What's your take on Colin Kaepernicks refusal to stand for National Anthem

TacoMac

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You`re too stupid to know that there would be no America if not for your dead and living vets.

It stands for America and that was never changed or said to be changed. A baiter like you is expected to make false claims like your post I quoted.

Anything else ? Did you figure out where the big sticks are ?
Somewhere there's a doctor that got your medication all wrong.
 

OddBall1st

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No jackass there would be no America without the constitution and Americans

And those Military are defending ? That document is why they can do the deed. When you go to war declared by Congress the Commanding Officer carries a warrant backed by the US Constitution. Yes, there`s paperwork.

It`s obvious you have no clue how that Constitution came about. And why we need to stop cutting education funds.
 
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OddBall1st

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That's now how it works though. You could have the most corrupt officer that exists, and have him attack and rape a child, then the Police Union and full Blue Code or whatever will 100% be behind him and support him to get charges dropped. If there were so many honest cops, we wouldn't have so many corrupt cops.

So what part of what you just posted has to do with the farmer, the grocery store owner, payless shoes, doctors and nurses ?

My entire point is,...go after the source of the problem, not the civilians. If a cop gave me a BS ticket, I ran and got shot, I would not go after my dentist for it.
 

OddBall1st

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That's now how it works though. You could have the most corrupt officer that exists, and have him attack and rape a child, then the Police Union and full Blue Code or whatever will 100% be behind him and support him to get charges dropped. If there were so many honest cops, we wouldn't have so many corrupt cops.

So what part of what you just posted has to do with the farmer, the grocery store owner, payless shoes, doctors and nurses ?

My entire point is,...go after the source of the problem, not the civilians. If a cop gave me a BS ticket, I ran and got shot, I would not go after my dentist for it.
 

xmatox

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And those Military are defending ? That document is why they can do the deed. When you go to war declared by Congress the Commanding Officer carries a warrant backed by the US Constitution. Yes, there`s paperwork.
I do agree that there would be no America today without it's soldiers and if you think otherwise you obviously know ZERO about our history. Although I would like to see the paperwork that got us into Iraq/Afghanistan.

Stalin and Hitler? Yikes! We are talking about someone who is fighting against police prejudice and brutality, and choose these two as your examples?

You keep mentioning that going after the farmer, store owner, etc is wrong and what I don't think you are understanding is that these are the people who's voice matters. If nurses, store owners, doctors, lawyers all stand up and say enough more people are going to listen vs. in 2016 if a black man complains about the cops most say get over it or they probably deserved it. It is going to take much more than even the entire black community to stand up. It takes America to change this problem, thus is why he addressed it in the way he did.
 

TacoMac

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Fucking stupid. You pseudo "patriots" are comical.
The really funny part of it all is that the nations flag has absolutely nothing to do with military personnel. It's just been warped into that by those that subscribe to McCarthyism, much like the "in God we trust" bullshit.

This nation was not founded on God. Quite the contrary, the founding fathers did everything they could to keep religion the hell out of it. It's even written into the constitution that no leader shall ever have to undergo any test of religion.

What's more, this country was not founded by the military. It was founded by the people.

But as for the flag, here's what it stands for:

Colors:
  • Red - Hardiness and valor
  • White - Purity and innocence
  • Blue - The Chief (President)
The 13 Stripes: A salute to the original 13 colonies that ratified the constitution.
The stars: Each state in the union.

There isn't one single part of that flag devoted to the military. Quite the contrary, it is the military that swears their loyalty TO that flag, and to die protecting it and what it stands for.

The military serves the flag, not the other way around.
 

bearkat42

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The really funny part of it all is that the nations flag has absolutely nothing to do with military personnel. It's just been warped into that by those that subscribe to McCarthyism, much like the "in God we trust" bullshit.

This nation was not founded on God. Quite the contrary, the founding fathers did everything they could to keep religion the hell out of it. It's even written into the constitution that no leader shall ever have to undergo any test of religion.

What's more, this country was not founded by the military. It was founded by the people.

But as for the flag, here's what it stands for:

Colors:
  • Red - Hardiness and valor
  • White - Purity and innocence
  • Blue - The Chief (President)
The 13 Stripes: A salute to the original 13 colonies that ratified the constitution.
The stars: Each state in the union.

There isn't one single part of that flag devoted to the military. Quite the contrary, it is the military that swears their loyalty TO that flag, and to die protecting it and what it stands for.

The military serves the flag, not the other way around.
Excellent post.
 

OddBall1st

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why would it be justified for a cop to shoot/kill you for running?

If I am unarmed it wont be justified and there is the problem we both know exists. There is also a problem of cops knowingly shooting to kill, for racist/hate reasons. The union that hires them, is also to blame,.. How do these guy get a badge ? None of that has anything to do with farmers, doctors and Payless shoes.

How can I justify going after my dentist when it was a cop that shot me ?
 

xmatox

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If I am unarmed it wont be justified and there is the problem we both know exists. There is also a problem of cops knowingly shooting to kill, for racist/hate reasons. The union that hires them, is also to blame,.. How do these guy get a badge ? None of that has anything to do with farmers, doctors and Payless shoes.

How can I justify going after my dentist when it was a cop that shot me ?
KP's anger has a direct target in which he has stated many times, and if a dentist, school teacher, store owner or whoever gets upset, then fuck em, this isn't about them. Honestly, this is just plain ignorance if a dentist or school teacher made this about them. When teachers go on strike they are hurting students and parents. I don't agree with taking kids out of school simply because the adults can't get their shit together, yet it's done all the time. Why do teachers take it out on the students and parents? This has nothing to do with the parent's and students.....

How does one prevent these cops from getting hired? How is it possible to vet a racist from day one? I have met some racist that didn't come out of the closet for awhile. Seems like we would have to use our best judgment. What scares me is that if some of the people on this site were in charge of that everyone would be racist.
 

OddBall1st

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KP's anger has a direct target in which he has stated many times, and if a dentist, school teacher, store owner or whoever gets upset, then fuck em, this isn't about them. Honestly, this is just plain ignorance if a dentist or school teacher made this about them. When teachers go on strike they are hurting students and parents. I don't agree with taking kids out of school simply because the adults can't get their shit together, yet it's done all the time. Why do teachers take it out on the students and parents? This has nothing to do with the parent's and students.....

How does one prevent these cops from getting hired? How is it possible to vet a racist from day one? I have met some racist that didn't come out of the closet for awhile. Seems like we would have to use our best judgment. What scares me is that if some of the people on this site were in charge of that everyone would be racist.
Maybe I should ask again,....

...Why would anyone go after their dentist for something a cop did to them ?
To answer your question, you can start by not graduating them as favors, and letting the community decide if that cop should be hired by his pledge to that community,....

...Just a random idea for you.
 

testiclees

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And those Military are defending ? That document is why they can do the deed. When you go to war declared by Congress the Commanding Officer carries a warrant backed by the US Constitution. Yes, there`s paperwork.

It`s obvious you have no clue how that Constitution came about. And why we need to stop cutting education funds.
You're an insecure clown claiming glory that has nothing to do with your service. Grow the fuck up son,

"...Just a random idea for you." bro ideas are not your thing, you're trippen if you think anyone here expects you to present anything worthwhile. delusional fuck
 

xmatox

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Maybe I should ask again,....

...Why would anyone go after their dentist for something a cop did to them ?
To answer your question, you can start by not graduating them as favors, and letting the community decide if that cop should be hired by his pledge to that community,....

...Just a random idea for you.
KP has made it very clear he isn't going after anyone but the police and if a dentist is that big of an asshole to believe it is about him, he is probably a shitty person, or a trump supporter.
 

OddBall1st

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You're an insecure clown claiming glory that has nothing to do with your service. Grow the fuck up son,

"...Just a random idea for you." bro ideas are not your thing, you're trippen if you think anyone here expects you to present anything worthwhile. delusional fuck

What glory have I claimed ? You do know the constitution was penned after the Revolutionary war, don`t you ? That flag has everything to do with victory from war.
 
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