WhoDat back at it.

Swamp Thing · Jan 16, 2013

Great thread WhoDat!

I think this may be my first subscription at Roll It Up. Glad to join the Who Dat Nation fan club on RollItUp :hump:

Got a few things going myself (hope you don't mind my sharing):

2 crosses of my own from this past year
Jam Rock: Jamaican Lambsbread x Haterade
Haterade: (Afwreck x Afgooey/SourDiesel-ibl)x(Afwreck x Afgooey/SourDiesel-ibl)

Afgooey x Sour Diesel-ibl is also known as Chrystal Trident by Bodhi. A special male was found by a buddy, mini, and he used it on the famous Afwreck clone that was going around the Bay Area pre-2010.

The Jam Rock is something special. Fat calyxes and unmistakable Jamaican Lambsbread flavor of acrid mango & spices. The Haterade should add extra citrus tang (from the Twreck in the Afwreck) with more of a syrupy sweet smell (from the Maui in the Afgooey), as those are his traits that he squirts and passes on to everyone.

Yo Momma F2s by Rusty Jay
Yo Mama by bodhi = Afgooey X Appalachia (originally crossed by our boy Bodhi!)
Appalachia (one of Bodhi's main breeding males)= Green Crack x Tres Dawg

sw@nk's:
Purple Diesel x Malawi Gold

(and thinking about these)
Sunshine Daydream F2s

The Malawi Gold male, found by sw@nk, was a triploid. I very much look forward to growing out it's progeny as this male was used on the Purple Diesel, Girl Scout Cookies, and Chem 4. Hope to find a nice "African Golden Diesel" aka the Chem 4 x Malawi

Can't wait to see this progress.

Also, love the mix. Very similar to mine. Hope it's cool if I list it along with what's on deck in the batters box for me right now
Roughly 1/3 Compost 1/3 Pro-Mix Myco 1/3 Sunshine Mix Perlite
Additives include:
Boogie Brew (http://www.boogiebrew.com/ ) - a buddy started this company and I've found the vegan tea mix to be great. Both as an dry additive and mix to make high quality tea.
Bone Meal - High in Phosphorus (P) for da buds
Fish Meal - High in Nitrogen (N) for general vegetative growth and decent Phosphorus (P)
Dolomite Lime - High in Calcium (Ca) and Magnesium (Mg). Balances pH of the mix as well as keeps the stems and structure strong (thanks to the Ca) as well as keeps it generally healthy, a major quality of the Mg
Kelp - High in Potassium (K)

Also, remember, this is a rough recipe for my Swampy Soil... depending on what organic additives I put into my compost, I decide what to goes into the final potting mix.
Kelp is something I've find pretty clutch for the mix because I've found K (potassium) and organic root structure to be very much supported by each other.

My liquid feed mix consists of
Hygrozyme
Fossil Fuel (the best humic product IMO bc of how much humics are in it, you can mix your own "Liquid Karma" or whatever with this stuff. http://www.planetnatural.com/site/fossil-fuel.html )
Carbs & Sugars usually use Blackstrap Molasses or straight up Brown Sugar
when needed I'll toss some Pure Blend Pro - Bloom (in peak bloom, though bone meal usually has more than enough Phos for me... so not usually)

Hope all is well Who Dat!

Bobotrank · Jan 16, 2013

whodatnation said:
Bobo youll be happy to here Gary is back at least I think its him, he seems smaller and has some damage on his tail , and he is bright green now! Actually I know its him..... Giving me tha fookin eye lol

Careful, could be his friend Ace... you'll know if he looks a little... wimpier. :lol:

I bet that guy would love crickets... or some grubs. Oh, I want a Gary in my garden, too. He looks nice.

whodatnation · Jan 16, 2013

Bobotrank said:
Careful, could be his friend Ace... you'll know if he looks a little... wimpier.

I bet that guy would love crickets... or some grubs. Oh, I want a Gary in my garden, too. He looks nice.

Hes looking kinda gnarly now :-)

I got plenty of grubs crawling around decomposing the hay. They may be too big for him :shock:

monster grubs! Im keeping them around, they are eating everything decomposing and helping it compost faster.

jigfresh · Jan 16, 2013

HAHA... ace and gary. Lol... can you release the emergency brake.

Glad you got your helper back whodat.

bassman999 · Jan 16, 2013

Who you prolly stated several times, but what are you using in your hempys as far as ferts goes?

whodatnation · Jan 16, 2013

bassman999 said:
Who you prolly stated several times, but what are you using in your hempys as far as ferts goes?

No hempies here bass. Jus SS topped with leftover hyroton. All the nutes are in the soil, I add 1/4 strength tea once a week and foliar with diluted tea once a week.

bassman999 said:
Hey Who, Do you just put hydroton balls over your supersoil?

I sure did bass. I mixed it into the medium of about half of them, I didnt put any at the bottom because the drainage holes are too big and these little fuckers already get ALL OVER THE PLACE lol Im actually doing really good about that so far.

whodatnation · Jan 16, 2013

whodatnation said:
Iv been getting quite a few pms from different people asking me a few things here and there.
For any organic beginner or experienced grower... This is where its at, nice and simple and very effective.

For anyone wanting to try some simple tried and true supersoil.... This is for you, it has grown some of my finest plants... If you do this in conjunction with a few guano kelp teas here and there you will never turn back.
Its called vicks supersoil. I believe Genuity has given this recipe a go with good results.
I added prices.
1 Bale sunshine mix #2 or promix (3.8 cu ft)~~~~~~~~~~~$36
8 cups Bone Meal - phosphorus source~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~$8
4 cups Blood Meal - nitrogen source ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~$18 for 8lb bag, you only use half... leftovers!
1 1/3 cups Epsom salts - magnesium source~~~~~~~~~~~~$3
3-4 cups dolomite lime -calcium source & pH buffering~~~~~$10
4 cups kelp meal.~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~$8
9kg (25 lbs) bag pure worm castings~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~$20 for 30lb add all 30lbs

- Mix thoroughly, moisten, and let sit 1-2 weeks before use.

Thats $103 for about 5 cubic feet of kick ass soil. This should last you a long time and you can re amend and reuse and it only gets better with time,,, so start soon and there are leftovers! I add some azomite but thats optional, 2 cups I guess. I also added 2tbl humic acid concentrate to the water wetting it down, also optional.

The tea is optional, but highly suggested even if its only a few times. Use the tea about once a week in flower if the plants need it. Heavy feeders will get more tea.
The ingredients will last you several grows.

Veg mix-1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses

I hope some people copy this down, you wont regret it.

Edit: I haven't been using the liquid karma for a while,,, not completely necessary... but beneficial nonetheless.

Page bump incase anyone missed this.

bassman999 · Jan 16, 2013

whodatnation said:
No hempies here bass. Jus SS topped with leftover hyroton. All the nutes are in the soil, I add 1/4 strength tea once a week and foliar with diluted tea once a week.

I sure did bass. I mixed it into the medium of about half of them, I didnt put any at the bottom because the drainage holes are too big and these little fuckers already get ALL OVER THE PLACE lol Im actually doing really good about that so far.

I got mixed up, and its Doob I think that is experimenting with hempy right now.
I am just out of whack today with this DMV vision test thing I think.

jigfresh · Jan 16, 2013

Lol... Doobie and Chaka I believe are both doing hempies right now. I think chaka for the first time. MIght ask him... his growth is pretty amazing in the little hempy bucket he's running.

whodatnation · Jan 16, 2013

bassman999 said:
I got mixed up, and its Doob I think that is experimenting with hempy right now.
I am just out of whack today with this DMV vision test thing I think.

haha its cool bass bongsmilie

Let us know how the DMV goes by the way... Best of luck to ya!

jigfresh said:
Lol... Doobie and Chaka I believe are both doing hempies right now. I think chaka for the first time. MIght ask him... his growth is pretty amazing in the little hempy bucket he's running.

Yeah that thing chacka has going has exploded in growth :shock:

just awesome

update coming....

bassman999 · Jan 16, 2013

jigfresh said:
Lol... Doobie and Chaka I believe are both doing hempies right now. I think chaka for the first time. MIght ask him... his growth is pretty amazing in the little hempy bucket he's running.

Never done hydro b4, and this lil intro to hydro tells me this is amazing.
After I got it dialed in the cuts from the moms are outdoing the moms and have really impressed me.

whodatnation · Jan 16, 2013

Day 24

Today I found two bones in the yard, I decided to bury them by Petey. The big one looks like the one he was toting around shortly before he passed :-)

Gone but not forgotten bongsmilie

On to the growing.

So in my off time I trained the donkeys to make tea for me..... ;-)

You know I was laughing when I found this lol
I will definitely be dumping this on the compost pile after I let it sit for another couple of days. In fact I'll make a few buckets on the reg, GREAT IDEA DONKIES!!! THANK YOU! lol Gotta love it.

Lets go inside for a warm cup of tea.

My guano kelp and general tea brew station with bigger pump and res. New res is 15 gal I have 5 in it now. Earlier today I also added a pinch of azomite, something Iv never done before but others do it so why not? Thanks bobo.
I also added a 1/2 teaspoon of 12% humate concentrate. Iv added this to large batches of tea for the garden (usually composted chicken manure, donkey manure, and finished compost.. A 600 gallon batch of full strength guano kelp tea would be a little pricey lol. But have never given the humate to the ladies, this should be good.

This is what they say about their product
Our Liquid Humate concentrate contains vital elements for healthy soil in an easy to apply liquid form. Extracted from the richest deposits of ancient lakebeds this material is essentially peat moss that has decomposed for at least one million years. It provides a wealth of valuable plant elements, holds water in the soil, feeds the living organisms in the soil, and releases locked-up nutrients for plant growth. Mix 1/8 tsp. per gallon of water for foliar feed and 1 tbsp. per gallon for soil applications

In other news, Gary is back! lol Here he is all beaten up missing some of his tail, sorry little guy.
I set up my heat mat and uvb reptile light for him,,, Sorry Gary, Im going to need the uvb light in a month or so to make frosty buds... I'll smoke you out how about that?

?p x SB2 topped for four mains. I think with my shorter veg time I'll be doing mostly 4 headed mainlines.

Group in the cab.

Unfortunately these two beauties are just about confirmed males. One ?p x BK and one ?p x BnS. Two of my nicest looking plants... May decide on collecting some pollen, will see.

That about covers it.
:peace:

bassman999 · Jan 16, 2013

I love the bone thing..nice!!

Swamp Thing · Jan 16, 2013

I think you'll be happy with the humic acids directly in your tea. You'll find with the use of humic acids directly in your feed they'll increase nutrient absorption as well as the entire metabolism of the plant, sometimes people recommend feeding a lil less when using humates directly because of the increased absorption rate of the N, Mg, Fe, P, etc..
But humus is naturally found in composts and the like already and since you have a nice compost batch... I doubt your roots will be have that much of a significant humus roid burst to make ya susceptible to burns. Just a heads up to everyone else out there though. This is mainly a worry when using non-organic ferts like some growers tend to do later in bloom when a fat P-K boost is given in peak flowering.

BTW that product I showed on the former page (fossil fuel) has 15% and is derived from leonardite like the rest (best) of 'em.

Bummer about the males, usually the most vigorous plants are males anyway as it is in their genetics to be the biggest/fastest etc. I've found the slowest males to be the most potent though. My buddy had a Sunshine Daydream last round that had trichomes! Needless to say we kept him for breeding projects.

Can't wait to see how the other ?Purp? x Bub n Squeak progeny progress. That momma looked simply amazing, screw the hype strains... I would take that over any Girl Scout Cookies cut any day.

Bobotrank · Jan 16, 2013

whodatnation said:

Earlier today I also added a pinch of azomite, something Iv never done before but others do it so why not? Thanks bobo.
I also added a 1/2 teaspoon of 12% humate concentrate. Iv added this to large batches of tea for the garden (usually composted chicken manure, donkey manure, and finished compost.. A 600 gallon batch of full strength guano kelp tea would be a little pricey lol. But have never given the humate to the ladies, this should be good.

I've got some tea going right now with a pinch of azomite

Making a couple of gallons... some for the kids, as well as general garden outside.

Gary, buddy. Loooookin good.

supchaka · Jan 16, 2013

bassman999 said:
Never done hydro b4, and this lil intro to hydro tells me this is amazing.
After I got it dialed in the cuts from the moms are outdoing the moms and have really impressed me.

Yeah I got a few hempy tests going. One is in a smart pot but nothing has blown up like the one in blue! I'm using cns17 samples from botanicare, per schedule on the bottle. I've also added a 1/2 tsp h2o2 per gallon. I use straight tap water and the nutes when mixed put me in the 5.8 range with about 1000ppm. I've not seen a reason to try for higher ppm yet. But yeah I'm super impressed so far, if I do convert it will be a flood to waste system of some sort.

I should add, my fear is that the plants are going to be impossible to keep upright as they get big. The same reason I despise dwc buckets. Well no, I hate dwc for having to fuck with the res.

bassman999 · Jan 16, 2013

supchaka said:
Yeah I got a few hempy tests going. One is in a smart pot but nothing has blown up like the one in blue! I'm using cns17 samples from botanicare, per schedule on the bottle. I've also added a 1/2 tsp h2o2 per gallon. I use straight tap water and the nutes when mixed put me in the 5.8 range with about 1000ppm. I've not seen a reason to try for higher ppm yet. But yeah I'm super impressed so far, if I do convert it will be a flood to waste system of some sort.

I should add, my fear is that the plants are going to be impossible to keep upright as they get big. The same reason I despise dwc buckets. Well no, I hate dwc for having to fuck with the res.

mine are in a tote and2-3 ft tall range, but not flowering and stand up fine.
I might find flowering that I need some support.

whodatnation · Jan 16, 2013

Swamp Thing said:
Great thread WhoDat!

I think this may be my first subscription at Roll It Up. Glad to join the Who Dat Nation fan club on RollItUp

Got a few things going myself (hope you don't mind my sharing):

2 crosses of my own from this past year
Jam Rock: Jamaican Lambsbread x Haterade
Haterade: (Afwreck x Afgooey/SourDiesel-ibl)x(Afwreck x Afgooey/SourDiesel-ibl)

Afgooey x Sour Diesel-ibl is also known as Chrystal Trident by Bodhi. A special male was found by a buddy, mini, and he used it on the famous Afwreck clone that was going around the Bay Area pre-2010.

The Jam Rock is something special. Fat calyxes and unmistakable Jamaican Lambsbread flavor of acrid mango & spices. The Haterade should add extra citrus tang (from the Twreck in the Afwreck) with more of a syrupy sweet smell (from the Maui in the Afgooey), as those are his traits that he squirts and passes on to everyone.

Yo Momma F2s by Rusty Jay
Yo Mama by bodhi = Afgooey X Appalachia (originally crossed by our boy Bodhi!)
Appalachia (one of Bodhi's main breeding males)= Green Crack x Tres Dawg

sw@nk's:
Purple Diesel x Malawi Gold

(and thinking about these)
Sunshine Daydream F2s

The Malawi Gold male, found by sw@nk, was a triploid. I very much look forward to growing out it's progeny as this male was used on the Purple Diesel, Girl Scout Cookies, and Chem 4. Hope to find a nice "African Golden Diesel" aka the Chem 4 x Malawi

Can't wait to see this progress.

Also, love the mix. Very similar to mine. Hope it's cool if I list it along with what's on deck in the batters box for me right now
Roughly 1/3 Compost 1/3 Pro-Mix Myco 1/3 Sunshine Mix Perlite
Additives include:
Boogie Brew (http://www.boogiebrew.com/ ) - a buddy started this company and I've found the vegan tea mix to be great. Both as an dry additive and mix to make high quality tea.
Bone Meal - High in Phosphorus (P) for da buds
Fish Meal - High in Nitrogen (N) for general vegetative growth and decent Phosphorus (P)
Dolomite Lime - High in Calcium (Ca) and Magnesium (Mg). Balances pH of the mix as well as keeps the stems and structure strong (thanks to the Ca) as well as keeps it generally healthy, a major quality of the Mg
Kelp - High in Potassium (K)

Also, remember, this is a rough recipe for my Swampy Soil... depending on what organic additives I put into my compost, I decide what to goes into the final potting mix.
Kelp is something I've find pretty clutch for the mix because I've found K (potassium) and organic root structure to be very much supported by each other.

My liquid feed mix consists of
Hygrozyme
Fossil Fuel (the best humic product IMO bc of how much humics are in it, you can mix your own "Liquid Karma" or whatever with this stuff. http://www.planetnatural.com/site/fossil-fuel.html )
Carbs & Sugars usually use Blackstrap Molasses or straight up Brown Sugar
when needed I'll toss some Pure Blend Pro - Bloom (in peak bloom, though bone meal usually has more than enough Phos for me... so not usually)

Hope all is well Who Dat!

Swamp Thing said:
I think you'll be happy with the humic acids directly in your tea. You'll find with the use of humic acids directly in your feed they'll increase nutrient absorption as well as the entire metabolism of the plant, sometimes people recommend feeding a lil less when using humates directly because of the increased absorption rate of the N, Mg, Fe, P, etc..
But humus is naturally found in composts and the like already and since you have a nice compost batch... I doubt your roots will be have that much of a significant humus roid burst to make ya susceptible to burns. Just a heads up to everyone else out there though. This is mainly a worry when using non-organic ferts like some growers tend to do later in bloom when a fat P-K boost is given in peak flowering.

BTW that product I showed on the former page (fossil fuel) has 15% and is derived from leonardite like the rest (best) of 'em.

Bummer about the males, usually the most vigorous plants are males anyway as it is in their genetics to be the biggest/fastest etc. I've found the slowest males to be the most potent though. My buddy had a Sunshine Daydream last round that had trichomes! Needless to say we kept him for breeding projects.

Can't wait to see how the other ?Purp? x Bub n Squeak progeny progress. That momma looked simply amazing, screw the hype strains... I would take that over any Girl Scout Cookies cut any day.

Thats some good info right there... And that first post is awesome. Thanks for sharing.

buzworthy · Jan 17, 2013

Happy to see garys back. Him turning green is a good thing, it means hes happy and not stressed. Light brown means hes shedding and dark brown means he's unhappy/stressed. The tail will grow back.. I love reptiles as much as i love herb so this thread is a win win.

jigfresh · Jan 17, 2013

I must have missed an edit or something. Those are some nice sounding strains Swamp. I like the sound of the Haterade (lol, nice name). I got some Sour D running right now.

WhoDat back at it.

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