What's the worst strain and breeder you've dealt with?

Some sort of dirty connection between high times and greenhouse seeds...

Like how Kalashnikova got a 2 page centerfold in the Dec. 2012 "top 10 strains of 2012".
Everything I have read about this plant is crap. How could it possibly be one of the best strains...
this is the kind of bullshit marketing that keeps bad companies in buisness. Shame on high times.

fucking vancouver island seedbank burmese bought from kindseed! i spend over $70 fucking dollars on that shit and got NOTHING but aborts that wouldn't even pop and a few mutants that died after vomiting twisted 1st leafsets. i found out after the fact that kindseed is sketchy, so it might have been on them. they were the only source for that strain at the time. i always wanted it as a compact, lemony and trippy pure sativa

i've seen a bunch of rants against KC brains for similar 0% grows.

Worst strains : Super Silver Haze, Super Lemon Haze and Auto Mazar
Worst breeders (?) : GreenHouseSeeds and Dutch Passion.

I don't like Dutch Passion either. Greenhouse are not essentially a breeding company but a merely a marketing house. I've not had problems with their seeds but of course there are better breeders. GH Seeds are cheaper than clones though. Serious seeds and Soma (who im meeting next month at Spannabis) know their stuff. I love the Dutch Co's on the whole.

dankydonky said:

man..youcan turn it in some dry sift,mubblehash or shatter ftw

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Yeah, I have a bag of dry sift from it. I'll eventually turn the rest, but I don't have time for now. Maybe it would work better in edibles. It's in a freezer right now. The sift is lower quality too. It's just got a bad profile. It's not something I like and I doubt I ever would. It also smells/tastes like shit largely.

The one pheno that was decent smelled good. Pure bubblegum. The rest of them smelt fucked up and not appealing. You can't sell this stuff in any way shape or form in the market I am in. Maybe medibles like I said. I'm a horrible cook though.

you guys are scaring me. lol

sounds like even even big breeders, are as about as hit and miss as bagseed.

even worse, the first packs i ordered, while doing my reading and re-search were

GHS- Super Lemon Haze
Barney's - Vanilla Kush
Barney's - Utopia Haze
Reserva P. - O. G. Kush

I based my early order almost solely on Cup Wins. and now i think i may have wasted my money. Did i fuck up?

it gets real confusing when people say "Genetics! Genetics! Genetics!"
But even the "Top" so called breeders, are shit.

so where is the line between the shitty top breeders, and the no name cheap seeds, or even the guys in the middle like TGA have bad things said about them.
i'm starting to have a hard time finding that line.

so where is the good genetics. . . . . really?

zer0ed said:

you guys are scaring me. lolsounds like even even big breeders, are as about as hit and miss as bagseed.even worse, the first packs i ordered, while doing my reading and re-search were GHS- Super Lemon HazeBarney's - Vanilla KushBarney's - Utopia HazeReserva P. - O. G. Kush I based my early order almost solely on Cup Wins. and now i think i may have wasted my money. Did i fuck up?it gets real confusing when people say "Genetics! Genetics! Genetics!" But even the "Top" so called breeders, are shit.so where is the line between the shitty top breeders, and the no name cheap seeds, or even the guys in the middle like TGA have bad things said about them.i'm starting to have a hard time finding that line.so where is the good genetics. . . . . really?

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Utopia Haze was really good smoke. Clear and inspirational. I recommend female seeds c99; Positronics whatever flavor you like as excellent genetics; Ace Seeds; Cannabiogen; Paradise Seeds,World of Seeds;Serious Seeds; Dinafem; Sensi Seeds Hope it helps

zer0ed said:

you guys are scaring me. lol

sounds like even even big breeders, are as about as hit and miss as bagseed.

even worse, the first packs i ordered, while doing my reading and re-search were

GHS- Super Lemon Haze
Barney's - Vanilla Kush
Barney's - Utopia Haze
Reserva P. - O. G. Kush

I based my early order almost solely on Cup Wins. and now i think i may have wasted my money. Did i fuck up?

it gets real confusing when people say "Genetics! Genetics! Genetics!"
But even the "Top" so called breeders, are shit.

so where is the line between the shitty top breeders, and the no name cheap seeds, or even the guys in the middle like TGA have bad things said about them.
i'm starting to have a hard time finding that line.

so where is the good genetics. . . . . really?

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every breeder you listed there is not at all top or even considered top of anything other than the fake as shit pile

please dont confuse proclaimed professionalism with the real breeders who work and stabilize lines and let the genetics and frost do the talking

Reserva is decent and i do see there strains around and some are nice that OG sucks though i have heard, but i may be thinking of the OG 18

Bodhi, Top Dawg, Tom Hill, Sannies, Gage Green are all legit breeders, and don't need any marketing ploys to sell seeds.

Also Reserva privada can be good, Soma is good.

Even Dinafem can be good. My friend has an amazing critical jack. And moby dick is world famous.

i got my seeds from attitude gh white rhino,super bud,exodus cheese,g13 pineapple express,advanced seeds bio diesel mass(auto) and freebie mango by blimburn seeds,im gonna grow them using 6oow mh veg then switch to hps after about 6 weeks in 5gallon pots using coco,i was hoping to get 2oz aplant and an oz with the auto,after what ive read i worried i wont get an oz a plant and the smoke sounds like crap too,id prefer quality over quantity any day, with the cost of equipment elec etc i hope it to be worth it,and what if i veg for say 8 weeks grow them really big then flower them surely the yield would be a lot better,also i can top the plants,and i was planning to top each plant twice,but ive been reading that every plant wether topped or not will produce the same bud as its predetermined in the genetics,is this ture? thanks.

that last part about topping and untopping is definitely not true...

Nothing against kos but deep chump has hit the alltime worst im my book right now!

hellraizer30 said:

Nothing against kos but deep chump has hit the alltime worst im my book right now!

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you ever run any of their other gear hr? have you tried talking to the rev or greenman 420 and see what they say yet? i've wanted a few things from them but now not so sure..

racerboy71 said:

you ever run any of their other gear hr? have you tried talking to the rev or greenman 420 and see what they say yet? i've wanted a few things from them but now not so sure..

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Not yet! Been stewing on it!
Never run there gear, but i
have all there gear lol and thats
not the issue. I know they got fire
sh99! Deep chunk, deep phase are
dynamite but i didnt get close to lucky
on this go! So dont take this as all there
gear sucks cause i have seen deep chunk
that was stellar!

hellraizer30 said:

Not yet! Been stewing on it!
Never run there gear, but i
have all there gear lol and thats
not the issue. I know they got fire
sh99! Deep chunk, deep phase are
dynamite but i didnt get close to lucky
on this go! So dont take this as all there
gear sucks cause i have seen deep chunk
that was stellar!

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that sucks, i was interested in their metal haze and a few others as well..

racerboy71 said:

that sucks, i was interested in their metal haze and a few others as well..

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Like i said racer dont let just me sway yah from it!

zer0ed said:

you guys are scaring me. lol

sounds like even even big breeders, are as about as hit and miss as bagseed.

even worse, the first packs i ordered, while doing my reading and re-search were

GHS- Super Lemon Haze
Barney's - Vanilla Kush
Barney's - Utopia Haze
Reserva P. - O. G. Kush

I based my early order almost solely on Cup Wins. and now i think i may have wasted my money. Did i fuck up?

it gets real confusing when people say "Genetics! Genetics! Genetics!"
But even the "Top" so called breeders, are shit.

so where is the line between the shitty top breeders, and the no name cheap seeds, or even the guys in the middle like TGA have bad things said about them.
i'm starting to have a hard time finding that line.

so where is the good genetics. . . . . really?

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Sannie has plenty of great genetics.

PeakseedsBC.com has fire for dirt cheap. Highly recommend their Sweet Skunk, Kushberry and NL and those are the only ones I've popped so far. Sweet Skunk being my favorite. Potent sativa. Bit of a creeper. 2 girls, one very very good the other outstanding. 1 girl for the Kushberry and a buddy of mine who's run more Kush clones than you can imagine would love a cut.

The NL were the least potent but it had a really nice full body enjoyable and happy buzz. Relaxing. And they were strong enough to get me stoned despite being the weakest. My tolerance is very very high. Had 4 of them and they were all pretty similar and all were similarly good.

Sannie - tonnes of great things have been written. His Sugar Punch (out of stock) is some of the most potent weed I have ever had. Killing Fields some of the best daytime I've ever had. Herijuana was nice pain relief. Extrema a nice all around smoke with dank smelling buds. However it is hermie prone, although I did not have any issues with them. Some strains are better for more advanced gardeners as they have bad tendencies. It's the price you pay for the best.

Peakseeds Blueberry is supposed to be incredible and I believe it after smoking his Kushberry which was blueberry dominant.

I got a couple nice phenotypes of MNS Black Widow as well. Currently running again. MNS is more expensive though and IMO it's not quite up to the same level as the Sugar Punch/Sweet Skunk and based on my luck you have to do a bit more hunting although my BW10 was super frosted and potent - it just didn't yield well (because of it's location relative light) so I don't have enough to say for sure, I'll know more after the second run.

Sannies backs up his beans. I had an issue with one order, notified him and received free replacement even though it was probaly my fault that two of the five seeds failed. I used to deal only with the tude but they didn't stand behind the product they sold. I'm sticking with Sannie.

For me I would say the worst breeder I have come across was several years back KC Brains. I believe there was a time they were considered reputable. But at the time when I grew their Cristal Limit that is probably when they were sliding in quality exponentially. The regular beans looked immature predominately. The ones that were mature I had to place nicks on them or I know they would not of germinated. The ones that germinated which were only 3 in a period of 4 days. Throughout the grow the plants were finicky which threw me off because previous cycle I ran Nirvana's Chrystal. They share the same genetics of white widow and northern lights only difference is the Cristal Limit had in it their secret KC 606 in it. The name they chose for that strain was right though but could of changed the arrangement of it to limited crystal because there was a lack of it. The taste was bland and the yield was abysmal. Maybe they are better now. I wont ever know cause I will skip them if given a choice.

Barney's farms "dr. Grinspoon" looks pretty awful to me