Whats a good floraseries nute chart

southbayLA154

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So at the moment i have
floraseries- micro grow and bloom
Floralicouis plus
Calmag
Silica
Liquid koolbloom

Recommend a good feed schedule using these ?

Or how can i use cocoforcannabis feed chart with only using what i have on hand? Cause in the feedchart it includes ralidstart,sm90,diamond nectar etc.
So obviously my ppm wont be at what it says on the chart since i dont have all of them ..

I dont mind going out n picking up the rest of the ones it calls for in tht chart but if i can just use those thtd be great
 

WintersBones

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I use the cocoforcannabis schedule as a rough guideline and then I use a few of those and a few other GH supplements (picked up when found on sale) at around 75-100% recommended strength according to the GH flora series pro chart. Then just check your ppm's and dilute down to your target range if you need to make sure you're not over feeding, I like it usually around 500-700ppm(1-1.2EC), then check/adjust pH last.
 

southbayLA154

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Alright so just mix up the ones i got kn hand rn of what it asks for on the pro feed chart .. and check ph and ppms ..
Dilute with calmag if needed?.

Yeah Id like to shoot for 500-700 ppm seems like they need more thn 400 ppm for me at the moment..
 

southbayLA154

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The Captain's formula is good. I'd maybe up it 25-50%, but it's a good start and won't fry your plants.
Yea ive come across his video on youtube alright got it i was thinking if i should folllow his ratios with what i have at the moment or .. would i have to up it since im not working with everything hes using? Like u said maybe up it by 25-50%
 

andymex

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So at the moment i have
floraseries- micro grow and bloom
Floralicouis plus
Calmag
Silica
Liquid koolbloom

Recommend a good feed schedule using these ?

Or how can i use cocoforcannabis feed chart with only using what i have on hand? Cause in the feedchart it includes ralidstart,sm90,diamond nectar etc.
So obviously my ppm wont be at what it says on the chart since i dont have all of them ..

I dont mind going out n picking up the rest of the ones it calls for in tht chart but if i can just use those thtd be great
Never follow feedcharts, grow by plant response. You could use a ppm calculator and try to get close to this levels Screen Shot 2021-01-28 at 0.16.07.png
If you see they are dark green feed less if you see them light green, with lower leaves yellowing then feed more. It is very simple !!!
 

andymex

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So at the moment i have
floraseries- micro grow and bloom
Floralicouis plus
Calmag
Silica
Liquid koolbloom

Recommend a good feed schedule using these ?

Or how can i use cocoforcannabis feed chart with only using what i have on hand? Cause in the feedchart it includes ralidstart,sm90,diamond nectar etc.
So obviously my ppm wont be at what it says on the chart since i dont have all of them ..

I dont mind going out n picking up the rest of the ones it calls for in tht chart but if i can just use those thtd be great
If you are growing in coco I would recommend to use maxigro or mega crop as it gets really close to the ideal npk ratios for flowering in coco without the need to mix different bottles and calculate the resulting ppm of each nutrient.
 

andymex

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I did the calculation for you. Compare this to the ideal npk table in coco I posted and you will see it gets close. You will only need to add little extra of calmag and a little silica. Floralicious plus is great and you can also use it !!
Screen Shot 2021-01-28 at 0.31.54.png
 

Jonnybgood35

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I started my plants with 1/2 of this and I’ve bumped it to 3/4. I’m spreading the weeks out though not sure how to explain that. I only have the flora trio, floralicious plus, liquid koolbloom, terpinator, and roots organic cal mag. Food is around 800 ppm. In sunshine 4 advanced. Hope that helps.

Ps. This is banana kush from ilgm
 

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bluegill

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I am using the Floragro series with cal-mag and sensizim. I follow what's on the bottle, diluted for just under 1 gal under what's in the reservoir.
 

Henchman2one

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What do you want it for ?
Maybe I'm not understanding correctly.

Just curious what your elemental mole ratios are and what compounds you're calculating from, ie if you're equating 1mole of P2O5 into 1mole of available P, ect. Looks like you had posted pics with all the basic nutes the plant would typically want, ect, so I'm just curious what the ratios were/are so that I can get an idea and replicate myself using other techniques (mixing dry salts).

Do all ions exhibit the same impact on EC? 10mol K + 100L will read same as 10mol Ca + 100L?

I'd rather build my solution by weighing out the salts as opposed to relying on a PPM meter to tell me when to stop adding ect. Then once the solution is constructed, sure, then use an EC meter to tell me differential concentration (ie if plants are consuming and how quickly).

I'm just after the recipe or ratios you're suggesting or talking about in an elemental form and also what conversion factors you're using in the numbers provided, ie if a % element, or ppm element, or weight element, ect, is actually representing an equivalent compound.

Example
If % P was actually represented as % P2O5, then elemental P would actually be twice as abundant as the equivalent P2O5 conversion would try to tell us.
There's 2P in P2O5, and only 1P in P, so if we were to compare the amount of P in 1 mole P2O5 and the amount of P in 1 mole of P, then the 1 mole of P only has 1 mole P (duh), though the 1 mole of P2O5 has 2 moles of P for every 1 mole P2O5.
If you told someone that your solution had % weight of P equal to 25%, and if they tried to replicate without knowing that the 25% weight of P was actually equal to 25% weight P2O5, then the person will not accurately replicate your solutio, they'd end up only putting in half the actual P compared to what was intended.

Just tying to understand from an elemental standpoint what your pics are saying. Just trying to interpret them correctly. Thanks.
 
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andymex

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Haha, cause that's what this thread is about? Maybe I'm not understanding correctly.

Just curious what your elemental mole ratios are and what compounds you're calculating from, ie if you're equating 1mole of P2O5 into 1mole of available P, ect. Looks like you had posted pics with all the basic nutes the plant would typically want, ect, so I'm just curious what the ratios were/are so that I can get an idea and replicate myself. Who knows what's in the bottles these companies sell. I'd rather know exactly what my inputs were ect than using a companies A,B,C line and blending blindly.

Ppm just tells you conductivity, it doesn't really tell you the actual % composition. PPM meters can be less than accurate and are dependent on water temp ect. I'd rather build my solution by weighing out the salts as opposed to relying on a PPM meter to tell me when to stop adding ect. Then once the solution is constructed, sure use a ppm to tell me differential concentration (ie if plants are consuming and how quickly).

I'm just after the recipe or ratios you're suggesting or talking about and also what conversion factors you're using in the numbers provided, ie if a % element, or ppm element, or weight element, ect, is actually representing an equivalent compound.

If % P was actually % P2O5, then P would actually be twice as abundant as the equivalent P2O5 would try to tell us.
There's 2P in P2O5, and only 1P in P, so if we were to compare the amount of P in 1 molecule P2O5 and the amount of P in 1 atom of P, then the atom of P only has 1 P (duh) and the molecule of P2O5 has 2 P atoms.
If you told someone that your solution had % weight of P equal to 25%, and if they tried to replicate without knowing that the 25% weight of P was actually equal to 25% weight P2O5, then the person will not accurately replicate the ratio you told them, they'd end up only putting in half the actual P compared to what was intended.

Lots of weird and gimmicky ways that companies list nute concentrations by, so just tying to understand from an elemental standpoint what your pics are saying. Just trying to interpret them correctly. Seemed you had some knowledge and Im just trying to pick your brain and curious as to all the nutes you thought were important and what your ratios were, or what other peoples ratios were that you've stumbled across, or even just anything you've found to be significant ect. :bigjoint:
I did that calculation to get close to the npk that the coco table that Yosemite Sam suggests. I usually use maxigro or folliagepro but he has the general hydroponics 3 part so I thought Iy would be good to try to get close to the npk of the table with those nutrients. To get to those ppm levels you need to add:
1.2 tsp per gallon of FloraGro
1.7 tsp per gallon of FloraBloom
1.2 tsp per gallon of FloraMicro

What fertilizers do you use?

Do you want go learn how how to calculate the ppm of each element exactly ?
 

andymex

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Haha, cause that's what this thread is about? Maybe I'm not understanding correctly.

Just curious what your elemental mole ratios are and what compounds you're calculating from, ie if you're equating 1mole of P2O5 into 1mole of available P, ect. Looks like you had posted pics with all the basic nutes the plant would typically want, ect, so I'm just curious what the ratios were/are so that I can get an idea and replicate myself. Who knows what's in the bottles these companies sell. I'd rather know exactly what my inputs were ect than using a companies A,B,C line and blending blindly.

Ppm just tells you conductivity, it doesn't really tell you the actual % composition. PPM meters can be less than accurate and are dependent on water temp ect. I'd rather build my solution by weighing out the salts as opposed to relying on a PPM meter to tell me when to stop adding ect. Then once the solution is constructed, sure use a ppm to tell me differential concentration (ie if plants are consuming and how quickly).

I'm just after the recipe or ratios you're suggesting or talking about and also what conversion factors you're using in the numbers provided, ie if a % element, or ppm element, or weight element, ect, is actually representing an equivalent compound.

If % P was actually % P2O5, then P would actually be twice as abundant as the equivalent P2O5 would try to tell us.
There's 2P in P2O5, and only 1P in P, so if we were to compare the amount of P in 1 molecule P2O5 and the amount of P in 1 atom of P, then the atom of P only has 1 P (duh) and the molecule of P2O5 has 2 P atoms.
If you told someone that your solution had % weight of P equal to 25%, and if they tried to replicate without knowing that the 25% weight of P was actually equal to 25% weight P2O5, then the person will not accurately replicate the ratio you told them, they'd end up only putting in half the actual P compared to what was intended.

Lots of weird and gimmicky ways that companies list nute concentrations by, so just tying to understand from an elemental standpoint what your pics are saying. Just trying to interpret them correctly. Seemed you had some knowledge and Im just trying to pick your brain and curious as to all the nutes you thought were important and what your ratios were, or what other peoples ratios were that you've stumbled across, or even just anything you've found to be significant ect. :bigjoint:
Do you want the links I have of plant nutrition ?
 
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