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weak setup i no jus a bright wing 200 its my first grow 2 ak48s kinda worried bout two leaves thatr droopn compared to the other plant? nehtng to worried bout er am i paranoid n how close shood lights b at this point? n how long cood i veg with this light since its so small cuz i want short stocky buds no long skinny shit ne nput wood help thnx RIU

davemeradith said:

weak setup i no jus a bright wing 200 its my first grow 2 ak48s kinda worried bout two leaves thatr droopn compared to the other plant? nehtng to worried bout er am i paranoid n how close shood lights b at this point? n how long cood i veg with this light since its so small cuz i want short stocky buds no long skinny shit ne nput wood help thnx RIU

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You're trippin.

Hands off those seedlings. Those are big planters and little plants. You might not need to water again for 5 to 7 days. No more spraying them, they don't need that much water dude, and the water they do get you want them to pull from the roots. Makes them strong.

I don't see a circulation fan in there. You might want to get one of those going to keep the stems strong and the air fluttering around the leaves. This will help them stay cool and respire.

Not too ghetto a setup. I have seen worse. Plants are really hands off when they are this young. All they need is time and the occasional media saturation (only when the media goes totally dry, lift the planter to determine the weight). Always get plenty of run off. In about 2 weeks you can then start to train or water the mature root system more frequently. That's the time to begin getting a little more hands on. Right now you just gotta let them do their thing and get out of their way.

Don't worry. Sometimes the hardest part of being a parent is watching your children stand on their own.

thnx for the help bro i got a fan sittn n corner cant c n pic no worries but these lil pop up grow bags havnt had ne runoff n my trays since ive watered em thats y im scared n keep fuckn with em i thnk imma end up over watern em i hope these containers retain water well thats y i havnt seen the runoff yet if not then idk wut to do

davemeradith said:

thnx for the help bro i got a fan sittn n corner cant c n pic no worries but these lil pop up grow bags havnt had ne runoff n my trays since ive watered em thats y im scared n keep fuckn with em i thnk imma end up over watern em i hope these containers retain water well thats y i havnt seen the runoff yet if not then idk wut to do

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If you haven't seen any run off then it's because you haven't used enough water. That's all.

Over watering is not using too much water. It is watering too frequently. Frequency of saturation is extremely important to young, immature, root systems and watering too often will drown young root systems.

At this point you don't want to go and add more water. The seedlings appear to be almost floating in the soil. Also, I didn't notice this before but those run off trays aren't large enough to catch enough run off from those planters. You should probably pick up some 12" (30cm) or 14" (36cm) saucers the next chance you get. You always want to remove the runoff to keep the plant from drawing any salts or residuals that you are trying to wash out.

When you lift that container and it feels light, and I mean, outrageously feather light, then you'll know that the media is ready for a saturation. You don't want the plant to suffer of course, so you kinda need to be "Johnny-on-the-spot" with that first watering to keep the roots from getting damaged by spending an excessive amount of time dry. Just as that last bit of moisture is used, then you want to just water, water, water. You can't over do it when you water, so run that stuff through there until you get the runoff you are looking for.

Then it is just a matter of going from totally saturated - up to the point of 20% of what you used collected as runoff - to just nearly dry. Once the roots are mature and fill the majority of the planter you can then begin doing your saturations while the planter is still somewhat moist, maybe 1/4 the weight as when it was totally saturated.

You'll get there in time.

I would like to know the best way of storing pot after harvesting, i may need to store some for around 6 months or maybe longer. I have a nice vacum pump and was thinking about making a air prof chamber and vacuuming the air and moister out of the chamber. How bad does normal air affect it? Is this a good idea or is their a better way?

I think that's what most people do. Vacuum sealing works to preserve most things as it is the oxygen in the air which feeds the bacteria and oxidizes the compounds which in turn breaks down the product over time. Removing access to air is probably the right way to go about it.

I'm not sure if you absolutely have to vacuum seal them. Maybe just filling a jar with a good seal pretty full after they are cured is all it'd take to get it to last 6 months. I think the vacuum sealing could probably keep the stuff fresh for years if kept out of the light and temperature stable.

Personally, I wouldn't take the chance. If you already have the vacuum sealer just use that. I'd probably just jar my nugs for the 6 months but I don't have the pump already.

I encourage discussion on this topic. I am by no means an expert in "saving" weed. Smoking copious amounts of it... yes... making more of it... almost... but saving it... not so much.

newbie//how do i pollenate the male buds off the plant?

Thanks snow!! I thought it would be a good idea but i sure don't want to mess up.

see but i have been watering in small amts frequently... r u saying thats bad? or is it ok since they young but ince they mature then i can let it go longer w.out water but give it greater amts.? im srry man im jus really tryn to learn as much as i can n not ruin my plants

Eddie Man said:

newbie//how do i pollenate the male buds off the plant?

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Males are not pollinated, they do the pollinating. When the female is a few weeks into flowering you simply sprinkle a little of the yellow pollen the males will drop when their flowers open. This will impregnate your girls to produce seeds rather than sensi.

davemeradith said:

see but i have been watering in small amts frequently... r u saying thats bad? or is it ok since they young but ince they mature then i can let it go longer w.out water but give it greater amts.? im srry man im jus really tryn to learn as much as i can n not ruin my plants

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It's okay, but you have it all backwards.

You do not. I repeat. DO NOT. Want to be watering your young plants a little bit on a regular basis.

The idea with young plants is to water once and then leave them alone for several days. I'll go 4-5 days between waterings in smaller party cups. In larger planters, it could be as much as 10 days before the water has evaporated off. Young plants need VERY little water, and what you are doing, watering a little bit very frequently, will kill them quickly.

Older plants have hundreds of leaves, and thick healthy root systems. They take up and use quite a bit of water which is why you water a larger plant MORE frequently.

So. Again.

Seedlings. Do not water frequently. You water to saturation and runoff. Then you leave them alone and let the media nearly dry out before saturating them again.

Mature plants. Water them frequently. You always water to saturation and runoff. You can still water too frequently and create root rot. Allow the media to become moist but not totally wet or dry between waterings.

Over Loving your plants is the number one cause of noob related Cannabis murder. They don't need much. Just set them up and let them do their thing. Watering daily, or even every other day, is just too often when they are that young.

snow crash, thanks for the help i will do wot u say. heres a pic of the browning i mentioned: i think you can see it, i took a closeup with a 8megapixel fone camera, if you have trouble let me know. thanks for all ur help. i'm gonna repot tomoro with 6.5 ph soil.

in the bottom right corner, you can see a white tendril from the preflower on one of the side branches, just thought i'd say that

this is the full plant and i will be moving to a bigger pot and new soil tomoro

theyve only been n soil for a lil over a day n ive been watern em frequently if i leave them for 4-5 days then check shood they still b ok? or did i already fuck my plants up?!

I NEED HELP do any of you guys know a cheap way to vent my grow tent. the tent is 2'x2'x4' its just for one plant and i dont want to spend a lot of money on a big ass inline fan that puts out 80 CFM i only need like 15 to 20 CFM. if you know of a good way please share it with me......

lotusfeet420 said:

this is the full plant and i will be moving to a bigger pot and new soil tomoro

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Other than looking a little starved of light she is healthy. Based on the picture I'm leaning towards the pistil color being a genetic trait rather than an environmental issue. I can only ponder...

davemeradith said:

theyve only been n soil for a lil over a day n ive been watern em frequently if i leave them for 4-5 days then check shood they still b ok? or did i already fuck my plants up?!

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Nah, your plants will be okay, just let the soil dry out. The time it takes will depend on many factors and I cannot sit here and try to predict how long it will take for your media to dry out. This is why I included instructions on how to test the moisture level of the plant. The time it takes is indeterminable but likely sometime in 4 to 7 days.

You will need to be the grower. You will need to check for moisture. You will need to pull the trigger. Don't ignore your plants outright for 5 days, check on them, lift the planter, but don't spray them and water them every day. When the media is ready you will know.

rjcoon26 said:

I NEED HELP do any of you guys know a cheap way to vent my grow tent. the tent is 2'x2'x4' its just for one plant and i dont want to spend a lot of money on a big ass inline fan that puts out 80 CFM i only need like 15 to 20 CFM. if you know of a good way please share it with me......

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You're going to need some kind of fan. Inline, axial, blower... something. I think I got my 4" axial fan for like $30 and it moves a tremendous amount of air considering the size of the thing. Not good with negative pressures though.

rjcoon26 said:

I NEED HELP do any of you guys know a cheap way to vent my grow tent. the tent is 2'x2'x4' its just for one plant and i dont want to spend a lot of money on a big ass inline fan that puts out 80 CFM i only need like 15 to 20 CFM. if you know of a good way please share it with me......

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You're going to need way more than 15-20 CFM. Especially of you're using lights that put off any heat.
Home Depot or any hardware store will carry 4" inline duct fans for about $20, it will keep fresh air coming in, and will extract any hot air if you're using HPS lights (up to 250 watt).
My opinion, at least 40cfm if you do not have an HPS, and at least 80cfm if you do (if it's a 150 watt or 250 watt. 400 or 600, I'd look into the 6" inline duct fan, those are like $25)

well i way over feed em while in grow dome and i think the heat was to high in there as well cuz mold started to grow on the Strawberry & the Himalayan. (they stayed in there a week longer then the rest cuz i was gunna give em to a friend but he couldnt make it out to my house). im more worried about Tangerine dream #2...its way pale, droopy, and has light spottings...ive looked for mites and bugs just cuz i saw on cervantes video that they cause white blemish spots from below. i have the room temp at 80f (+- 2f) and the temp on the lids have been hitting 85f.

i feed em 2ml of each Grow Bloom micro and added 2 ml of revive in each 4 gal res with 1 ml of h202. ph range from 5.8-6.1 in each bucket. do they just need time or lower the temp some more (dont know if i can..i got 4 osc fans 2 120mm fans for intake and exhaust with duct running to the window(i put a vent filter at end to keep dust and bugs from entering the tent). the TD#2 has gotten a weeeeeee bit better since i transplanted it 4 days ago. the new growth dont have burns just super pale and the leaves appear a lil wrinkly ..what do you think?

oh i also moved the Agro Son 400w mh up to 30 inches above the lids to help with the heat...too far away? i have 4 26w cfls about 4-5" away to make up for the distance...should i keep em or get ride of em?
the pineapple express was also severly burned with the TD#2 but she is looking a lot better with a lot of new growth with no new burns, while the TD#2 is sad as shit looking still...

The Bublelicious's leaves are turning up a lil, rest dont appear to be as sensitive to the heat
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cervezacorona said:

You're going to need way more than 15-20 CFM. Especially of you're using lights that put off any heat.
Home Depot or any hardware store will carry 4" inline duct fans for about $20, it will keep fresh air coming in, and will extract any hot air if you're using HPS lights (up to 250 watt).
My opinion, at least 40cfm if you do not have an HPS, and at least 80cfm if you do (if it's a 150 watt or 250 watt. 400 or 600, I'd look into the 6" inline duct fan, those are like $25)

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OK bro i just went to the store and picked up a case fan that puts out 76 CFM i am using 6 26w 6500k cfls. I just installed the fan and I am waiting for 1 hour to pass to check the temp. do you think it will be ok? I also have a fan installed on top of my tent not sure what CFM it has but it is pointed straight up to pull out hot air

Also how many days should I veg this clone I got from a medi shop. it is about 10" tall with a great root system. it has been growing in my DWC for 12 days now when should i switch lights??????