When to defoliate?

Sokofofat

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Looking to defoliate/lollipop and I want to know if I should defoliate during veg then flip to 12/12 or change the light schedule first then defoliate, or wait until I start to see buds to defoliate. My main goal is density, smell and potency, not yield.

Open to any ideas and different perspectives.
 

VRZ711

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Looking to defoliate/lollipop and I want to know if I should defoliate during veg then flip to 12/12 or change the light schedule first then defoliate, or wait until I start to see buds to defoliate. My main goal is density, smell and potency, not yield.

Open to any ideas and different perspectives.
first you defoliate and lolipop 1 week before the flip, make sure to remove only the fan leaves that don't get light (don't over do it) better to do it on iterations of 3 days

then at week 3 of flower, you do light defoliation(only unneeded leaves that don't get light), better to do it on iterations of 3 days.
at week 6 of flower you do a light defoliation, better to do it on iterations of 3 days.

just don't strip the plant naked
 

Sokofofat

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first you defoliate and lolipop 1 week before the flip, make sure to remove only the fan leaves that don't get light (don't over do it) better to do it on iterations of 3 days

then at week 3 of flower, you do light defoliation(only unneeded leaves that don't get light), better to do it on iterations of 3 days.
at week 6 of flower you do a light defoliation, better to do it on iterations of 3 days.

just don't strip the plant naked
Sounds good. Just lollipopped so I will flip in a week.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Looking to defoliate/lollipop and I want to know if I should defoliate during veg then flip to 12/12 or change the light schedule first then defoliate, or wait until I start to see buds to defoliate. My main goal is density, smell and potency, not yield.

Open to any ideas and different perspectives.
All the above things you listed have absolutely nothing to do with defoliation. Density, smell, and potency are all strictly related to genetics (assuming a perfect environment).
 

Sokofofat

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All the above things you listed have absolutely nothing to do with defoliation. Density, smell, and potency are all strictly related to genetics (assuming a perfect environment).
So your saying proper defoliation or lollipopping will have no effect on bud density and potency? Or at least wont get you any better results than not defoliating/lollipopping
 

twentyeight.threefive

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So your saying proper defoliation or lollipopping will have no effect on bud density and potency? Or at least wont get you any better results than not defoliating/lollipopping
Correct. Lollipopping only removes the lower growth so you aren't trimming larf at the end of the grow. May have a small impact on bud size as the plant only focuses growth on what's left of the plant. But yield wasn't on your checklist.
 

Sokofofat

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Correct. Lollipopping only removes the lower growth so you aren't trimming larf at the end of the grow. May have a small impact on bud size as the plant only focuses growth on what's left of the plant. But yield wasn't on your checklist.
Okay good to know! I've heard that certain kinds of stress can signal the plant to put more energy into bud production. Things like lower night time temps, light defoliation and lower budsite removal periodically throughout flower, longer dark period in late flower 10/14. Thoughts on this?
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Okay good to know! I've heard that certain kinds of stress can signal the plant to put more energy into bud production. Things like lower night time temps, light defoliation and lower budsite removal periodically throughout flower, longer dark period in late flower 10/14. Thoughts on this?
Sounds like you've been reading the book of bro-science. Slightly lower night time temps are normal from the lack of light. Run 12/12.
 

twentyeight.threefive

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Theres a lot of bro-science all over RIU, just trying to parse it out. Don't plants in the wild react to lower and lower night temps as it gets colder in the fall?
Very true. Takes a lot of effort to weed out the good info from the bad. Yes plants in general react to colder temperatures. Growers look for the best environmental conditions, nature isn't always the best.
 

Sokofofat

Active Member
Very true. Takes a lot of effort to weed out the good info from the bad. Yes plants in general react to colder temperatures. Growers look for the best environmental conditions, nature isn't always the best.
Completely agree! I have a hunch that slowly reducing night time temps through flower will drive more energy to buds, Ill have to test it out myself to be sure though.
 
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