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cool. and the supreme court still says it has no medicinal value. what a bunch of paid criminals.

the tides are changing.


i see it. it's almost down to the people VS the government. the moral majority is starting to lean in our favor. 20 years ago you couldn't even mention the word. 10 years ago it was discussed but still shunned upon. today i walk around everywhere blazed. over half the people i come into contact with in public are more blazed then me. it is slowly becoming acceptable. you just have to look thru the propaganda to see the truth. i see good things on the horizon.

cool find man...thanks for posting this! cheers....and have a gr8 Saturday!

fdd2blk said:

abc7news.com: Marijuana compound could help fight cancer

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I want to make sure everyone understands whatis happening here, THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS. WTF, why?? What they are trying to do is make another Marinol, Satavix, type compound out of Marijuana to treat cancer. SO it can be a prescription drug and they can make Billions more dollars, as long as 'they keep it 'illegal', with no known medical value.

Notice the 'non-toxic'. Cannibus isn't toxic. Why did they say it that way? Plants that little sucker right in the mind of folks that don't know any better. And if they use statements made before research has been conducted about the carcinogenics in marijuana and how its like smoking a pack of cigarettes etc. they can 'back up the statement'. DO NOT be fooled by this kind of bull shit. NO separate compound is necessary. Check Daniel Tashkin, 1990's and the 2004-2005. VV

VictorVIcious said:

I want to make sure everyone understands whatis happening here, THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS. WTF, why?? What they are trying to do is make another Marinol, Satavix, type compound out of Marijuana to treat cancer. SO it can be a prescription drug and they can make Billions more dollars, as long as 'they keep it 'illegal', with no known medical value.

Notice the 'non-toxic'. Cannibus isn't toxic. Why did they say it that way? Plants that little sucker right in the mind of folks that don't know any better. And if they use statements made before research has been conducted about the carcinogenics in marijuana and how its like smoking a pack of cigarettes etc. they can 'back up the statement'. DO NOT be fooled by this kind of bull shit. NO separate compound is necessary. Check Daniel Tashker, 1990's and the 2004-2005. VV

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i'm gonna disagree. fighting cancer IS a known medicinal value. by stating it's "non-toxic" they are reassuring the public that it's not just pot for stoners. "non-toxic" means it won't hurt you. once they discover a use for it like this it will bust the doors wide open for further research. there is NO way the government will take control of marijuana. it's a plant. we already grow behind closed doors. someone tell me how control would be taken from us. they can't stop me now how will they stop me if it's legalized?

Their view: Cannabis could replace harmful meds

NORML.ORG US CA: Court Tells Cops: Return Medical Marijuana If Drug

NORML.ORG US CA: Police Must Return Medical Pot

NORML.ORG US CA: Editorial: Wrongly Seized Pot Must Be Returned

NORML.ORG US CA: Court Orders Garden Grove Police to Return Seized Pot

NORML.ORG US CA: School of Pot

NORML.ORG US CA: Indoor Weed Cultivation on Rise

Why couldn't these scientist get a grant to really do some thorough testing on cannabis. I mean it's proof that there really is something to this plant. And for the better that is.

Hank.

VictorVIcious said:

I want to make sure everyone understands whatis happening here, THIS IS NOT GOOD NEWS. WTF, why?? What they are trying to do is make another Marinol, Satavix, type compound out of Marijuana to treat cancer. SO it can be a prescription drug and they can make Billions more dollars, as long as 'they keep it 'illegal', with no known medical value.

Notice the 'non-toxic'. Cannibus isn't toxic. Why did they say it that way? Plants that little sucker right in the mind of folks that don't know any better. And if they use statements made before research has been conducted about the carcinogenics in marijuana and how its like smoking a pack of cigarettes etc. they can 'back up the statement'. DO NOT be fooled by this kind of bull shit. NO separate compound is necessary. Check Daniel Tashker, 1990's and the 2004-2005. VV

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After watching the video, I have to agree. Now I am not going to get into a debate as to whether marijuana is gaining acceptance or not, I am just talking about this one story in the video.

You are absolutely right. They have identified a "compound" which is two or more chemicals out of the thousands found in MJ. Given what they reported, the plan is definitely going to be for the pharma industry to take perfectly good MJ, tear it to shreds via chemical processes to isolate a single compound, add a bunch of crap you probably don't need, and market the hell out of it. The finished product won't be MJ anymore, not by a longshot. It will be "Saferex, from the great minds at Scripps" and will cost 188$ a dose- times 100 million women or so ( of proper age )in the country, all of which will have to have AT LEAST 1 dose in their lifetime, meaning the drug company will make a minimum of around 28 billion dollars the first year the drug is out.

MJ will not get proper credit on this one. And yes this particular case will make keeping medical MJ down look even more profitable to the drug companies.But it also may get more people thinking about it in general.

They have done the research in a lot of area's. Look before you attack me on this please understand I spent 1/2 the summer collecting signatures to put MedMJ on the ballot for the State of Michigan. Many see this as the 'Linch Pin State', I hope so. Did anyone look for Tashkin to see what his research showed?? You don't hear about it unless you look for it. His study conducted in 2004 paid for by one of the federal alphabet soups proved the opposite of what he thought he would find. 'They' the other side still qoute what he said in 1994. Thats why 'they' funded the research. VV

My Bad. But do you really think the goverment will add chemicals or alter cannabis? I really should say scientist, but that's what im afraid of. Why can't they just face the fact that there are legal drugs on the market or basically OTC drugs that are far more dangerous than cannabis. I could keep rambling but im going to stop.

And why is Alcohol "advertising" still allowed? This system has me confused.

Hank.

I agree with you VV, I'm not attacking you!

Hank I agree with you 100% the system is completely fucked. I think Alcohol is so accepted because the government makes so much from tax as with cigarettes also.

bigbudeddie said:

Hank I agree with you 100% the system is completely fucked. I think Alcohol is so accepted because the government makes so much from tax as with cigarettes also.

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so why not do that with all drugs? To me, being a coke-head is better than being an alcoholic. Some people would choose to do coke, others wouldnt. just like some drink some dont.

the tide always comes.

now the kids of the stoned kids have kids, and they are stoned. and I am too.


so far i have riddled this in my head, selfserving as it is,

marijuana and red wine have good effects. they may outway thier negative effects.

Its Easy to Tank a Ray

but it may not be very good for your health

that is all I have to say

- PandaBear 2008

the gov doesn't want marijuana to become legalized because it would become more powerful then oil as it was in the past, and then the US can't control it. hemp is the most diverse substance on the planet, let alone all the medical properties of pot.

who is this government you speak of?? I thought we were? VV

Cannabinoids May Inhibit Cancer Cell Invasion On the surface this looks like good news as well. Problem is instead of using MJ they think they need to start clinical trials. I'm sure they won't have to look far for volunteers. VV

VictorVIcious said:

who is this government you speak of?? I thought we were? VV

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these people that represent us are not doing what we want them to do. we should overthrow them
then send a door to door card out in the mail to take a vote of each persons opinion over 13. that decides medical marijuana.

seem good to everyone else? i grow because i love it. not my problem its illegal, those dumb fucks never asked me my opinion.

So we bitch and complain about the whole situation. Let me tell you the truth about drugs, alcohol, and ciggys.

Way back when your Grandma was a kid they decided it would be a good idea to make it a more civilized place by banning Booze and Mary Jane. After war depression and crime on the rise they needed a way to calm the public.
They came to find that Alcohol was more socially acceptable so they decided to make it legal again and this would please the public in 2 ways. First they would take the crime out of alcohol distribution and second they would please the public by not treating them like children anymore. Oh yeah!!! By the way all of these laws were instated without the peoples vote or even their representatives when it was banned originally. They just KINDA made it a law Yes, thats right, "they" as in our friendly government that seems to call itself a Free Nation of the peoples vote. (You can kiss my ass on that one, bunch of bullshit).
Also during that time the Drug commission was formed from the Department of Treasury.Now it is called the DEA. THEY made it up just like they did with their little Patriot Act and Home Land Security... Again America fell for another one of our governments ways of swindling our dollar and keeping you from having legal Marijuana. Remember folks Mary Jane funds terrorism der der der .... Uhhh when was the last time you bought weed from a terrorist or your dealer got weed from an Arab guy from Saudi, UAE, or Afghanistan??? Last time I looked it was coming from the same place it always has, within our borders or just across the Rio Grande. I know where my bud comes from... MEXICO. So if they wanna call Mexico terrorists then be my guest cause I don't think their gonna take kindly to it.
The only crap funding terrorism is SUV's sucking all the gas up. Man did you not see that coming either America??? Get everyone a nice big gas guzzler and then jack the prices up when the job market falls and interest rates rise back again. Sorry, it's not economics; it's our government playing their games. The political party supports the Energy companies and also the Pharmaceutical companies. In turn they payback...Uh hello, ever look at where most of our heads of state have their money invested in? It's very simple. You ban a Plant that can be a drug, fuel, cloth and many more things and this is what you get.