White Widow Plants Sick?

Hi guys.. need help..
im in the 5'th week of flowering, and the flowers look good.. im just havin some problems with the leafs.. They dont look that healthy.. im usin biobuzz nutes and thinking that im maybe overfeeding them or maybe underfeeding?

what do you think?

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They do not look bad at all but I can see where you could be a little bit concerned. What other things are you using? If you are using a nute that has a low N your plants look fine because the plant uses that up when flowering.

for of all plus rep just for the weezy........thats my shit .....ow yes i love her like....pussy!money!weed!,......pussy! money !,weed!......thats my shit !!!!!!.....you got flavor bro!!!....okay back to the girls....first of all i noticed that the problem is on most if not all the plants first thing id do is get a soil p.h tester ,....and check the levels of the soil or get some soil let it sit in some of the water your using for 30 mins and check the runoff to see the soils p.h,....i dont know exactlly what type of diffenciey it is because i looks like it could be to id say nitrogen first beacause if how the leaves are turning yellow,...but on the plant you show where your toching the leaves it also looks like a phorsphus deffenciey....if its two types of deffencies whst id do is get a ph and ppm meter a.s.a.p and get both of thoose in check first then id cut the nute to maybe half strenth.........do some asking around first to get some more info beacause ive only done hydro grows and i woundnt wanna give you bad info ..but checkig the p.h and ppms wouldnt hurt either way!!!!....also iftheres two deffencies going on that could point to nutrient lock which would mean that you p.h is probably off......either way get a seckond opnion ......but seeing as how didnt anyone post i thought a seckond opnoin is better than none,.......hope it helps fam and by the way where did the clones/seed for your w/w come form nirvana.....beacause i just brought some from nirvana (there germinating right now) and i wanna get and idea of what there w/w looks like.......

that dosent look burnt to me.... looks like nitrogen def. i stand by sparkafires comment.

Hi guys... I tried cutting the nutes and just givin them clean tap water for a few days to check if there are any improvement.. I removed some of the hurt leaves and now im just checking whats gonna happen.. the buds all look great and it looks like im gonna get a lot of nice stuff to harvest.. If i can get the plants well and healthy..

I tested the PH and its around 7.. so its all good... ive been givin them some perlchalk ? (dont know if that the real name for it) The white stuff used to make pH neutral

Really hope that they will get more healthy the next few day, and then i'll start givin them small amounts of nutes again...



If u are interested i am using a 400 watt HPS lamp for flowering...

You might have mentioned but im too lazy to read but what soil are you in? How long have they been in that soil and have you tested your soils PH?

My soils PH is around 7 tested it earlier.. can't remember what soil it is but it has been in that soil from the beginning... Used jiffy cubes first, then put it in the soil.. They been very bushy and healthy all the way through.. Until now...

lobsterxmanx said:

that dosent look burnt to me.... looks like nitrogen def. i stand by sparkafires comment.

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this is correct, but in week 5 of flowering with white widow i wouldn't add too much nitrogen. maybe feed once with 50/50 grow and bloom ferts then switch back to bloom.

RRLBT420 said:

this is correct, but in week 5 of flowering with white widow i wouldn't add too much nitrogen. maybe feed once with 50/50 grow and bloom ferts then switch back to bloom.

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Yes WW does not like to have too much N it wants to slow down flowering so watch that.

asienk said:

so if there was a pissing match, would you join in?

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lol you got jokes!!!

I still dont know if im doin the right thing here.. Usally i always water with tap water with the nutritions in it... But theese last few days i watered with clean water only.. just to see if it helps anything...

When i start givin nutes again i will give very small amounts of N and more blooming juice
One of the plants look very bad Im sad... will post pics soon...

How much dried yield do you guys think i will get from theese 6 plants? I meen, whats realistic.. its my first grow..

Hey sort it out guys, you scaring me!lol! Anyway yes the nute schedule and what you are feeding it would be helpfull. Personally i hate seeing weed plant videos with music in the background, way not cool!!!!

Ok looking at your plants again and wondering how you know when to water them, do you wait long enough for the pots to get real light first? Do them buckets you got em in have holes at the bottom? How long have they been in their present containers (answer in weeks)? have they ever been flushed? and i assume you no longer give them perlchalk for the pH? Do you get runoff when you water?

Seems like they have had the right supply of nutes to get that big in the first place so am leaning more towards underfeeding them but maybe overwatering as some of them yellow leaves don't look like a deficiency. The brown spotting and dead patches worry me and think this could possibly be from a deficiency? Take it easy on the plant till you get futher advice, ruduce or up the nutes slowly if you change the nute schedule, make sure you are not overwatering too, i would like to hear the your answers to my questions to determine a few other factors first.

I totally trust sparkfire, sparky to me, even if he did get it wrong or is quite short tempered. He has nothing but good advice but at the end of the day the ultimate descion on what to do is up to you! On a final note how much biobizz do you add to a litre/gallon and is this just the bloom or grow? I use biobizz too.

Kingrow1 said:

Hey sort it out guys, you scaring me!lol!

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Do you work as a school councilor or something? you are always trying to keep the piece King.

Hi ... Thanks a lot for your feedback.. This is my first grow and i really apriciate the help that i can get.. I will try to anwser your questions...

First of all. The buckets.. Yes they have holes in the bottom and they are raised a bit so the water can get out...
Theese last few days i've only been feeding them clean water, but before that i used to make a complete mix of nutes in a 5 liter container witch i used to water.. I dont have a special watering sceduale.. i just water when i can feel that the soil is to dry.. Maybe everyday, maybe every second day...

Ive attached pics of the nutes that i use..
30 ML pr 5L water..... ALG-A-MIC : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3468471/Nutes/ALG-A-MIC.jpg
30 ML pr 5L water..... BIOBLOOM: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3468471/Nutes/biobloom.JPG
30 ML pr 5L water..... BIOGROW: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3468471/Nutes/Biogrow.jpg
30 ML pr 5L water..... MACRONUTRITIONS: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3468471/Nutes/Macronutes.jpg
around 25 ML pr 5L water.....TOPMAX: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3468471/Nutes/TopMAX.jpg

I mix all of it and use it when i water...

Watercontainer: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3468471/Nutes/foto.jpg

sparkafire said:

Do you work as a school councilor or something? you are always trying to keep the piece King.

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You might notice my diplomatic nature from time to time!lol! I think this site needs good growers just as much as it needs nice people. Theres a balance somewhere and as i am sh!t at growing i might as well be nice!lolol,

I dont understand that feeding schedule, are you just mixing up all of it into 5 litres or using 5 litres per seperate fert? If you are putting all 145ml of fert (30ml biogrow+30ml biobloom+30ml algamic+30ml macronutrients+25ml topmax) into 5 litres then this would be your problem???

Then this should be my problem.. But it just hadnt been a problem until now.. I cut all the nutes in halv now... 15 biogrow 15 biobloom 15 algamix 15 macronutrients and 15 topmax..

better this way?

i think your overdoing the nutes for a start mate, and if you give too much of one thing, it can lock out something else. At week 3 you should stop using grow nutes and move on to the bloom, higher pk and less n. Nitrogen slows flowering, the plant will pull what it needs from its leaves, hence the yellowing towards the end of flowering. I was giving my plants full strength grow, plus 1ml per litre of nitrogen. When they started to flower the pistils had a green tint to them. I was told this was too much nitrogen, so when i started the bloom nutes at 3 weeks i stopped the nitrogen. 3 weeks later and the colas are huge and pure white pistils now. I now feed half strength bloom with 1ml per litre potash, plants are really healthy and the fan leaves are just starting to lighten as the plant uses the nitrogen stored up. If i were you i would only give bloom nutes and water to at least 20% run off to start losing the excess salts in the soil.
This is my 4th grow, i lost the last one because the leaves literally yellowed more by the hour!

Hey guys.... As i said before i have cut the nutes in half, and i think they look better now.. again, this is my first grow, so i dont really know how big the buds should be at this point.. well.. we'll see
will post pics soon.. thanks