What water is actually good water for these plants?!

G

Gdp1

Well-Known Member
R u making organic tea per feed normal should brew for at least 24 hours plus only watering should be about 6.5 - 6.7 R.O water only when I grew organic .its been awhile since I've grew this way
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

Well-Known Member
Strawberrygrowin said:
I buy coast of Maine from Amazon then I add the half recommended dose of dry amendments and that’s literally it, I have been through this 3 years now it’s MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY the veins turn black then the margins in between the veins begin to discolor and eventually turn yellow what my plant shows is it’s at a constant push and pull on magnesium and idk how tf to balance the shit out my apologies for the frustration but 3 years of my veg being plagued by this bullshit is killing me idk why I can’t get the trace mineral ratio right for my plants
Click to expand...
Well look at some of your variables.

1. choose different dry amendments
2. Use recommend amount since it’s time released
3. Different base soil
4. Liquid nutes

There are some things to try out.

My opinion? At a guess I’d say excess calcium (probably the east coast main soil already high, then the dry amendments add more).

Which is blocking magnesium and other minerals. Just look at this graph and you’ll see excess Ca causes a trace elements to be harder to absorb.

06CEC53E-4089-462C-928D-9B2CE78D2C76.jpeg
 
G

Gdp1

Well-Known Member
Also the soil not the great coast of Maine but made in Canada .I live in Canada and I don't even use this .
 
G

Gdp1

Well-Known Member
Nutty sKunK said:
Well look at some of your variables.

1. choose different dry amendments
2. Use recommend amount since it’s time released
3. Different base soil
4. Liquid nutes

There are some things to try out.

My opinion? At a guess I’d say excess calcium (probably the east coast main soil already high, then the dry amendments add more).

Which is blocking magnesium and other minerals. Just look at this graph and you’ll see excess Ca causes a trace elements to be harder to absorb.

View attachment 5164924
Click to expand...
He's correct it said on the bag slow releasing nitrogen . How much noone really knows
 
S

Strawberrygrowin

Member
Nutty sKunK said:
Well look at some of your variables.

1. choose different dry amendments
2. Use recommend amount since it’s time released
3. Different base soil
4. Liquid nutes

There are some things to try out.

My opinion? At a guess I’d say excess calcium (probably the east coast main soil already high, then the dry amendments add more).

Which is blocking magnesium and other minerals. Just look at this graph and you’ll see excess Ca causes a trace elements to be harder to absorb.

View attachment 5164924
Click to expand...
I have pondered on the soil and dry amendments like you said the calcium is antagonistic to magnesium, I believe my tap water has more calcium then magnesium because my water analysis said something about calcium at 9.4% and magnesium being around 4% so im thinking that was the tap issue maybe but even when I added epsom to the tap water I still got the magnesium deficiency but I will continue trying until I solve this issue I really do appreciate you for your time out of your day to reply bless you
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

Well-Known Member
Strawberrygrowin said:
Thanks il be sure to sway away from actually posting on forums and il just weed through y’all’s dumb ass troll bull shit to find the answers I need, I appreciate the confirmation that todays society is absolute toxic trash and do nothing but kick people when they are fucking down thanks for biting my hand when I just genuinely had my hand out for just a rub of help not even a shake because lord knows you can expect people to be decent anymore bravo and pat on the back to you
Click to expand...
I gave you a serious and correct answer and this is your response?

You’ve already said you’ve tried multiple sources of water. It’s obvious not the issue. Stop blaming the water and others for your mistakes.
 
S

Strawberrygrowin

Member
Gdp1 said:
Also the soil not the great coast of Maine but made in Canada .I live in Canada and I don't even use this .
Click to expand...
I’m on my 3rd grow cycle so I’m still a noob and when you buy something you have to use it so we don’t piss money down the drain but if there are better soils on the market then why is it so often suggested?
 
G

Gdp1

Well-Known Member
If ur use tap water u should let it sit at least 24 hours before use also adding an air stone to ur reservoir helps a lot
 
S

Strawberrygrowin

Member
twentyeight.threefive said:
I gave you a serious and correct answer and this is your response?

You’ve already said you’ve tried multiple sources of water. It’s obvious not the issue. Stop blaming the water and others for your mistakes.
[/QUOTE
Click to expand...
twentyeight.threefive said:
I gave you a serious and correct answer and this is your response?

You’ve already said you’ve tried multiple sources of water. It’s obvious not the issue. Stop blaming the water and others for your mistakes.
Click to expand...
I didn’t know buying good potting soil and adding 4-4-4 dry amendments then watering with 6.5 PH water at 69F 2-4 hours after lights on was a mistake on my part, if it wasn’t to do with TRACE MINERALS I wouldn’t suggest water because I have a brain and can actually figure things out but being that I have only so much study time because this is a fucking hobby and I have serious responsibility like every other adult, I thought I’d ask on a forum to help because prohibition is a bitch my guy and I’m stuck doing it like the 90s so thanks again for being a smart ass troll that’s also ASSUMING like a jack ass they know the solution to my issue but I see no words confining a solution just ignorance so move along to another post where you are welcome bubye
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

Well-Known Member
Strawberrygrowin said:
I have pondered on the soil and dry amendments like you said the calcium is antagonistic to magnesium, I believe my tap water has more calcium then magnesium because my water analysis said something about calcium at 9.4% and magnesium being around 4% so im thinking that was the tap issue maybe but even when I added epsom to the tap water I still got the magnesium deficiency but I will continue trying until I solve this issue I really do appreciate you for your time out of your day to reply bless you
Click to expand...
Look at the chart again. What else is messing with Mag uptake?

Well K and Ca antagonise it. But there’s also synergy in nutrients.

Higher amounts of N requires more Magnesium which coincides with vegging. Might note how P also synergises with Mag.

What NPK ratio is your dry amendments?
 
Nutty sKunK

Nutty sKunK

Well-Known Member
Also what size of pot and how much are you watering them and how often?

Looking back the soil looks very wet…
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

Well-Known Member
calvin.m16 said:
You have plenty of Nitrogen (dark leaves) so I wouldn't suggest using CalMag as it typically contains Calcium Nitrate which obviously will increase Nitrogen and result in tip burn and excess N will also stunt bud development.

Get some Epsom Salts and add it to your water at a ratio of 1 teaspoon per/gallon of water every feeding. This will not increase Nitrogen levels which will help you stop burning the plants.



I have the same question.. Also, what nutrients are being fed other than calmag in the water if any?
Click to expand...
Rurumo said:
Calcium is antagonistic towards magnesium, so by adding cal-mag to fix the problem, you've probably made it worst. Like other's have said, Epsom salts by itself is the way to go, and you might not even need much. What nutrient line are you feeding?
Click to expand...
I skimmed through most of that crap, but these are good answers.

Strawberrygrowin said:
I have used every water source at my disposal with any and every cal/mag supplement I have been recommended to try but YET I still end up with signs of MAGNESIUM DEFICIENCY the pictures do NO JUSTICE because in person under the light these leaves look dark with almost black veins running through the leaves so if anyone wants to keep snow balling recommendations have at it because nothing is actually fixing my problem just making new ones pop up
Click to expand...
What's your water source like? My first thought would be Mg deficiency, possibly from too much Ca locking out Mg.

I'd throw a tiny bit of Langbeinite on, but Epsom can help too. You can also foliar with the Epsom.
 
twentyeight.threefive

twentyeight.threefive

Well-Known Member
Strawberrygrowin said:
I didn’t know buying good potting soil and adding 4-4-4 dry amendments then watering with 6.5 PH water at 69F 2-4 hours after lights on was a mistake on my part, if it wasn’t to do with TRACE MINERALS I wouldn’t suggest water because I have a brain and can actually figure things out but being that I have only so much study time because this is a fucking hobby and I have serious responsibility like every other adult, I thought I’d ask on a forum to help because prohibition is a bitch my guy and I’m stuck doing it like the 90s so thanks again for being a smart ass troll that’s also ASSUMING like a jack ass they know the solution to my issue but I see no words confining a solution just ignorance so move along to another post where you are welcome bubye
Click to expand...
You’ve literally tried every type of water source available to you and the problem persists. If you had a brain like you suggested then you’d realize you’ve already eliminated the water as a possible issue.

I wasn’t being an ass, troll, or even assuming anything. You’re looking for magic growing water and trying to blame your water for something it’s obviously not responsible for.

If your plants are showing a magnesium deficiency then it can only be one of two things. Either you aren’t providing enough or something is preventing the plant from up taking the magnesium like a lockout.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top