If you believe that, then you don't get to complain about taxes. There wasn't a surge of poor people stricken with poverty since the 1950s, rich people figured out a way to shift the amount of taxes they pay onto you. Yet you cling to an obsolete political philosophy demanding they pay even less.. Simply genius
It is the government giving the corporations the tax breaks yet you consistently do not look at that 1/2 of the equation and see a problem with it, only the corporation side. Both sides are laughing at you BTW.General Electric, one of the world's largest companies, regularly pays NO TAX after deductions and write offs.
Boeing went on a national treasure hunt to find the best package of tax writeoffs and kickbacks in the country for its new corporate headquarters some years ago. Tax inversions. The list is absolutely endless, a million ways to steal trillions from the people's right to tax corporations and use the money for the common good.
Perhaps you missed the recent headlines about Apple, where they're gaming the system on an international scale to the tune of BILLIONS?
You're defending the 'rights' of thieves to keep stealing from your very own pocket, moron.
Seriously, I'm beginning to believe @UncleBuck's assessment of your thinking skills.
I dont need to. Padwan accidentally backed up my story with facts when he thought he was disagreeing with me... Those charts showed corporations paying between 10 & 30 % of the taxes in America.Its only just the beginning. We have the debt hangover from Bush era tax cuts to deal, shoot, we haven't even dealt with the Reagan tax cuts. Those fuckers intend for the next generation of worker bees and the one after that to pay for it.
Oh sure they do and the 1% that own most of the wealth in this country or around the world for that matter, also are paying plenty of taxes in the US. (snicker)
How about posting some real data to back up your story. Not a fucking video, just some hard data that can be examined and cross checked.
That's the beauty of competition, if producers raise prices too high, consumers won't buy their products. This incentivises low pricesthey pay taxes with your money so asking taxes to be raised on them is like asking for taxes to be raised upon yourself.
You're arguing corporations pay enough taxes, I'm arguing they don't, that's the disagreementI am not sure why you are going out of your way to be argumentative with me when we are in agreement that corporations do pay taxes.
And of course, the negative ETR, doesn't include the estimated trillions in offshoring.Its only just the beginning. We have the debt hangover from Bush era tax cuts to deal, shoot, we haven't even dealt with the Reagan tax cuts. Those fuckers intend for the next generation of worker bees and the one after that to pay for it.
Oh sure they do and the 1% that own most of the wealth in this country or around the world for that matter, also are paying plenty of taxes in the US. (snicker)
How about posting some real data to back up your story. Not a fucking video, just some hard data that can be examined and cross checked.
Anyone take a look at inheritance tax rate lately and how to beat it? Yup, that's right, beat it..pay no taxes..the American way!That's the beauty of competition, if producers raise prices too high, consumers won't buy their products. This incentivises low prices
You're arguing corporations pay enough taxes, I'm arguing they don't, that's the disagreement
They paid 30% of burden in the 1950s and pay 11% now, where do you think that remaining 19% has to come from? It comes from the middle class since capital gains taxes are so criminally low. So when you get upset that people are on welfare or we have to pay for healthcare or social security, direct it at corporations because they're the ones that have made it that way.
No, it's the lobbyist that gets those tax breaks by plying Washington with cash.It is the government giving the corporations the tax breaks yet you consistently do not look at that 1/2 of the equation and see a problem with it, only the corporation side. Both sides are laughing at you BTW.
Every time THEY pay LESS you are EXPECTED to pay MORE. You just pay more divied up amongst the rest of America..may not seem like a lot but it does add up amirite, @NLXSK1?
rich people figured out a way to shift the amount of taxes they pay onto you. Yet you cling to an obsolete political philosophy demanding they pay even less.. Simply genius
I dont need to. Padwan accidentally backed up my story with facts when he thought he was disagreeing with me... Those charts showed corporations paying between 10 & 30 % of the taxes in America.
That's the beauty of competition, if producers raise prices too high, consumers won't buy their products. This incentivises low prices
You're arguing corporations pay enough taxes, I'm arguing they don't, that's the disagreement
They paid 30% of burden in the 1950s and pay 11% now, where do you think that remaining 19% has to come from? It comes from the middle class since capital gains taxes are so criminally low. So when you get upset that people are on welfare or we have to pay for healthcare or social security, direct it at corporations because they're the ones that have made it that way.
Schuylarr says that corporations pay NO taxes.10-30% on taxable income, they hide their dough overseas and in shell companies..the tax code is garbage.
Why not pay 30% like they did in the '50s? This idea that taxes crush corporations is made the lie by that simple fact. Companies did just fine back then.I never said corporations paid enough in taxes. I put no say in it either way except to point out that it is you that pay for the taxes when you buy the product. Therefore, you are paying the taxes passed through the company by the government.
My point to Schuylarr is that corporations do pay taxes which she doesnt think is true.
And you verified my point by showing that corporations pay at least 10% of the total taxes in America.
You are just argumentative on inertia right now. You will never agree with me because you think I am the enemy.
Do you remember the original point of my comment? 10% is not 0% whether you would like it to be 30% or not.Why not pay 30% like they did in the '50s? This idea that taxes crush corporations is made the lie by that simple fact. Companies did just fine back then.
In order to balance the budget, taxes will have to go up in places where the money is -- the top 10% of incomes and on corporations. As Corso points out, there are shenanigans that Corporations play to hide income in order to avoid taxes. A good first step is to close those loopholes.
Do you remember the original point of my comment? 10% is not 0% whether you would like it to be 30% or not.
Also, corporations do not pay taxes, the government steals a cut of their growth off the top. Profit to a corporation is not the same thing as profit to an individual. But hey, lets not address those points either, lets just say how unfair 10% is and that everyone else should be paying more...
Complete insanity the fogdog way....
I think your point was companies pay taxes. I agree. Unfunded tax cuts that balloon national debt need to be rolled back. That means taxes will go up. Companies did just fine when they paid 30% of the national spend. Thanks for pointing that out.Do you remember the original point of my comment? 10% is not 0% whether you would like it to be 30% or not.
Also, corporations do not pay taxes, the government steals a cut of their growth off the top. Profit to a corporation is not the same thing as profit to an individual. But hey, lets not address those points either, lets just say how unfair 10% is and that everyone else should be paying more...
Complete insanity the fogdog way....
They have automatic increases built into every budget. There is no way without an act of congress for a budget to be lower than the year before.2017 fiscal budget,....largest ever....again. see ?