What's the worst strain and breeder you've dealt with?

aknight3

Moderator
i have heard alot of badthings about greenhouse seeds, but In my experience theseeds were always OK, not great, but not bad either, barneys farm sucks i think, tried2 sstrains from barneys, both sucked, couldhave just been me though, IMO i try to NEVER discredit a breeder without a VERY GOOD reason and unless i try at least 3 of the breeders strains, otherwise your just judging on a little bit of the breeders work, everyone has some duds, thats how u find the great strains. just my 2cents
 

tree king

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It is amazing to me that you can have 200 people have amazing grows with a strain and then a guy that doesnt even have a single succesful grow under their belt will completely shit on a company without ever considering that they just dont know how to grow. Lets take Killing Fields for an example. I have seen at least 50 awesome grows of Killing fields including 3 of my own and because YOU cant even get through the germination process or because YOU fuck with your plants til they hermi all of the sudden Killing Fields is bad genetics. Can we get someone shitting on Chem Dog please cuz I havent quite laughed hard enough to piss my pants yet but that will certainly do it.
it took me a while to figure it out but one thing you have to realize is most people on this website have no idea what there talkin about so you have to be very careful who you listen to. the quicker you realize that the better off you'l be.
 

SSHZ

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Because seeds are a living entity, like humans, some turn out well and some don't. When considering a seed purchase, you have to look at generalities first. Then start researching for a specific strain. GENERALLY, seed companies like Sannies, Breeders Choice, Reserva Privada, Dinafem, Paradise and numerous others are fine and if you are a decent grower you'll get good results. Company's like Green House, Dutch Passion, Reeferman, Barney's and numerous others don't seem to care what they bring to the market (hermies, poor sprouting, bad results, etc.) and you'll see MANY more complaints. So, first choose a solid seed company and THEN read everything you can find before deciding on a strain......... but almost every company has 1 or 2 standouts that they build their reputation on.
 

Clankie

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It is amazing to me that you can have 200 people have amazing grows with a strain and then a guy that doesnt even have a single succesful grow under their belt will completely shit on a company without ever considering that they just dont know how to grow. Lets take Killing Fields for an example. I have seen at least 50 awesome grows of Killing fields including 3 of my own and because YOU cant even get through the germination process or because YOU fuck with your plants til they hermi all of the sudden Killing Fields is bad genetics. Can we get someone shitting on Chem Dog please cuz I havent quite laughed hard enough to piss my pants yet but that will certainly do it.
all this dude does is troll around bashing killing fields, and pretending to be the world's most awesome grower, that just can't seem to afford a camera. even if he's not full of shit, his whole complaint is "i wanted something at least half indica, but i bought a strain specifically bred fo a soaring sativa high because i'm a mental deficient.'
or he bought one bag and had too high humidity levels and harvested a bunch of garbage. who gives a shit. everyone who has grown KF and knows what they are doing knows what the deal is. hands down the most popular sativa girl in my stable right now.
 

Jogro

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It is amazing to me that you can have 200 people have amazing grows with a strain and then a guy that doesnt even have a single succesful grow under their belt will completely shit on a company without ever considering that they just dont know how to grow.
Welcome to the internet!

Can we get someone shitting on Chem Dog please cuz I havent quite laughed hard enough to piss my pants yet but that will certainly do it.
OK. . .its hermie prone. :lol:
 

budbro18

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I do this with every seed i plan to buy

first i think of a type of seed (white,purp,fruit,diesel)

Then ill go to a seed site and find 20-30 seeds that sound good.

Then group by breeder and check the breeders stats on the plant. (ghs has good grow videos of all their plants)

Then i usually eliminate a few that have too many random strain crosses. i like a solid motherxfather cross. (except for grape god but she was an unplanned gem) hahaha

So after all that i search them internets high and low until i find several grow journals about them. (grape god was so hard to find, so i had to make an in-depth journal)

Then based on how well they grow and the experience of the grower i cut it down to 2-4 strains.

Then ill talk it over with some friends and ask them what they like to smoke and what sounds appealing this time around.

And by then im usually set on what i want.

Also never be afraid to plant freebies because i have gotten some bangin bud outta some free seeds.
 

SSHZ

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What do you guys know about his Iranian Auto? I've been looking at that strain for a few years now. Every year, I put out a few autos and I am usually disappointed. I might give it a try this year. $150 is a lot to drop at one time, even for 10 fem seeds.
There's a lot more bad about this strain than good, that's for sure. I just read a thread last night by a respected grower on another site and he tore into Dr. Greenthumb regarding this strain. I can't remember the specifics but he said it was terrible and a waste of time.......if I find it, I'll post the link.
 

650baquet

Active Member
Barney's Vanilla Kush: Waste of time... grew very nice in veg. had a strong lavender smell, unusual. tiny tiny buds, hardly even smoke-able.

the funny thing is these were all grown out next to perfectly fine plants. same conditions and all.

Ive also smoked a ton of barney's strains that i didnt grow myself, and they are almost never good. violator, vanilla, red diesel, tangerine d, liberty haze, etc...

only had one keeper from barney's ever: Crimea Blue.

Hard to say if any of the strains i tried were really GHS ones... kings kush sucks. and grape ape is awesome by itself, so i know its not that part that sucked.
I agree...i have not had much experience with purchasing online and having seeds not germ...only one and it was Pineapple Chunk and my first time with germing in a peat pellet, and my last time. Was really looking forward to the PC because i had some in Kona, HI that was awesome to say the least. Back to the Farm...i currently still have VanillyKush...only because i like a challenge, but i'm nearly done with the crap it pulls in flower in the same conditions as my Trainwreck(GreenHouse), Lost Coast OG(Emerald Tri.), and Chocolope(DNA Gen.) which are thriving. I used to have a Tangerine D but it would do the same...plus holy crap took a long time to flower as well as potency wasnt as high as expected; along with weak aroma, flavor, and very very fluffy. All of that combined with stretching pretty bad for my short room made me toss this strain after round 3. VK is on round 6 with potency better and nuggets more dense. Though, nowhere near the results of the LCOG and TW. The Chocolope is about to start flower in round 2, a very dark green plant that for me grows super slow in veg and can easy double size going into flower...idk but one odd thing that isn't happening with the clones that happened with the initial seed is the main top grew so slowly the lowing branches engulfed it (eventually i said screw it and topped it...i planned to anyways). The tops new growth looked kinda plump and fat somewhat twisted/mutated if that makes sense. Had massive fan leaves too.
 

650baquet

Active Member
Never saw 1 positive grow on this strain.........LOL

Another cup winning bust!
RIGHT!!!! It was my very first Cup winner grow that left me feeling like a shitty gardener haha...then it was followed by Lost Coast OG and Trainwreck which blew it out of the water. Waist of time and money...
 

sonar

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There's a lot more bad about this strain than good, that's for sure. I just read a thread last night by a respected grower on another site and he tore into Dr. Greenthumb regarding this strain. I can't remember the specifics but he said it was terrible and a waste of time.......if I find it, I'll post the link.
Please do. I've only read one start to finish grow on RIU regarding this strain by sodalite and he had nothing but great things to say about it. All the photos were very impressive.
 

althor

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thseeds - Heavy duty fruity order 2x 10 pack 0% germination rate. it's been 6 years I'm still angry
My two HDF freebies popped no problems at all, gave them to my best friend. One was male, one was female, grew out big and thick with decent (skunk) potency.
 

OGMan

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It is amazing to me that you can have 200 people have amazing grows with a strain and then a guy that doesnt even have a single succesful grow under their belt will completely shit on a company without ever considering that they just dont know how to grow. Lets take Killing Fields for an example. I have seen at least 50 awesome grows of Killing fields including 3 of my own and because YOU cant even get through the germination process or because YOU fuck with your plants til they hermi all of the sudden Killing Fields is bad genetics. Can we get someone shitting on Chem Dog please cuz I havent quite laughed hard enough to piss my pants yet but that will certainly do it.
You're right. Its so typical. That guy above who claims Iranian G13 is crap obviously hasn't grown it because its a super potent outdoor plant and has been around for years now. I had to pre-order mine this year just to be sure I got some. It's so popular the seed company can't keep it in stock
 

brando980

Member
HSO ( humbolt seed organization) Chemdawg. ordered 1 no luck , sent a replacement no luck either. the other 6 strains I ordered from different breeders were successful
 
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