What's a good soil-better then FFOF!

cannabis culture

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I been useing FFOF for a few crops now and my last 2 I been having certain lockout issues; and from what I been reading apparently FFOF is prone to problems. So I'm trying to switch to another kind. What do you guys recommend? I'm thinking about sunshine advanced mix #4 or another #, mixed with perlite.
 

greasemonkeymann

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I been useing FFOF for a few crops now and my last 2 I been having certain lockout issues; and from what I been reading apparently FFOF is prone to problems. So I'm trying to switch to another kind. What do you guys recommend? I'm thinking about sunshine advanced mix #4 or another #, mixed with perlite.
I had great results from using Vermifire, back when I bought soil, that is.. Don't need to feed much though, if you get that soil go easy on the nutes
 

vostok

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Mix in more perlite(30%) is good
most 'hot' soils suffer chronic drainage issues
avoid moss in volumes like the plaque
as it will hold water and nutes
go the opposite and perlite for great drainage

I get mine form the hippies down at the river,
fantastic and cheap,
but it is a science
 

a mongo frog

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I been useing FFOF for a few crops now and my last 2 I been having certain lockout issues; and from what I been reading apparently FFOF is prone to problems. So I'm trying to switch to another kind. What do you guys recommend? I'm thinking about sunshine advanced mix #4 or another #, mixed with perlite.
not sure that Advanced sunshine #4 is a soil. may be considered a soilless with added mycro. how are you feeding the ocean forrest?
 

HayStax

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I personally would not recommend ffof when running a full liquid nutrient schedule. Promix, sunshine #4, perlite, peat moss, whatever combo you like. Your not getting from you medium with these, so it's a different approach than true organic, but it seems like psuedo-hydro is what your trying to do. I've not heard of anyone successfully growing treating FFOF, like a soilless medium, but it seems like 50% of folk still try it. Best of luck. I hate to not give you complete info, so your previous grows I would not chalk up to "lock out" or a bum batch of Fox Farm, most likely it was a combo of over saturated medium which goes hand in hand with salt build up, PH inbalance, and therefore nutrient lock out. There is also much more chemistry involved in a complete answer, but basically, reactions take place between the organic compounds in your soil and your liquid fertilizer that can render certain minerals unavailable.
 
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DemonTrich

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been using FFOF for over 3 years with not a single issue what so ever. ill never change. I also use liquid nutes at a feed/feed/water with a feeding ppm of 1430. 30% chunky perlite, 1 cup powdered dolomite lime per bag of OF.

please don't blame the soil, the only bad thing with FFOF is when newbs use it for seeds and wonder why their seeds were killed.
 

HayStax

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been using FFOF for over 3 years with not a single issue what so ever. ill never change. I also use liquid nutes at a feed/feed/water with a feeding ppm of 1430. 30% chunky perlite, 1 cup powdered dolomite lime per bag of OF.

please don't blame the soil, the only bad thing with FFOF is when newbs use it for seeds and wonder why their seeds were killed.
Thanks for the report man! You feed 1400 ppm on top of fox farm?!? I can't bring myself to say that's the best way, but I'm glad you've proven that these guys can be successful doing it and that there is a lot more factors at play. I had lime in mind in particular when I mentioned chemical reactions, as gypsum lime is what I had in mind this forms sodium sulfate out of your soil salts, preventing damage. This is possibly why you get away with 1400 ppm., because you are locking up a bunch with the lime.
 

jarvild

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I use a 50/50 mix of OF and pro-mix. Rooted clones go into 3/4 gallon pots for 1 week then into 3 gallon pots for 2 weeks then into the flower room. Usually don't have to start feeding nutes till week 2 of flower.
 

HayStax

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I use a 50/50 mix of OF and pro-mix. Rooted clones go into 3/4 gallon pots for 1 week then into 3 gallon pots for 2 weeks then into the flower room. Usually don't have to start feeding nutes till week 2 of flower.
Nice insight!
 
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