What to do?

Racas

Racas

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Hello all,

I'm a first time grower and am stuck with where to go from here.
I was given a big healthy plant at the end of June. It hadn't started to flower then about 3 weeks laters it was amazing... Until it got the dreaded white powder mildew so I did lots of research and I decided to go with Neem oil. So many different ratios so I went with just a teaspoon to a liter of water. The mildew went! Hooray!! But.... Then this happened
(Please see pictures)
I'm assuming the ratio was too strong but I had seen much stronger ratios so thought I would be fine.

Plant - Don't know
Grow - Outdoors
Place - Near Toronto

I didn't spray much and it wasn't in the sun. In fact once I did the spray I put the plant in the dark with 2 fans on it.
I know I did something wrong but want to know if I can save the plant?

Any advice of what to do now would be appreciated.

Thanks
 

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Racas

Racas

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xtsho said:
There is absolutely nothing you can do. Never spray oil based products on cannabis plants in flower.
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I saw lots of peoples write ups saying that they did it and just washed it off after harvest. Maybe they weren't telling the truth or something... I guess I will have to learn the hard way... Shall I just cut it down and through it away then? Thanks for the fast response
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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This is why it is important to research and read labels. This site has number threads on this and many other issues.
You have to remember the point is that the buds are to be consumed …. Why douse it with oil ?

Might as well smoke a pine cone .
 
Racas

Racas

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I thought I did my research... Not sure why some people are saying it's fine because you just wash it out. Obviously got it wrong. Oh well.
 
xtsho

xtsho

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Racas said:
I saw lots of peoples write ups saying that they did it and just washed it off after harvest. Maybe they weren't telling the truth or something... I guess I will have to learn the hard way... Shall I just cut it down and through it away then? Thanks for the fast response
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Don't cut it. Finish it. If after harvest it tastes like crap then make edibles out of it.

Oil isn't going to wash off with just a water bath. Over time the neem will break down but if you spray past 1 or 2 weeks into flower some of it's going to still be there at harvest time.
 
Racas

Racas

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Some write ups say if you do the 4 bucket wash it is fine.

* 1st Lemon and Baking Soda
* 2nd Hydrogen Peroxide
* 3rd Warm Rinse
* 4th Room Temperature Rinse

I could smell the neem 2 weeks ago but I can barely smell it now. Mostly just the typical weed smell.

Thanks
 
PadawanWarrior

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xtsho said:
Don't cut it. Finish it. If after harvest it tastes like crap then make edibles out of it.

Oil isn't going to wash off with just a water bath. Over time the neem will break down but if you spray past 1 or 2 weeks into flower some of it's going to still be there at harvest time.
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Someone yesterday though trichs would wash off with a foliar spray. Gotta love it.
 
xtsho

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OldMedUser said:
How true. Tried 99% ISO on some mites a week before harvest and couldn't catch a buzz smoking a bale of that bud. :( ;)
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Use citric acid. 2.5-3 tsp per quart. It will kill them on contact and not hurt the trichomes. Any citric acid residue will wash off. If you have a mite infestation you want to wash the weed anyway or else you're smoking dead bug carcasses. :spew:
 
OldMedUser

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Seriously tho a few years ago I did a little experiment with neem and Safer's Soap spray by soaking a branch each on the same plant on day 21 of 12/12. The neem one wasn't as bad as the soap one and with bud washing I'd bet the neem one would have been almost un-noticeable but the soap was really stuck in there.

Dilute potassium silicate for a foliar spray kills PM dead and is good for the plants without leaving any taste. Will probably fry the hairs but shouldn't hurt the trichs tho I've only had to use it once in veg. Too dry here usually to get PM but these were donated plants whose pots were actually froze to the dirt floor of my buddy's little greenhouse. He doesn't grow pot in there. Just sends them there to die unless some dumb-ass like me takes pity on them then drags them and their problems home to nurse. Was the beginning of a 2 year war with mites. Got some GG#4 and Pink Kush cuttings off him a couple weeks ago and they only came with thrips. lol Already had thrips going on at home so no biggy.

Good luck!

:peace:
 
PadawanWarrior

PadawanWarrior

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OldMedUser said:
Seriously tho a few years ago I did a little experiment with neem and Safer's Soap spray by soaking a branch each on the same plant on day 21 of 12/12. The neem one wasn't as bad as the soap one and with bud washing I'd bet the neem one would have been almost un-noticeable but the soap was really stuck in there.

Dilute potassium silicate for a foliar spray kills PM dead and is good for the plants without leaving any taste. Will probably fry the hairs but shouldn't hurt the trichs tho I've only had to use it once in veg. Too dry here usually to get PM but these were donated plants whose pots were actually froze to the dirt floor of my buddy's little greenhouse. He doesn't grow pot in there. Just sends them there to die unless some dumb-ass like me takes pity on them then drags them and their problems home to nurse. Was the beginning of a 2 year war with mites. Got some GG#4 and Pink Kush cuttings off him a couple weeks ago and they only came with thrips. lol Already had thrips going on at home so no biggy.

Good luck!

:peace:
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You can't just wash off neem oil. Oil is not water soluble.
 
OldMedUser

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PadawanWarrior said:
You can't just wash off neem oil. Oil is not water soluble.
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When you bud wash with lemon and baking soda followed by a peroxide then clean water rinses it'll be gone. Oils evaporate over time and especially with exposure to bright light and UV rays so it is basically down to carbon molecules by the time it gets rinsed.

I would be totally fine smoking bud treated like that. Not if it got a big dose of neem at week 7 but at week 3 it should be fine with a good wash. You can buy water soluble neem oil for bugs too so that might be a better choice and should rinse off easier.

:peace:
 
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