than one way to access it. They wanted us all to drink too much water and become drunk and die on it. You see that was apart of their plan to hold us down...
Ya see when that didn't work they added flouride to our water in the "massive" amount of 1ppm, ya know, the whole 5 deaths of flourosis since '44 and they are well on their way.
Anyone else think jprin has yellow teeth?
Ya see when that didn't work they added flouride to our water in the "massive" amount of 1ppm, ya know, the whole 5 deaths of flourosis since '44 and they are well on their way.
Anyone else think jprin has yellow teeth?
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
Ok I read the article you posted.
First read flag is the first sentence:
They had suspicions. I have my doubts someone sat down to write this article without an agenda. I got my shit guards up to watch for bias now.
The first study they talk about is currently on going. In fact they have a link to the website where you ca go put your own personal experience in. Instead of an unbiased sample population you have only people that go to vaccineinjury.info, or have been redirected by another website like naturalnews. I would hardly consider self reporting a questionnaire over the internet as evidence.
If you follow the first source they even state as much:
Homeopathic (read: bullshit) practioner. Red flag number...I have lost count.
The second study they talk about (the pdf you can't access) was a survey done in new zealand in 1992. Again a self reported questionaire that was distributed to 246 familes.
I'm sorry but i'm just not convinced. I have seen far more evidence to the contrary.
So if the life of a black kid doesn't matter in your world could you share with me the categories that do? Just spit balling but how does this make you feel, "they constantly talk about MY KID being shot....."
Consciously changing one's referential frame often enables one to gain empathy for a group they do not identify with. I highly recommend it.
How the hell would you know how much formaldehyde is put into the vaccines? Because the people administering and profiting off them told you so? Besides, ingesting isn't the same thing as injecting. Again, just because you're close-minded and automatically reject anything from naturalnews doesn't disprove the factual information they publish. They're not perfect and have made mistakes in the past, but who hasn't?
And I'll ask this question again, what do you have to say about the mercury, MSG, and aluminum? And where is the evidence that vaccines have eradicated ANY diseases? Take polio for example... http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html. Vaccines did not save us or extend our lifespan... cleaner water, better hygiene, easier access to food, technological advancements, better living conditions, etc. are why we live longer. Of course the pharmaceutical industry is going to claim they're safe and recommend everyone get them... they make HUGE PROFITS off vaccines.
http://genesgreenbook.com/content/proof-vaccines-didnt-save-us
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article.htm
Why do people who have been vaccinated still get diseases?
Edit: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7400043/Whooping-cough-vaccine-ineffective-study
Why has over $2 billion been awarded to vaccine victims by the federal government?
It's not that his life is unimportant, it's that the world doesn't need to constantly be updated on every little detail of the case. Situations like this happen every single day across the world, people only care about the Trayvon Martin situation because it's on their T.V. What about the innocent people who die everyday due to war, genocide, and poverty? How about the billions of animals that are slaughtered each year? Or the honeybees that are dying by the millions?
UncleBuck
Well-Known Member
guy incognito
Well-Known Member
How the hell would you know how much formaldehyde is put into the vaccines?
From the FDA.
http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm093833.htm
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#t3
Because the people administering and profiting off them told you so?
The stuff physically exists. It's not secret why the formaldehyde is there or how much. This sentence demonstrates why I think you are a conspiracy theorist.
Besides, ingesting isn't the same thing as injecting.
Read this:
http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2012/04/demystifying-vaccine-ingredients.html
Again, just because you're close-minded and automatically reject anything from naturalnews doesn't disprove the factual information they publish. They're not perfect and have made mistakes in the past, but who hasn't?
I have given them plenty of chances. Once I fully check into their sources and check out the data for myself I come to a different interpretation. There is making mistakes and there is being disingenuous. Naturalnews does both.
And I'll ask this question again, what do you have to say about the mercury, MSG, and aluminum? And where is the evidence that vaccines have eradicated ANY diseases? Take polio for example... http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html. Vaccines did not save us or extend our lifespan... cleaner water, better hygiene, easier access to food, technological advancements, better living conditions, etc. are why we live longer. Of course the pharmaceutical industry is going to claim they're safe and recommend everyone get them... they make HUGE PROFITS off vaccines.
http://genesgreenbook.com/content/proof-vaccines-didnt-save-us
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article.htm
Why do people who have been vaccinated still get diseases?
Edit: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7400043/Whooping-cough-vaccine-ineffective-study
Why has over $2 billion been awarded to vaccine victims by the federal government?
I don't have time to fully address the rest of this tonight. I will respond in a day or two.
From the FDA.
http://www.fda.gov/biologicsbloodvaccines/vaccines/approvedproducts/ucm093833.htm
http://www.fda.gov/BiologicsBloodVaccines/SafetyAvailability/VaccineSafety/UCM096228#t3
Because the people administering and profiting off them told you so?
The stuff physically exists. It's not secret why the formaldehyde is there or how much. This sentence demonstrates why I think you are a conspiracy theorist.
Besides, ingesting isn't the same thing as injecting.
Read this:
http://www.harpocratesspeaks.com/2012/04/demystifying-vaccine-ingredients.html
Again, just because you're close-minded and automatically reject anything from naturalnews doesn't disprove the factual information they publish. They're not perfect and have made mistakes in the past, but who hasn't?
I have given them plenty of chances. Once I fully check into their sources and check out the data for myself I come to a different interpretation. There is making mistakes and there is being disingenuous. Naturalnews does both.
And I'll ask this question again, what do you have to say about the mercury, MSG, and aluminum? And where is the evidence that vaccines have eradicated ANY diseases? Take polio for example... http://www.whale.to/vaccine/polio1.html. Vaccines did not save us or extend our lifespan... cleaner water, better hygiene, easier access to food, technological advancements, better living conditions, etc. are why we live longer. Of course the pharmaceutical industry is going to claim they're safe and recommend everyone get them... they make HUGE PROFITS off vaccines.
http://genesgreenbook.com/content/proof-vaccines-didnt-save-us
http://childhealthsafety.wordpress.com/graphs/
http://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/6/5/00-0512_article.htm
Why do people who have been vaccinated still get diseases?
Edit: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3170075/
http://www.stuff.co.nz/auckland/local-news/7400043/Whooping-cough-vaccine-ineffective-study
Why has over $2 billion been awarded to vaccine victims by the federal government?
I don't have time to fully address the rest of this tonight. I will respond in a day or two.
The FDA also claims that diet has no impact on disease prevention. "The disclaimer must also state that this product is not intended to "diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease," because only a drug can legally make such a claim" (http://www.fda.gov/Food/DietarySupplements/QADietarySupplements/#validates) They are openly telling the public that their drugs are the only way to treat, cure, or prevent disease. You honestly believe the FDA?... the one's who profit from big pharma and all their pharmaceuticals/vaccines... COME ON, MAN!
As far as formaldehyde goes, even if we assume the levels are 100% completely safe, how is it safe and healthy to inject myself with mercury, MSG, and aluminum? That $2 billion the federal government has had to give to vaccine victims speaks louder than their bullshit propaganda.
As far as formaldehyde goes, even if we assume the levels are 100% completely safe, how is it safe and healthy to inject myself with mercury, MSG, and aluminum? That $2 billion the federal government has had to give to vaccine victims speaks louder than their bullshit propaganda.
- Status