LAX Skunky BwS
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whats funny is everyone is gonna give different opinions about whos got the best genetics...no one is ever gonna be on the same page..some people like other breeders more than others & some don't
well put. i am only on my second go, and ordered Nirvana for it. So far they are starting much better than my bagseeds, but obviously, that doesnt say much. Iam of the opinion that is as you state, the quality is almost random (mine specifically were from Sativa Seedbank, or at least so the packaging stated). i have only germed less than half of what i ordered, with much success so far, but the fear of the others not being good still lingers.I have climbed on my soap box enough times here and delivered my sermon as to why I feel the way I do about Nirvana that I did not feel it necessary to deliver the sermon again. It is not a case of "hate," as you incorrectly described it and instead years of learning about Nirvana.
Nirvana does have some good genetics but the problem is you cannot bank on receiving those genetics. Their beans are made by 'outside contractors' and they are not all the highest skilled and based on the frequency of shoddy genetics or strains other than what were ordered being delivered, in part because those who make their seeds not always being honest as to what was made or equally possibly due to error and mixing up the seeds they make the odds of receiving something other than what was ordered is not slight.
Over the years I have not seen more complaints about any other breeder/seedbank. Questionable and or shoddy genetics, low germ rates, poor growth, poor results beyond that which could be blamed on every single person who tried their genetics and were unhappy.
The worst of the worst though is I have read of and known people who were unhappy with Nirvana and who did complain, but did so in a polite manner, and Nirvana's response was to back off or they would send the customer's personal information to the person's local law enforcement agency.
I am not saying that Nirvana has ever ratted anyone out but any breeder/seedbank that would even threaten to rat someone out to save themselves the cost of a refund or replacing unsatisfactory beans is not a breeder/seedbank that I would ever consider giving a single penny of my money to.
Personally I cannot for the life of me understand how Nirvana has managed to remain in business for so long. I tend to believe that it is only because it is somewhat like AOL and it attracts all the new crowd who simply do not know any better than to pick them. That and likely they have never experienced true quality genetics and what they get from Nirvana seems good to them, and better than what they had purchased on the streets before, so they are as happy as a pig in .... well they are happy enough so they stick with Nirvana and they tell others to purchase Nirvana gear ... but to me it is sort of like having a fat babe to poke when someone first begins to play hide the weenie. It seems great and they love it but until they bag that first 101 pound hot as the fires of Hades blonde they will never realize what they are actually missing.
Puppies flock to Nirvana but the old hounds flock to Reeferman and to Shantibaba/Mr. Nice Seeds and to Sagarmatha and to Sensi Seeds, etc. because they know for sure that true quality can and will be found there each time they make a purchase.
this is basically what i was trying to get at with my previous posts, but also referring to banks.whats funny is everyone is gonna give different opinions about whos got the best genetics...no one is ever gonna be on the same page..some people like other breeders more than others & some don't
Look no offense, but I don't you from Pablo...I'm clueless how many times you've railed against nirvana. Don't expect to wade through thousands of threads to catch up...please.I have climbed on my soap box enough times here and delivered my sermon as to why I feel the way I do about Nirvana that I did not feel it necessary to deliver the sermon again. It is not a case of "hate," as you incorrectly described it and instead years of learning about Nirvana. ..
Its ashame cuz DNA Genetics dont ship to the USASteathiest: nirvana
Best genetics: DNA Genetics
Fastest shipping: nirvana shop, the single seed centre
both places my orders came within 5-7 business days.
DNA trumps Nirvana IMO by alot. And single seed centre has cheap shipping. They replaced an order that was confiscated even though I didn't pay for Guaranteed Shipping.
I have bought 4 strains from Nirvana. Out of the 2 that came directly from Nirvana, an entire 5 pack was way immature. The replacement was just as immature. Out of ten seeds, 7 germed and 6 of the 7 are stunted and flowering slowly. The other two strains from them grew madly. The singles I received from Single Seed Centre that were Nirvana strains looked betterthan the ones directly from Nirvana. Both