What would you pay?

Will you help me with a little bit of market research?
Suppose that a product that beats bud rot was available. (No I don't mean any of the current offerings, I have my own thoughts as to whether they work or not.)
The product is GRAS for food so there's no problem for edibles, and the heat breakdown products are CO and CO2, same as plant matter.
Let's suppose the product comes as a dry powder sachet, produces 1 gallon of spray, can be added to a standard wand sprayer and diluted with warm water.

Q1: Would you be prepared to try a new product?

Q2: What would be a reasonable price to pay per sachet?

If it was organic, tested and proven safe for all methods of consumption of cannabis then yeah I'd buy it.

If such product existed, I grow for myself, a couple of plants at a time, so if one of my plants get bud rot I have no trouble throwing it away, so I would not spend more than 100 bucks on it, I guess it also depends on how many uses I get out of that gallon.

What's your target market? If it's cannabis growers then the sky's the limit as far as how much you can charge.

Do you want just a niche market in the cannabis world charging cannabis product prices or do you want to target a larger market that you sell the same product to for a realistic price?

xtsho said:

What's your target market? If it's cannabis growers then the sky's the limit as far as how much you can charge.

Do you want just a niche market in the cannabis world charging cannabis product prices or do you want to target a larger market that you sell the same product to for a realistic price?

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I'm not a ripoff merchant so I envisage the product being sold at a reasonable price. I can't see a market other than cannabis, other crops don't suffer the same problem. I see this as primarily for outdoor growers, maybe with large grows.

Cycad said:

I'm not a ripoff merchant so I envisage the product being sold at a reasonable price. I can't see a market other than cannabis, other crops don't suffer the same problem. I see this as primarily for outdoor growers, maybe with large grows.

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Actually other crops do suffer the same problems. Strawberries for one. Most of the treatments are chemical based which is why I won't eat commercially grown strawberries.

I'm curious as to what you've put together. I've been working on something myself and this is the first year that I have not had any PM anywhere in my yard and not a speck of grey mold on my strawberries.

Anyway, I wouldn't be a customer so I'll stop cluttering up your thread.

Good luck.

Here is the thing, if it works and is cheap to produce, there is a very real market for treating botrytis in cannabis. You have people willing to pay for Regalia, which is a great product, on the one hand, and people buying bulk citric acid or potassium bicarbonate on the other. Then in the middle you have the Greencure folks who add a little wetting agent to their potassium bicarbonate and charge a bit more for it. To break into the market, it would probably have to be certifiable as organic, and you'd have to be able to use it on fully formed buds with no residue and no change in looks or taste. There are already cheap and effective solutions if you start early and apply regularly. The people who you would best target are the people who don't do any IPM then come here when they already have budrot and need help.

Cycad said:

Q1: Would you be prepared to try a new product?

Q2: What would be a reasonable price to pay per sachet?

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A1: No

A2: $19.95

xtsho said:

Actually other crops do suffer the same problems. Strawberries for one. Most of the treatments are chemical based which is why I won't eat commercially grown strawberries.

I'm curious as to what you've put together. I've been working on something myself and this is the first year that I have not had any PM anywhere in my yard and not a speck of grey mold on my strawberries.

Anyway, I wouldn't be a customer so I'll stop cluttering up your thread.

Good luck.

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I use my strawberries as a test bed for botrytis treatments, since they get it so regularly. Have you looked into Aspirin and Chitosan sprays? I've tried both, singly and together, and they work incredibly well on strawberries, and even extend the fruit life once picked. Here is a study with chitosan https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222520319_Effect_of_pre-harvest_chitosan_sprays_on_post-harvest_infection_by_Botrytis_cinerea_quality_of_strawberry_fruit

There are also a bunch that look at salicylic acid (acetyl salicylic acid works just as well). It's widely used as a pre/post harvest treatment for grapes too

Cycad said:

Will you help me with a little bit of market research?
Suppose that a product that beats bud rot was available. (No I don't mean any of the current offerings, I have my own thoughts as to whether they work or not.)
The product is GRAS for food so there's no problem for edibles, and the heat breakdown products are CO and CO2, same as plant matter.
Let's suppose the product comes as a dry powder sachet, produces 1 gallon of spray, can be added to a standard wand sprayer and diluted with warm water.

Q1: Would you be prepared to try a new product?

Q2: What would be a reasonable price to pay per sachet?

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Sounds like a great idea. Although a gallon of spray would be a hard sell. 1-5$ per gallon.

popular option now are around that price ime

maybe a larger container that makes 20 gallonsish of spray for 20-30$

Not keen on using aspirin on my plants, honestly. I see that Regalia is claimed to be effective against PM but I saw no claim that it's effective against botrytis. I'm thinking maybe $2 for enough to make 10 gallons of spray.

Cycad said:

Not keen on using aspirin on my plants, honestly. I see that Regalia is claimed to be effective against PM but I saw no claim that it's effective against botrytis. I'm thinking maybe $2 for enough to make 10 gallons of spray.

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Are you trying to go straight to consumer?
Don’t under value your product. Even the safer fungicide brand is 2-3$ a gallon.

I'd pay for it if it worked better than Regalia and chitosan. Only thing I can think of on that level is myclobutanil-type systemic fungicides, which I won't spray on my MJ plants.

I'd pay a good amount if it was proven safe and completely prevented budrot from even starting. But when you say it "beats bud rot," it kinda implies you are talking about a curative rather than a preventative and you would still see some crop loss but be able to halt it once started. Since bud rot is systemic, your product would need to be a systemic or have a translaminar mode of action, like regalia, to be able to kill the botrytis from within the plant.