White patches on seedling

Beezelbuz

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Growing in coco with ph tap water at 5.6 - 5.9 with no nutes. Tap water is super hard right now at .65 uc.

She popped about 4 days ago and was doing great and this morning woke up to see her with big white patches on both leaves.

All reading I've done suggests she doesn't need nutes yet. So I'm thinking this isn't a feedings issue must be ph or something else. Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
 

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OldMedUser

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Does your coco come pre-charged with nutes? Sprouts need some kind of food right from the start so you should have watered with low dose nutes before the seed even sprouted.

Sprouts in soil don't need feeding right away as the soil, (even crappy potting soil), has some nutrients in it right out of the bags. In soilless mixes like coco or the ProMix HP I use there is nothing for the babies to eat so food must be supplied from the get go. I'll moisten the HP with a half dose of seaweed ferts then switch to AN 3-part at 1/4 strength once they have a couple nodes on them.

Have you been spraying that sprout? If so stop as it looks like either PM starting or light bleaching going on there.

I'd switch out to RO water with a dash of CalMag as well. Crappy tap water is not the way to go.

:peace:
 

Beezelbuz

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Does your coco come pre-charged with nutes? Sprouts need some kind of food right from the start so you should have watered with low dose nutes before the seed even sprouted.

Sprouts in soil don't need feeding right away as the soil, (even crappy potting soil), has some nutrients in it right out of the bags. In soilless mixes like coco or the ProMix HP I use there is nothing for the babies to eat so food must be supplied from the get go. I'll moisten the HP with a half dose of seaweed ferts then switch to AN 3-part at 1/4 strength once they have a couple nodes on them.

Have you been spraying that sprout? If so stop as it looks like either PM starting or light bleaching going on there.

I'd switch out to RO water with a dash of CalMag as well. Crappy tap water is not the way to go.

:peace:
I treated the coco with cal/mag for the ionization issue with coco but other than that no nutes. I'll start giving her a small bit of nutes and see how she goes... I did just move her like 20 inches closer to the light the 2 nights before maybe I'll move back down.

What is pm?
 

MickFoster

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I start feeding daily to run off from sprout........never give plain water.
These are 7 days from sprout for a comparison.
Veg 7 days 11-1-21.jpg
Good luck.

Is that cup clear?
Does it have drain holes?
 

Beezelbuz

Active Member
I'm assuming he's asking if the light is at 100%, and if so, you definitely want to dial it down to about 50%.
Thanks for the tip but can you explain why? All the research I've done so far on the subject seems to indicate that as long as the heat from the light source is not hurting the plant you can pump as much rays as you want at them.

Any docs on the subject would be appreciated as well thanks
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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Thanks for the tip but can you explain why? All the research I've done so far on the subject seems to indicate that as long as the heat from the light source is not hurting the plant you can pump as much rays as you want at them.

Any docs on the subject would be appreciated as well thanks
you don't want to try giving seedlings the same amount of light you give a plant with 3 or 4 nodes, it'll burn them..

https://bioslighting.com/horticulture-lighting/led-grow-light-distance-chart/
Where Should Grow Lights Be Located?

For seedlings, LED grow lights should generally be mounted between 24-36 inches above the plant canopy – however, this depends on the power (wattage) of the light source. Locate your LED grow lights at the furthest distance from the seedlings (~36”) – this keeps heat and light intensity levels lower and helps prevent seedlings from drying out. Once roots have been established and sprouting has started, the lights can be moved closer (usually within the first 2-3 weeks).


In the vegetative stage, LED grow lights should be between 12-24 inches away from the top of the canopy. During this stage, more light is needed for photosynthesis, so the light source should be located closer to the plants.


As the plants progress through the flowering stage, their demand for intense light decreases. The top leaves of the canopy should be between 18-24 inches from the light source to produce flowers. It is at this stage that the plants increase in height and grow fruit. Depending on lights and how you want your crop to grow, it is not necessary to change the height of the lights during flowering, especially if you do not want taller plants.

How Far Should LED Grow Lights be from Seedlings?

At the very early stages of growth, seedlings are delicate and require less light intensity. This means you do not want to turn up the intensity too early as the seedlings will thrive with a far gentler approach. Depending on the size of the light, it is safe to keep grow lights located somewhere between 24-36 inches from the top of the soil.

How Far LED Grow Lights Should be From Clones

Cannabis cloning is a process where clippings or cuttings from a mature plant are used to grow another plant of the same kind. The LED grow light distance above the clones differs from the height required for seedlings. With clones, they will need intense light to begin. Depending on the power of the light and maturity of the plants, this could vary quite a bit between 14-36 inches from the top of the plant canopy.
 

LKABudMan

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Thanks for the tip but can you explain why? All the research I've done so far on the subject seems to indicate that as long as the heat from the light source is not hurting the plant you can pump as much rays as you want at them.

Any docs on the subject would be appreciated as well thanks
I think a lot of this research was done before LEDs became popular. They run cooler, so you can burn your plant and it is not hot to your hand.
 
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