What's the best 1000w hps bulb money can buy

Having read this thread all the way through, I thought I saw people saying that DE bulbs could be fired with standard thousand digital watt ballasts. I was under the impression output voltage was different, making DE bulbs incompatible with SE ballasts. Is this not the case?
 
ttystikk said:
Having read this thread all the way through, I thought I saw people saying that DE bulbs could be fired with standard thousand digital watt ballasts. I was under the impression output voltage was different, making DE bulbs incompatible with SE ballasts. Is this not the case?
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The 600 watt DE's fire at 200v which is higher than standard HPS bulbs but the 1kW DE bulbs, at least the Ushio ones seem to operate at 230v which is similar to regular HPSes.

From the looks of it all that's required is a high frequency ballast.
 
Does anyone know anyone who has actually tried running DE lamps vertically?

I hear it doesn't work but no one I've spoken with can say they personally know anyone who actually tried it.
 
BShillington said:
Typically the increased yields from higher quality lamps will more than make up for the cheap bulbs - that and less light deterioration means less bulb changing in the first place.
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so ill yield more with a 100$ bulb then a 50$? if so then please explain cause i was told by local grow shop 100 bulbs still need to be changed every run as they lose so much lumens right away... so if your gonna buy new bulbs every 2-3 months why spend that kinda money?? but really im unsure as im still new so if that bulb can almost double my yield then id spend the extra money
 
jimmy slim big said:
so ill yield more with a 100$ bulb then a 50$? if so then please explain cause i was told by local grow shop 100 bulbs still need to be changed every run as they lose so much lumens right away... so if your gonna buy new bulbs every 2-3 months why spend that kinda money?? but really im unsure as im still new so if that bulb can almost double my yield then id spend the extra money
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DE tech 1. gives more lumens per watt, 2. Improves spectrum and 3. Lasts drastically longer

I'm investigating how to make them work vertically...
 
Anyone use Agromax or have any statistics on it? I'm kind of regretting not spending 10 more bucks for an EYE. The used EYE I got with ballast and cheapo hood(60$ for all, mwahahaha) works great. I tried google but didn't come up with a whole lot. I'll check the CRI(is that it) though.
edit: and it is 26..
 
jimmy slim big said:
so ill yield more with a 100$ bulb then a 50$? if so then please explain cause i was told by local grow shop 100 bulbs still need to be changed every run as they lose so much lumens right away... so if your gonna buy new bulbs every 2-3 months why spend that kinda money?? but really im unsure as im still new so if that bulb can almost double my yield then id spend the extra money
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Because employees at a grow shop usually aren't capable of a cost-benefit analysis.

- Jiji
 
ttystikk said:
Why?
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It's not marketing but you can believe what you like. I just didn't want to rant on ballasts because this is a bulb thread, and I didn't want to hijack it.

1. I really like the sunrise function: it is better on your bulbs and your electrical bill with no loss to your plants growth.

2. They are fully programable with a single remote which has a number of benefits. It takes the timer out of the equation, and I don't know anyone who hasn't had at least a minor timer bump encounter, they suck. So all my ballast are synced. I know other ballast have remotes, but I found them harder to figure out.

3. Even though it has a very nice timer, you can still program it without one, I know it seems like I'm contradicting my last point, but sometimes I can't find the remote. The other programable ballast I've tried are usless without the remote.

4. Other programable ballasts I've used don't have an LED read out displaying the exact wattage, remaining time, etc., so it's easy to see at a glance if everything is on the level.

5. They look cool. Hey, it doesn't hurt...
 
NW_Grower said:
It's not marketing but you can believe what you like. I just didn't want to rant on ballasts because this is a bulb thread, and I didn't want to hijack it.

1. I really like the sunrise function: it is better on your bulbs and your electrical bill with no loss to your plants growth.

2. They are fully programable with a single remote which has a number of benefits. It takes the timer out of the equation, and I don't know anyone who hasn't had at least a minor timer bump encounter, they suck. So all my ballast are synced. I know other ballast have remotes, but I found them harder to figure out.

3. Even though it has a very nice timer, you can still program it without one, I know it seems like I'm contradicting my last point, but sometimes I can't find the remote. The other programable ballast I've tried are usless without the remote.

4. Other programable ballasts I've used don't have an LED read out displaying the exact wattage, remaining time, etc., so it's easy to see at a glance if everything is on the level.

5. They look cool. Hey, it doesn't hurt...
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Just for everyone’s info, for the new Gavita E series, all these features and more are covered by a optional separate controller, the EL-1.

- Jiji
 
i still believe an expensive bulb that lasts a year is no better than 2-3 cheaper bulbs..ive used both and yields were only a few grams in difference..but ive never used the DE bulbs so cant comment on them.. i recently switched my flower room from 2 600 watt hps bulbs to 2 600 watt hps pluss 1 125 watt 6500k cfl wing reflector on side. the added blue spectrum has actually reduced stretch and improved yields by almost 2 oz's..pretty good for adding only 125 watts...
 
Cowboy Kahlil said:
Pretty impressive savings.


Pretty impressive savings. You sure Gavita isn't made in China, too? Are a lot of other equipment supplies cheaper with Alibaba, too? (Every buck saved is a big deal for me right now)
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Gavita is in fact made in China from what I understand. They have recently changed factories from Zhuhai to another factory owned by Fulham Inc.
 
hortilux bulbs supply a higher intensity grow spectrum from what I understand ...also from research on practice with them, they seem to be pretty good...amazon has the best price for bulk buying guarantee
 
I don't know. CFL? So what's the solution to this riddle? I just want the right answers just in case it's on an exam or something.
 
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