The Cryptkeeper
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Man. I'd go Beverly Hillbillies on them. Kick those canisters back at 'em and get everybody I know together. There's only like 20 of them with rubber bullets and riot gear. I have riot gear and actual bullets. 
Who belives in this American Ideology
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SLT4x4
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Just my opinion though guys I dont wanna seem like a Tyrant but Geez we surely need some reform in all angles.I believe we should be As One and make sure everyone lives productively and happy but stuff gets to me sometimes.The world in general is really messed up and its too far gone to fix.
beardo
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Why should we 'make sure' and who's in charge of making sure? and who get's to decide what you can and can't do to be productive and happy? should they force you if you don't agree?
The Cryptkeeper
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The Mega-conglomerate corporations.
The Cryptkeeper
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I've always said, we should either be isolationists again, or imperialists again.
Pipe Dream
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I agree with slt 4x4 it's reallygone too far to fix. They could at least enforce the rules in the future and how come two illegal aliens can have a child and he/she is considered a legal citizen? That's makes no sense.
The Cryptkeeper
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The child I'd agree with but the parents hell no.
beardo
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And why can I gay Marry an Illegal alien and that makes him American?
SLT4x4
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Im saying IN GENERAL that we as human beings and Americans should watch out for each other and our country.Thats the way it was written and its up to us as individuals to do so to whom we choose to make even something as small as our own community a better place to live.....Our Borders should be patrolled by our military that shouldn't be in Iraq,We need to close them down period and sweep all the Illegals back to where they came from and keep them out.Our country isnt going to get better until that is done.The laws are all BS and to much grey areas.We need to follow Arizona on this.Close down the Border...no more coke or other crap including crappy weed LOL
Here's my belief on this subject.
I believe that all people of all origins have the right to imigrate here.
Under these conditions....
1. You must speak English fluently, to the point where any America can understand you with no problem. none of this welcome to the quicky mart accent bullshit.
2. You must hold a job and pay your taxes for a year before you become a citiazin.
3. Your immediate family must come with you so you are forced to spent majority of your income here. You would have 90 days to have them here.
4. You must take a class on american history, American lit, and the American culture.
5. You must have a somewhat clean criminal history.
6. You must speak English in all work places and when ever talking to someone who doesn't speak Spanish or whatever.
7. Once you have become an American you are put on 5 years of a probationary period, where if you fall through on any if the above conditions you can be sent back to your country depending on the situation.
No immigrant would be eligible for government assistance such as welfare food stamps, or anything like that. They would be eligible for workmans comp or unemployment based on the situation.
I believe that all people of all origins have the right to imigrate here.
Under these conditions....
1. You must speak English fluently, to the point where any America can understand you with no problem. none of this welcome to the quicky mart accent bullshit.
2. You must hold a job and pay your taxes for a year before you become a citiazin.
3. Your immediate family must come with you so you are forced to spent majority of your income here. You would have 90 days to have them here.
4. You must take a class on american history, American lit, and the American culture.
5. You must have a somewhat clean criminal history.
6. You must speak English in all work places and when ever talking to someone who doesn't speak Spanish or whatever.
7. Once you have become an American you are put on 5 years of a probationary period, where if you fall through on any if the above conditions you can be sent back to your country depending on the situation.
No immigrant would be eligible for government assistance such as welfare food stamps, or anything like that. They would be eligible for workmans comp or unemployment based on the situation.
The Cryptkeeper
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Well alot is already necessary.
Michael Phelps
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Never say never... You wouldnt like to see us come together as a species? I think it would be nice to see the day when man didnt feel the need to dominate his fellow man, the fact that something like 95% of our wealth is held by 5% of the population is ridiculous..This will never happen, and honestly probably shouldn't.
That would be a global Aristocracy. What you want sounds like a global 100% pure Democratic government. There has never been a truly Democratic government but it would be interesting to see in action.
I guess my views lead to the point where i feel this is my life and i run this shit, why should someone be able to tell me what i can and cant do, as long as your not effecting someones freewill then there shouldn't be a problem... Now i know there are alot of gray areas in this argument, one might have a different freewill then another. As for solving that problem i have no idea, i dont know how it could work, again i think there would have to be a mass shift in public awareness.
Global Aristocracy is close to coming true.. Whether people want to admit it or not, the bloodlines go back centuries, the international banking families control the majority of world politicians.
As for seeing a true democratic government in working power, i fully agree, it would def be interesting to see!
The Cryptkeeper
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Not twisted. I'm fiercly national. The governments disgusting, but I love the people.
I want to be an emperor. That shit would be awesome. But people clash. A world without borders really isn't a good idea. People differ and they have their own countries. Israel and Palestine don't mix. North and South Korea don't mix. They never will and that's why they have different countries. I'm a dreamer too though. So here's a song for us.
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CaptainCAVEMAN
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Speak English or Die! - Stormtroopers of Death, 1987
SLT4x4
Member
dtrack has it down thats a great outlook man.Now getting someone to listen and enforce is another thing.These high paid lawmakers have no idea whats going on.They need to live and experience these situations like us norml folks do on a daily basis,and Im not talking about dealing with their gardener every other day.Im talking about these little gang bangin border crossing people who are living here Illegally,I was threatened in public by a guy who could barely speak english,and if I didnt have my daughter clothes shopping I would have left him bleeding in the parking lot at ross.... Stuff like that pisses me off,but then ive dealt with people that would give you the shirt off their back while racing down in baja.... I dunno but the way I feel is that no matter where the Illegals are from we need to weed them out and deport them and harshly enforce the laws and we will see a decrease in unemployment and a deficit.I do know that if an Illegal is caught at our border,processed and deported they are not eligible to have legal papers for 5 years and anything after that we incarcerate them in a US prison for the arrested charges WTF ?
justlearning73
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Here is what I believe anyone can immigrate to this country LEGALLY. I am all for it. It is what our country is about. Yes the statue of liberty is correct and i agree. BUT if you are illegal, i don't care what color or race you are.....get the fuck out. There is a difference between a legal immigrate and illegal immigrate. What part of illegal dont people understand? Theyare a drain on our ecconomy and our social systems. I am totally against this bullshit amminsty program i have heard about. You want to reward them???? Screw that, there are millions that come to this country legally learn the languge, learn how to write in english and our history. That is no easy task for these people and I applaud them. If i had someone (a person here legally trying to become a citizen) come to me and ask for help I would gladly help them to become a citizen. Oh i seen a post by someone who said that if we were to report any ilegals that we would be considered snitches. To that I say bullshit too. We are just trying to protect our country. No i am not a racist. Yes I am a white man, but if you seen my kids and grandkids you would see i am not racist. I have lost jobs to illegals. It sucks. And before you say anything about they just take the jobs nobody wants, I used to lay asphalt. I loved it.
The Cryptkeeper
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What did you love about laying asphalt. LOL Amen to everything you said.
I'm just curious.
SLT4x4
Member
Ive been there too justlearning...laying asphalt is hard work but kinda fun,and my dad and I both have lost jobs to illegals..... Its just wrong and you feel violated because they will work for less....make you wanna slap the guy who hired them .Amen to everything in your post...every word !