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ANC

ANC

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Hepheastus420 said:
Or you could just take away their tv or something like that. I mean yeah hitting teaches kids, but you can go about it a whole other way. People are so caught up in the whole "back in my day" thing that they don't see how it's still wrong.
People used to own slaves and I'm sure their offspring was like "my dad owns slaves, so I should go out and buy one too". It's still fucked up even if your parents did it. Sorry ANC.. hardly any of this was aimed at you lol.
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Wait, and spend more of my time policeing their TV time?
If a child does not listen to requests, warnings and promises of outcome, he might not believe it will happen. The real world will punish your child for missteps to the maximum extent of the law.

I have a serious problem with kids running around like mad apes in shops and absolutely wipeing their arses on anything their parent might say.

I respect your decision not to use corporal punishment but expect the same respect for my choices unless it is evident that I abuse my child.
The moment we let other people decide how we raise our children is the moment we gave over the last of our controls to others.
 
ANC

ANC

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Hepheastus420 said:
But what's within reason? Some people would say that multiple bruises just means that they give their kid "tough love".
I had a little girl (9-ish) come to my place one time because she was hiding from her parents. She showed me her arms and legs and they had bruises on them. She was gonna show me some bruises under her shirt but I was like "nononononono". LOL I called the cops and waited outside with her since I'm pretty sure people would raise their eyebrows if some dude brought in a little panicked girl lol. The cops gave the kid up to her grandma that lives out of town. Point is, her parents probably thought they were teaching her some manners but in reality, they just scared the shit out of her.
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This kid has clearly been beaten in anger on any available body surface.
A hiding as punishment is not done like that kind of violent response.
 
bluntmassa1

bluntmassa1

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I got a kid she drives me crazy but I can't hit her hard I tried smacking her ass but she just smiles like its a game I can't bring myself to hit my kid half as hard as my dad did to me plus I don't want my kid to hate me getting beat makes your kids mad they may be scared of you but they've probally thought about killing you to nobody likes to get beat I thought about it when I was a kid I even wished my dad would die from cancer fucked up thing is he died when I was 16 from lung cancer. but if I never got beaten I would have never wished death on him if you want your kids to hate you and become junkies go ahead and beat them. otherwise don't beat them cause they will not get better only worse I was selling hard drugs at 15 years old but my brother got hooked on shooting dope he was 16 years old first time he shot up and hes doing a 15 1/2-37 yrs in prison been their since he was 18 years old
 
DuplicatePie

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PappaBear said:
the line should be depend according to the hard headiness of the child. but not all children understand their ass whoopins.. some you can some you cant.. but all of them like all of us, need our ass whooped on occasion what ever the excuse.
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Ummm....No.
 
DuplicatePie

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high|hgih said:
I think one should be aloud to punish their child however they please. Sometimes it goes too far, in all seriousness... But really Id say a good 80% of child abuse cases are uncalled for

I remember I tried to get rid of my step dad saying he beat me and he was sooo angry. It was the most retarded thing I ever did. But I hated the dude he needed to be gone lol before I got step dad abuse charges

But he stayed and ruined my childhood :(
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This post doesn't make sense. First you say that a parent should be able to disfigure a kid if that's what they choose to do as punishment, then you pull a completely random number out of thin air that represents how many child abuse cases are BS, I doubt you're a social worker, and then you go on to say how the way your step dad disciplined/punished you ended up ruining your childhood.
 
DuplicatePie

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Hepheastus420 said:
Yup. My dad is an asshole. He was known as the dick dad. He'd try to help me with my homework (and when I was in elementary I wasn't very good at math). If I got an answer wrong or couldn't answer quick enough he'd get mad and pinch me. Afterwards he'd tell me good job or some shit which would cinvince me that his pinches are for my own good ha.
It fucked with my mind. I loved my dad, but kind of out of fear. People would ask me if I was fine and I'd just be like "fuck off". It's embarrassing having a ass dad. Everybody is like "oh I did so and so with my old man" and I'm like.. :( cool lol. That's why I said I wouldn't embarrass the kid by beating his dads ass in front of him in your other thread. I'd rather let the kid think that he has a good dad. Whoo!! My sob story for the week lol.
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As fucked up as it is, this is reminiscent of my childhood. This is why I always question whether it's a good thing to get involved when you seen a parent being fucked up to their kid. Yes, maybe you helped out in that instance, but you may have just made things twice as bad for the kid when they get home.
 
DuplicatePie

DuplicatePie

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Hepheastus420 said:
Yeah. Saying it's "reasonably justified" doesn't draw a line like you asked. I think the line is the moment you lay one hand on your kid. At that moment I think you deserve to get your ass kicked the next time you make a mistake. Adults only hit younger kids because they're stronger. When kids become older, you can't hit them anymore without a real fist fight breaking out lol. You don't have to prove your strength to your kid, save that for somebody that deserves it. All your kid needs to know is that you love them and right from wrong (which can be taught without hitting).

I forgot about vocal abuse. That shit is the worst kind of abuse. That goes directly to your child's mentality. That could fuck them up for life. Hitting can be understandable to a limit since people do get frustrated (like other animals), but when you bring real emotion into it, that's when it gets really out of hand.
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Vocal abuse was my childhood. To any parent reading this don't constantly flip out on your kids. You can make your point in a normal voice, using decent words. Doing shit like that WILL cause your kids to HATE you and WISH you were DEAD. I know sometimes it feels like they aren't listening, but just because you go insane on them doesn't mean that your point got across to them. Kids are smart, explain things to them.
 
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DuplicatePie said:
No, they can't. Thankfully beating the shit out of your kids because you're an idiot isn't favored by the law or CPS.
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i didn't say anything about "beating the shit out of your kids" i'm saying if somebody wants to smack their kids when they get out of line that is their own choice.
 
neosapien

neosapien

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If I got out of line, I got put over their knee and was on the receiving end of 1 swift and forceful wack. It taught me the age old lesson that every action has a reaction. I don't condone beating the shit out of your kid, but I do condone somehow showing your kid that actions have consequences. I was a kid at one time...thats what I'm basing my opinion on. No kids. Yet.
 
chrishydro

chrishydro

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Single Dad, 51 raised two kids, one boy one girl. When we grew up people spanked their kids, I hated it so chose not to ever spank my kids when they were growing up.. There are other ways to disapline your kids. Taking things away, grounding them etc. The problem today is people are not spanking their kids they are kicking the shit out of them. Starving them, locking them up in rooms for years at a time. The guy on the tv whipping the kid over and over for not catching the ball should be locked up period and when let out never be allowed to be around another child ever. If people that commit any type of child abuse were made to register like sex offenders we would not see repeat cases as much.
 
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neosapien said:
If I got out of line, I got put over their knee and was on the receiving end of 1 swift and forceful wack. It taught me the age old lesson that every action has a reaction. I don't condone beating the shit out of your kid, but I do condone somehow showing your kid that actions have consequences. I was a kid at one time...thats what I'm basing my opinion on. No kids. Yet.
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this is what i was talking about when i said "with in reason"
 
Dislexicmidget2021

Dislexicmidget2021

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You discipline the kid when he has been repeatedly disrespectful or out of line after giving them warning,not when they are incapable of doing something you wanna see out of them,you have to teach them in a manner that is constructive and positive, then they will learn over time.I have a 6 yr old brother who ive been there for since birth,so I have this experience of my own to draw from.
 
MrFrance

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I used to get the dreaded 'you have until the count of 3' or I would feel it by mom. Dad would just ignore me.

my history teacher would pull/drag us by the sideburns. I spat on him when he was chalking the blackboard once!

apart from that we all nose where the line is.
 
ANC

ANC

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would yuo have spat on him, knowing he was allowed to slap the crap out of you?
 
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