Whats in the healthcare bill?

MuyLocoNC said:

No insult intended at all. Just pointing out the fact that you obviously didn't even look at the data, that you denied was in existence. You made the comments and I responded with a University study (because we all know how important your academia is to you).

I could provide links to literally hundreds of similar studies and reports that all show that homicides and auto/transit fatalities are solely responsible for the US not being number one in life expectancy. But, since you won't look at anything that might disturb your concept of reality, it would simply be a waste of my time.

And as far as inadequacies, don't bother. There is NO aspect of your life that could make mine pale by comparison. In fact, I can say with no fear of confutation from any of my non-cyber friends that frequent this website, life doesn't get much better than this. Anytime you would like to compare net worth, family, friends, retirement at age 37, outright home ownership, penis length, attractiveness of mate, success of children, health, military service, height, not being a jerkoff or anything else, I'm right here. Notice I didn't mention formal education, I know you've got me bought and sold in that area. But then I'm sure you're smart enough to figure out how much credence I would give to the value of an education from such liberal cesspools.

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And your immaturity level can easily be understood by your resort to a contest of material wealth and penis length. I never engage in these silly sorts of games. I only wanted to inform you that your insults have NO weight.

It appears they really don't have an explanation as to why our infant mortality rate is so high... cited directly in the link. They seem to think that it isn't from lack of ability to care for the infant once it is born, but more from the fact that we have so many premature babies. The article also seemed to suggest that the mortality rate could be linked to smoking and lack of breast feeding (more of a cultural gap than a health care issue, I think the word is out that you shouldn't smoke while your pregnant).

The article did make some interesting points about health care "PRE-CONCEPTION" affecting premature birth rates, but then it also said "you can do everything right and still have a premature birth". It does make a convincing case that we should focus more on prenatal care and I could certainly get behind that.

I'm not an anti-abortion guy at all (unless you're talking partial birth, late term stuff), but if you factored in all the abortions towards our infant mortality rate, I gotta think we would look pretty awful. Just a thought.

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Yeah if you do more looking into the situation you will find that most the clusters of infant mortality will be in poorer communities (duh right). But the reason is that most of them don't have the insurance to have good enough health care. So that can be a source of directly leading to the pre-natal deficiencies.

It is just a theory, but the evidence points to it pretty strong. This is another area where the Obama insurance plan would help to improve the issues we face.

If they just did studies on the people with insurance we would be among the leaders in the worlds healthcare. The problem is that they don't just take those people into consideration, they look at everyone in the nation.

And that is when we drastically fall. The people without the ability to pay for insurance (and healthcare) they tend to get much more unhealthy eventually.

And this is the important part. If we can divert the same money that we eventually spend on taking care of the last months of their life and emergencies of that they get into (ie car accidents) to an insurance program we won't be spending more money. Especially if we can be sure that they are getting regular checkups through a reg. doctor and not relying on expensive hospital emergency room visits (and ensuing bankruptcies from them).

That is why we are taking the right steps.

And those culture gaps, I think are better said as a wealth gap.