OK, so here is what I don't understand. The carts are advertised as say 87% but it's a liquid. Any other concentrate like that becomes a solid. I see them selling kits to make your own carts and its basically like "Mix your live Rosen with this liquid and fill carts" I can't believe that there is only 13% of something other than a cannaboid in a cart advertised as 87% and still have it as a liquid.
Who can explain vape carts % to me?
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CatHedral
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Absolutely pure THC is an extremely viscous liquid. I have handled it. 90% THC and the rest monoterpenes is about like honey.
Same guy from the other thread? I don't even remember who I said that to, was it you? lol.
How do you get absolutely pure THC? What kind of extraction does that?
CatHedral
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I used full tilt lab methods.
I chromatographed an 89% extract to get a pure (one spot) product.
Upon distillation under vacuum, I had a colorless resin whose NMR spectrum, oh yes 99.9 or so.
Herb & Suds
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Different strokes
CatHedral
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Oh now there, something that has bugged me. It is right there but the science is behind.
go go kid
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thats whai i herd you have to do to get the pure shit, but i refuse to pay the money for a final vacume distilation tumbling device
Wife loves them. What she likes about them is the smell is lower than a joint, and she can get a quick puff when she pops downstairs doing the laundry etc. I thought they were cool at first, but they just don't really get me high or taste as good as a joint to me.
CatHedral
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Just sayin. Played at the big table. Happier at day’s end with wilder product.
ComfortCreator
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The main difference is quite big actually and what a lot of people don't understand.
The processes for making most concentrates has a side effect. The side effect is a stripping out of the terpenes which make strains feel very different. Most vape concentrates are thc, diluted into a glycol base. The terpenes are removed as a byproduct of the processes. Often then the company will add back in flavoring so it tastes amazing. It is rare but occasionally you will see concentrate where the terpenes are put back in after the concentration. That is way expensive and I ask, wtf already, if you want bud....enjoy the bud!
So I would suggest your wife is happy with the effects of the thc alone (in nice, concentrated form for a quick hit), and you like the feelings of individual strains and notice them more (likely also a much higher tolerance).
What you described is one of a few reasons I tend to avoid concentrates.
riuTEMPriu
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Live resin is nice and solventless rosin is even better, but they're still a far cry from straight flower. I think this divide largely comes down to experience* and what you're smoking for. Some people just need a quick hit of mostly THC to get through their work day. A lot of people, myself included, get basically mostly just annoyed by straight THC, but benefit immensely from a hit off a joint or a bong rip, because we're really in it for the terpenes. I've never once felt a proper body high from a cart, not even the nicest-tasting live carts. Even hash rosin is only an approximation of a "proper" high for us.
*I don't mean experience as in "smoke more nub", I mean experience as in those of us who grew up on only flower (because concentrates didn't really exist or weren't available) are likely drawn in by a different experinece than most kids who likely start these days with a cart or a dab. Anyone can be an experienced smoker, but not everyone will try a cart expecting a flower high and be disappointed if that makes sense.
*I don't mean experience as in "smoke more nub", I mean experience as in those of us who grew up on only flower (because concentrates didn't really exist or weren't available) are likely drawn in by a different experinece than most kids who likely start these days with a cart or a dab. Anyone can be an experienced smoker, but not everyone will try a cart expecting a flower high and be disappointed if that makes sense.
DrOgkush
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Terpenes and thc are a fraction, and I mean a fraction of the cannabinoids involved in the whole plant. And carts. For the most part have added terpenes in them. Terpenes and thc is not the only thing that matters.
But yes. I 100% agree that those who grew up smoking flower because that’s all there really was probably had a better experience and more *understanding tolerance. Rather than today. Most kids just say it’s all bunk if it’s not from the club with a sticker on %. Most today don’t even know what A grade cannabis is.
But yes. I 100% agree that those who grew up smoking flower because that’s all there really was probably had a better experience and more *understanding tolerance. Rather than today. Most kids just say it’s all bunk if it’s not from the club with a sticker on %. Most today don’t even know what A grade cannabis is.
ComfortCreator
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Exactly my thoughts. Some extractions are better than others but killer flower is still king imo.
But things change and we may be dinosaurs.
Lockedin
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You can have them flavored if you like.
A friend of mine had a really off-tasting harvest - almost unsmokable.
What do you do with 90# of super stony, NASTY tasting weed? *cough cough yak!
Send it to an extractor and have some mango kush terpenes added in. - 75% thc IIRC.
Smooth high - I bought a case of those and cried a little when they were gone. Distinct mango flavor.
But to the point - why is smoking flower still the preferred method of ingestion - especially given what we know about smoking anything?
IMHO - the negatives - tar, cogeners, & other chemicals which are removed in the distillation process actually contribute to the entourage effect and the resulting high.
A friend of mine had a really off-tasting harvest - almost unsmokable.
What do you do with 90# of super stony, NASTY tasting weed? *cough cough yak!
Send it to an extractor and have some mango kush terpenes added in. - 75% thc IIRC.
Smooth high - I bought a case of those and cried a little when they were gone. Distinct mango flavor.
But to the point - why is smoking flower still the preferred method of ingestion - especially given what we know about smoking anything?
IMHO - the negatives - tar, cogeners, & other chemicals which are removed in the distillation process actually contribute to the entourage effect and the resulting high.