Which would produce more DO in a DWC?

Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Cold$moke said:
But the difference in DO @67 and @75 isnt enough for me to worry about

Most people have flow problems this causes the rot which gets blamed on many things.
And many things can cause the rot


I myself am doing a single plant with no light proofing and high water temps 76 ish
With hydrogaurd its doing fine

Next run im going to cut the hydrogaurd to see what the cut off is fir my setup and environment
:)
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I’ll be watching that one, I was chilling and using HG when I had the root issues (ones in 5 years) so I’m not sure which one or both saved the girls from imminent death lol
 
Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Cold$moke said:
Its not like i wouldnt rather my water stay at 68 i would but im not going to chill

When i get my new system running mabey ill have this figured out for ya :)
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You have permafrost there right lol. My glycol loop does chilling for 8 months a year and draws 160 watts when on :). But yup I hear you about a new setup ;).
 
Cold$moke

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Budley Doright said:
You have permafrost there right lol. My glycol loop does chilling for 8 months a year and draws 160 watts when on :). But yup I hear you about a new setup ;).
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Ha ha i know i remember askin you about it
Im too lazy to dig a big hole lol

But for 9 months of the year i could use it just running under my shed.

But i want to simplify things now ....if dirt werent so dirty id switch to organics but i just love hydro too much to leave it for dirt yet. So much cleaner and more pest free
 
PetFlora

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My recent twist on an old technique is LPA using high pressure mist heads.

The pump is on a deep cycle timer:currently running 2 minutes on/15 minutes off. I would prefer 1 minute on and a shorter mist cycle (~10 minutes), but, it takes a bit for my 260 gph pump to get a nice spray. I have thought about a larger volume lp pump, but have not yet pulled the trigger

This to replace my long standing DIY bubbler, which works great, BUT, I need longer roots for when I transfer into my grow totes. I suppose I could use a deeper bubble tote, but that means even more nutes

So far, I am very pleased

hth

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Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Cold$moke said:
Ha ha i know i remember askin you about it
Im too lazy to dig a big hole lol

But for 9 months of the year i could use it just running under my shed.

But i want to simplify things now ....if dirt werent so dirty id switch to organics but i just love hydro too much to leave it for dirt yet. So much cleaner and more pest free
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Fuck I forget who I reply to here lol, get confused a lot :(. Yup I switched to hydro to get rid of gnats lol
 
JSB99

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Now that I can take accurate readings of my water, I see that I'm hovering between 70 and 71. I've been adding frozen water jugs here and there, to bring it down to 68. It's a temporary solution. It's easy, and I've got lots of room in my freezer for jugs.

I'm going to get a chiller, when I can afford it. I figured out how I can have the chiller in the grow room, without effecting temps. I'm going to keep it in a cabinet in the corner. I'm going to have a hole in the floor, and 4" duct + fan going up to the ceiling, exhausting into the attic. I'm basically isolating it from the room. I don't even think I'll have to insulate the cabinet because the fan should be able to provide enough flow to keep everything cool.
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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PetFlora said:
My recent twist on an old technique is LPA using high pressure mist heads.

The pump is on a deep cycle timer:currently running 2 minutes on/15 minutes off. I would prefer 1 minute on and a shorter mist cycle (~10 minutes), but, it takes a bit for my 260 gph pump to get a nice spray. I have thought about a larger volume lp pump, but have not yet pulled the trigger

This to replace my long standing DIY bubbler, which works great, BUT, I need longer roots for when I transfer into my grow totes. I suppose I could use a deeper bubble tote, but that means even more nutes

So far, I am very pleased

hth

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Sprayers are GREAT for cloners

Through exp i will NOT use them for anything else . I HATE clogged spray heads
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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JSB99 said:
Now that I can take accurate readings of my water, I see that I'm hovering between 70 and 71. I've been adding frozen water jugs here and there, to bring it down to 68. It's a temporary solution. It's easy, and I've got lots of room in my freezer for jugs.

I'm going to get a chiller, when I can afford it. I figured out how I can have the chiller in the grow room, without effecting temps. I'm going to keep it in a cabinet in the corner. I'm going to have a hole in the floor, and 4" duct + fan going up to the ceiling, exhausting into the attic. I'm basically isolating it from the room. I don't even think I'll have to insulate the cabinet because the fan should be able to provide enough flow to keep everything cool.
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This is what led me to think about other systems

I was like no way im going to run a whole bunch of extra gear just so i can grow a plant lol

Then i think well what is major AGRI using?
Its not rdwc lol

This next run when i cut out the hydrogaurd im going to see if the high temps hurt me .

But i refuse to PAY to keep things cold when i live close to an arctic climate (snowing out today :))
 
JSB99

JSB99

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Cold$moke said:
This is what led me to think about other systems

I was like no way im going to run a whole bunch of extra gear just so i can grow a plant lol

Then i think well what is major AGRI using?
Its not rdwc lol

This next run when i cut out the hydrogaurd im going to see if the high temps hurt me .

But i refuse to PAY to keep things cold when i live close to an arctic climate (snowing out today :))
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You definitely have more options to use nature for most of the year. I'm contemplating doing a coco grow after harvest. It'll be summer, and I'm not going to be able to afford a chiller yet. It's so easy to take the totes out. I can even cap of the reservoir bulkhead, and use the pump and res to water the plants each day.
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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PetFlora said:
If you are using corase salts that is a likely problem. This can be resolved by dissolving them in warm water, the diluting

Here are my roots some 2 weeks from seed. No clogging issues here
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No i meant EVENTUALLY they will clog .

Ive used sprayers with many differnt nutreint lines .

Theres not many out there that wont clog a sprayer after 2 plus months in my experience

Again for a veg unit and cloner they are fine .

But i will not flower with them
:)
 
PetFlora

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Now you've challenged me to keep one in this set up. My thought is you were using the 'wrong' mist heads
 
Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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PetFlora said:
Now you've challenged me to keep one in this set up. My thought is you were using the 'wrong' mist heads
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No challenge i was using ez clone sprayers not hp spay heads like you are.

Go for it if you like but i have had them fail me and will not trust them when there are more simpler setups .

They are fun to play with in a mad scientist kinda way though :)

You can grow to bud just fine

but when you grow them for long periods like i do it doesnt make much sense especially after failures .

You know fool me twice ;)
 
PetFlora

PetFlora

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Cold$moke said:
No challenge i was using ez clone sprayers not hp spay heads like you are.

Go for it if you like but i have had them fail me and will not trust them when there are more simpler setups .

They are fun to play with in a mad scientist kinda way though :)

You can grow to bud just fine

but when you grow them for long periods like i do it doesnt make much sense especially after failures .

You know fool me twice ;)
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I get you. No, you did not challenge me, but color me curious. Now, when I was doing hpa way back in 2010ish, I had clogging issues, but that was due to my ignorance regarding mixing organic supplements, which clogged the screens. I added an in line filter, but still had the problem. Switching from microbes .to enzymes and aminos should solve that issue

Time will tell
 
kingtitan

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JSB99 said:
Now that I can take accurate readings of my water, I see that I'm hovering between 70 and 71. I've been adding frozen water jugs here and there, to bring it down to 68. It's a temporary solution. It's easy, and I've got lots of room in my freezer for jugs.

I'm going to get a chiller, when I can afford it. I figured out how I can have the chiller in the grow room, without effecting temps. I'm going to keep it in a cabinet in the corner. I'm going to have a hole in the floor, and 4" duct + fan going up to the ceiling, exhausting into the attic. I'm basically isolating it from the room. I don't even think I'll have to insulate the cabinet because the fan should be able to provide enough flow to keep everything cool.
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Maybe after my cycle is done I can lure you to the world of microbes ;)
 
JSB99

JSB99

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I pruned and trimmed these last night because they got so bushy, so quickly. Today, they have almost filled themselves out again. I may alternate between RDWC and coco, so I can have a mellow grow once in a while :). DWC takes a lot of attention, even with a stable system.

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Cold$moke

Cold$moke

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kingtitan said:
I am in the same boat with microbes hard to find with all the bans. Brew your own tea, working well for me.
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I had a problem because i switched from a semi organic nutrient to a straight salt based.

So i added hydrogaurd im my res is constantly between 68-77 depending on the time of day

Everything is ok so far with white white roots :)

Except for last night i found out one of the bagseed plants was a TRANNY. Lol

I cut her dick off and gave the extra room to the real girls lol
 
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