Wilderb
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The whole flower process is to mimic fall, so yes.
Now is the time to start thinking about the cure......
When do I start final flush
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Now is the time to start thinking about the cure......
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
no, no chemical taste by not flushing..
some nutrients are mobile, some are immobile.. mobile and immobile mean exactly what they sound like.. mobile elements can move around in the plant where they're needed, where as immobile nutes can not move freely in the plant. being that some nutrients are immobile, there's no amount of water that you can dump through the soil that is going to remove these type of nutrients as that's not how they work, being immobile and all.. that's just one example as to why flushing is a myth..
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
no, no higher levels of cbd.. i've yet to find a plant that lacks clear trics and mostly all cloudy with a small percentage, say 10-15% or so amber, where the hairs haven't mostly all receded back into the bud.. i've tried cutting early on one crop where the hairs were not fully receded, biggest mistake of my grow life.. high was very short lasting, crappy buzz over all, i could go on and on, but yeah, no.. imvho, if the hairs aren't receded, it's not ready to come down.
nfhiggs
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Agree - flushing is for toilets and sick plants. Finish her healthy and strong.
Bechnutnascar
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WeedFreak78
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Those are the two things I look for when the end is near. The majority of pistils will start receding into the calyx, this is the plant trying to pull pollen in at the ends for seed production. After that the calyx, or what would've been the seed pod, will swell as if its producing seeds, but it's not, just weight and resins. I usually wait for the calyx to stop swelling, then start checking trics. I'll admit, I don't even check trics half the time, usually just new strains. You get to know what a done plant looks like..... golden hue with a milky frost.
racerboy71
bud bootlegger
i completely agree, but it's hard to tell a newb what finished looks like, but imo, once you see it, you'll know it when you see it again..
Dylanfurlong
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thanks I have just bought one but it is 30x the trichoms still look clear though at day 45 from 12/12 atm
dagwood45431
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Great information in this thread! Thank you!
Antman15
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CBN not CBD
nfhiggs
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I wouldn't expect to see much at 6 weeks.
Axle4worc
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If you didn't hit them with pk at first signs of sex, expect about 2 extra weeks of flowering. Most breeders calculate the shortest flowering with early flower nutes. Probably shouldn't even bother checking trichomes till day 62. When most of the white hairs are gone is when I start checking.
CouchGouch
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I can't see where it's mentioned that the chosen medium is soil. But will give my uneducated 2 cents in terms of hydro and soiless grows.
In hydro a few days flush is a good precaution considering you spent 3-4 months growing it. I used to smoke solid for years, then it was replaced by green, I guess growing it was cheaper than smuggling it from morocco or whatever.
Some of it would taste very harsh, rank rotten and tear your throat/lungs up, the ash would be black and hard and you would often have your joint/bucket exploding/popping in your face. I've not really smoked that in years, maybe at the time a lot of now banned chemicals were used.
I think a few days flush for a better smoke can't do any harm. If you really need a smoke harvest a couple of grams.
Especially in hydro where, if you're like me, are feeding with copious amounts of chemicals. No pgr's but a lot of metals, etc found in micro for example. Maybe they're harmless but I think these were developed to grow food to be eaten, not herbs tonne combusted and inhaled (which forms whole new chemicals in itself )
I agree that your yield can be affected if you flush too early but you can read the plant and tell when it's stopped packing weight. I like a high cbd smoke or 50/50ish as clear trics give me major paranioa, strain dependant Ofc, so a late flush suits me and gives peace of mind.
evidence and research into the effects of using these chemicals is not exactly plentiful. In fact, the long term effects of smoking this weed are unknown, the old seedy cross pollinated weed the hippies of the 60s-80s smoked is a different game to what's been developed over the past 20 years
So being cautious before burning stuff and inhaling it can only be a good thing. Injestion and smoking can't be compared in my opinion. I can't imagine smoking a greggs sausage roll being as safe as eating one.
And if anyone for some reason, hypothetically, ended up smoking anything I had grown I'd be questioning my values and the ethical questions that go with it.
But if you and you alone are smoking your herb then that's your choice, it's your health.
Just realised how big this post is, pretty baked
In hydro a few days flush is a good precaution considering you spent 3-4 months growing it. I used to smoke solid for years, then it was replaced by green, I guess growing it was cheaper than smuggling it from morocco or whatever.
Some of it would taste very harsh, rank rotten and tear your throat/lungs up, the ash would be black and hard and you would often have your joint/bucket exploding/popping in your face. I've not really smoked that in years, maybe at the time a lot of now banned chemicals were used.
I think a few days flush for a better smoke can't do any harm. If you really need a smoke harvest a couple of grams.
Especially in hydro where, if you're like me, are feeding with copious amounts of chemicals. No pgr's but a lot of metals, etc found in micro for example. Maybe they're harmless but I think these were developed to grow food to be eaten, not herbs tonne combusted and inhaled (which forms whole new chemicals in itself )
I agree that your yield can be affected if you flush too early but you can read the plant and tell when it's stopped packing weight. I like a high cbd smoke or 50/50ish as clear trics give me major paranioa, strain dependant Ofc, so a late flush suits me and gives peace of mind.
evidence and research into the effects of using these chemicals is not exactly plentiful. In fact, the long term effects of smoking this weed are unknown, the old seedy cross pollinated weed the hippies of the 60s-80s smoked is a different game to what's been developed over the past 20 years
So being cautious before burning stuff and inhaling it can only be a good thing. Injestion and smoking can't be compared in my opinion. I can't imagine smoking a greggs sausage roll being as safe as eating one.
And if anyone for some reason, hypothetically, ended up smoking anything I had grown I'd be questioning my values and the ethical questions that go with it.
But if you and you alone are smoking your herb then that's your choice, it's your health.
Just realised how big this post is, pretty baked
Lucky Luke
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when u have finished your number two's.
Flushing and backing off on the nutes are two completely separate things that often get mixed up. Flushing is a term not used in the horticulture area..at all. Its a pure stoner term for leaching. Which does have its uses but generally not at the end of the grow cycle.
And neither will rid the buds of any chemicals they have taken on in the grow.
Curing and drying are the number 1 things that contributes to a quality smoke.
Flushing and backing off on the nutes are two completely separate things that often get mixed up. Flushing is a term not used in the horticulture area..at all. Its a pure stoner term for leaching. Which does have its uses but generally not at the end of the grow cycle.
And neither will rid the buds of any chemicals they have taken on in the grow.
Curing and drying are the number 1 things that contributes to a quality smoke.
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cool2burn
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That's the answer to your question right there for 3 to 4 months these nutrients of been in the plant growing it there is no flushing that will remove any of it. All that you're doing is stopping production this is a huge incorrect stoner myth
CouchGouch
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But if a plant is deprived of whatever chemical which it needs to grow it will show a deficiency fairly quickly, therefore is lacking that chemical. When you stop feeding the plant starts feeding from itself,or what's stored in its leaf, I don't know the science behind it but that indicates to me it is eradicating whatever chemical from it's system.
I could drink alcohol and snort cocaine for 3 to 4 months and my system being intoxicated with
cocaethylene, but a few days detox with plenty of water and the toxicity will reduce.
I'm not saying that I'm right, but arguing for the sake of health there is no harm in a few days flush as a precaution
fridayfishfry
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Flush when you see the first orange hairs. Don't worry about the trichs, they'll be milky. Flush twice preferably with RO or Distilled; the last ten days in hydro+rockwool. I have good tasting bud, how about you? 
toaster struedel
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Some chemicals state right in their directions, flush for 5 days. I grow in hydroton, and I always flush if for no other reason than to eliminate some of the cloraphyll. However the hell ya spell it.
cool2burn
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Wow you know nothing about the science... Maybe letting it sit in the dark for 5 days might kill some chlorophyll however that usually takes quite a bit of curing to accomplish.
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cool2burn
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Well thats about 10 days you reduced food made your buds a bit smaller with just a little less THC. And believe me they taste the same with or without flush. That is up to genetics, lights and proper nutes during the grow.Flush when you see the first orange hairs. Don't worry about the trichs, they'll be milky. Flush twice preferably with RO or Distilled; the last ten days in hydro+rockwool. I have good tasting bud, how about you?
