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apoulin

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I bought a 40x loupe and can see an amber trich spread here and there. I have not noticed any new white hairs, most are turning red. I was having a hard time determining between clear and milky trichs, so I figured that once I saw a few ambers that the rest should be mostly milky now.
 

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I bought a 40x loupe and can see an amber trich spread here and there. I have not noticed any new white hairs, most are turning red. I was having a hard time determining between clear and milky trichs, so I figured that once I saw a few ambers that the rest should be mostly milky now.
if you can't determine if they are clear or milky they are still clear.. you'll know milky.. but more over you wanna see 20% amber heads anywhere you stick the scope... i hope you flushed those babies really good you have salt build up signs everywhere on your fans..
 
if you can't determine if they are clear or milky they are still clear.. you'll know milky.. but more over you wanna see 20% amber heads anywhere you stick the scope... i hope you flushed those babies really good you have salt build up signs everywhere on your fans..
the milky ones will look like the trichromes filled up with semen they won't be clear and glassy..
 
hahaha first explanation that made sense!

So in that case, I see glassy trichs not enough semen trichs too and too few amber:confused:
so do you see them ambers everywhere you stick the scope? or are you looking to find them?

anywhere you place the scope on your colas you should see the 20% amber without having to search ad move the scope... if you don't they still have a bit..
 
if you can't determine if they are clear or milky they are still clear.. you'll know milky.. but more over you wanna see 20% amber heads anywhere you stick the scope... i hope you flushed those babies really good you have salt build up signs everywhere on your fans..

I noticed that too, I did start flushing a few days ago. I drained most of the res, filled it back up and added a low strength solution.
Can you explain your salt build up signs please, I am new to hydro and have learned a lot. I have diagnosed a few issues and corrected them early in the life cycle.


the milky ones will look like the trichromes filled up with semen they won't be clear and glassy..

That is probably the best explanation I have heard lol
 
so do you see them ambers everywhere you stick the scope? or are you looking to find them?

anywhere you place the scope on your colas you should see the 20% amber without having to search ad move the scope... if you don't they still have a bit..
I am looking to find them, I can find them on all of the top colas. Not enough for a % though, it is like where's waldo lol
 
I ended up getting bigger plants than I anticipated, I have 6 in a 12 gal tote filled with ~10 gal, about 2-2.5ft tall. The root mass is huge and takes up the majority of the tub, since about 4 weeks of flower it has been difficult to manage.
 
I noticed that too, I did start flushing a few days ago. I drained most of the res, filled it back up and added a low strength solution.
Can you explain your salt build up signs please, I am new to hydro and have learned a lot. I have diagnosed a few issues and corrected them early in the life cycle.




That is probably the best explanation I have heard lol
well 99.9% of newer growers never run fresh water cycles... so lets say Monday you feed your fresh nutrient feed.. tuesday you come back and ph balance... top off your resivors... rebalance ppms.. wednesday same thing .. thurday same thing... Friday you SHOULD be draining your resivoir... putting fresh clean PH BALANCED water in and run that water from friday to sunday (checking and keeping a stable ph the whole time on the clean water.. top off obviously too..) .. thats going to flush salts and give your plants a break from chemical feeding.. they need that.. then monday drain the water.. restart fresh solution and go again... thats how a real hydro setup is supposed to be ran... no one does that.. you need to at the very least run fresh water for a weekend once a month AT MINIMUM if you don't you get the salt build up your getting.. it happens when your consistently running chemicals through your system and never flushing it out.. the salts and metals build up in the system and they start frying your roots. which burns the plant like you have..
 
if your in soil.. you should do your full feed monday and any other feed after in that week should be water... then next weeks feed is monday again ... water the rest of the week and so on.. you should never be consistently feeding chemicals.
 
Looks good u got some time tho u need to see swelling before u even think of checking trics and u may want to control ur temps by that curling of ur leafs i can tell its high and if u want good solid buds gotta keep it down
 
well 99.9% of newer growers never run fresh water cycles... so lets say Monday you feed your fresh nutrient feed.. tuesday you come back and ph balance... top off your resivors... rebalance ppms.. wednesday same thing .. thurday same thing... Friday you SHOULD be draining your resivoir... putting fresh clean PH BALANCED water in and run that water from friday to sunday (checking and keeping a stable ph the whole time on the clean water.. top off obviously too..) .. thats going to flush salts and give your plants a break from chemical feeding.. they need that.. then monday drain the water.. restart fresh solution and go again... thats how a real hydro setup is supposed to be ran... no one does that.. you need to at the very least run fresh water for a weekend once a month AT MINIMUM if you don't you get the salt build up your getting.. it happens when your consistently running chemicals through your system and never flushing it out.. the salts and metals build up in the system and they start frying your roots. which burns the plant like you have..
Makes a lot of sense, these babies went from organic nutes in dwc (I had tons of issues as I was warned I would have), I flushed for about 4 days and switched to GH Flora Micro & Bloom using the Lucas Formula. Everything improved and I vegged for a few more weeks and then flipped it.
I have completely drained the res (Once the initial problems were worked out) about 3 times. I have always done the addback w/tap and my PH has always been ~5.5-6.5, until they started sucking down water. I have just been doing some quick reading and I agree with your suggestion to run balanced water once a week.
Do you think at this point I should add nutes back to the res, or do you think I should just run plain ph'd water until harvest? I have to harvest in ~2 weeks no matter what.
 
Looks good u got some time tho u need to see swelling before u even think of checking trics and u may want to control ur temps by that curling of ur leafs i can tell its high and if u want good solid buds gotta keep it down
no his temps aren't causing that its salt burn.
 
Looks good u got some time tho u need to see swelling before u even think of checking trics and u may want to control ur temps by that curling of ur leafs i can tell its high and if u want good solid buds gotta keep it down
I check temps everyday and they never go above ~80 and never under ~65. I thought it was a heat issue as well, but I thought there is no way that it can be. I even have the temps logging on my computer to make sure lol The humidity ~%45-65
 
Makes a lot of sense, these babies went from organic nutes in dwc (I had tons of issues as I was warned I would have), I flushed for about 4 days and switched to GH Flora Micro & Bloom using the Lucas Formula. Everything improved and I vegged for a few more weeks and then flipped it.
I have completely drained the res (Once the initial problems were worked out) about 3 times. I have always done the addback w/tap and my PH has always been ~5.5-6.5, until they started sucking down water. I have just been doing some quick reading and I agree with your suggestion to run balanced water once a week.
Do you think at this point I should add nutes back to the res, or do you think I should just run plain ph'd water until harvest? I have to harvest in ~2 weeks no matter what.
5.5-6.5 is too much of a fluctuation on hydro you wanna be very stable .... i would never let it swing more than .5 .. believe it or not your plants can shock from a full point ph change.
 
I check temps everyday and they never go above ~80 and never under ~65. I thought it was a heat issue as well, but I thought there is no way that it can be. I even have the temps logging on my computer to make sure lol The humidity ~%45-65
no its not heat or humidity both have total different looks your salt burning ... GUNNER DANG IT listen and learn! :)
 
5.5-6.5 is too much of a fluctuation on hydro you wanna be very stable .... i would never let it swing more than .5 .. believe it or not your plants can shock from a full point ph change.
Yea the swing has been an issue, I definitely learned and will not be growing this many in the tub or if I do cut veg time down.
 
Yea the swing has been an issue, I definitely learned and will not be growing this many in the tub or if I do cut veg time down.
one thing that will stop the major swing are you toping off EVERY DAY and rebalancing your PPM levels?
 
one thing that will stop the major swing are you toping off EVERY DAY and rebalancing your PPM levels?
i have to assume not because your swinging .. thats part of hydro you have to be in there daily checking your PH and rebalancing.. you HAVE GOT TO TOP OFF DAILY or your plants will be sitting in NUTRIENT DENSE water... (which is what creates the burns your having) ... and really hydro you should be rebalancing your PPM levels daily so your plants food isn't swinging...

think of it lile this if you feed them 100ppm monday and they deplete 40ppm overnight because they grew .. now they are bigger and don't have as much food as they did when smaller... so they eat again.. now by wednesday theres hardly any food... your creating food swings too.. in hydro they need that balanced PPM level so they can keep growing and eating as much as the day before when they enlarge in size.. if that makes sense..
 
one thing that will stop the major swing are you toping off EVERY DAY and rebalancing your PPM levels?
Yes, I am very active in my grow area. I top off and rebalance PPM as needed, for the last ~7 days they haven't been eating much if anything. So I was just adding water and making sure the PH was balanced. I had a feeling there was an issue, so I looked around online and I read that in the last few weeks it is not uncommon for plants to slow down eating. I then noticed the leaves getting worse and the plants still not really eating, so I changed the res and put low strength solution in.

Thanks for the quick responses by the way.

So should I just give them balanced water this late in the cycle?
 
Yes, I am very active in my grow area. I top off and rebalance PPM as needed, for the last ~7 days they haven't been eating much if anything. So I was just adding water and making sure the PH was balanced. I had a feeling there was an issued, so I looked around online and I read that in the last few weeks it is not uncommon for plants to slow down eating. I then noticed the leaves getting worse and the plants still not really eating, so I changed the res and put low strength solution in.

So should I just give them balanced water this late in the cycle?
if your about to harvest there should only be plain water in your resivor no nutrients.. and you should be running plain water for 1.5-2 weeks . then harvest.. any sooner and they aren't going to be flushed properly..
 
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