That was a long rant, with some good information, but I was only referring to this statement:
Roseman he asked about hydroponics not bubbleponics. Bubbleponics is not hydroponics and the two are vastly different in their needs. Bubbleponics is in its own subforum for a reason, because it is not aeroponic or hydroponics, it more closely parallels aerogardens and DWC systems.
Somehow here you tried to claim DWC isn't hydroponics, remember? WAY off base. And then you went off half-cocked about it on Roseman. While I've had disagreements with Roseman in the past, and I've been dissapointed with his ability to give credit where it's due, this statement doesn't make any sense. It's just a personal attack without cause or reason (related to THIS thread) so yeah, you were way off base.
You do not want me to write in an open forum my opinion of Roseman and most of waht g he writes.
Bubbleponics to DWC OK.
I guess it all depends on your definition of hydroponics.
IMHO opinion DWC is not hydroponics it is aquaculture. Bubblephonics is not either but a half aeroponics and half aqua culture system. So neither really. It is writefully like DWC in its own category.
Aquaculture is the growing of a plant where the growing media is water.
Give it another year and we will have even more things wrongly consider as hyrodroponics. If you look at many of the ludicrous defintions (some rightly under slang definitions) now in dictionaries the traditional hydroponics such as growing in inert media such as gravel, perlite, or even hydroton is not hydroponic. They are grow in an inert media and the new definitions use defintion satements like "Cultivation of plants in nutrient solution rather than in soil." By these new definitions only DWC is hydroponics.
NOT. Pretty ludicrous .
The traditional definition of hydroponics is growing in inert media using water carried nutrients that are periodically applied to the inert media and feelyr drained from the media. This means things like, gravel perlite, platic beads. plasy tic films, coarse sand, hydroton, rockmwool. The new definitions exclude these from being defines as hydroponic.
As manfacturers started selling half abked systems where pot plants are grown in a water medium those growing methods have for some reason been used to change some peoples definition of hydroponics to include them. These systems, hust as bubbleponics are not widely accepted systems in the agriculture community.
Growing in a water medium use to just be referred to as aquaculture. Aqua culture included all plants that grow fully submerged in water or with its roots submerged in water.
Many horticulturalists and aquaculturalists still use that term and would consider DWC grown pot as a non water plant growing in an aquaculture system. However it was argued by some (pot growers) that aquaculture should only be ued to describe the purposeful production growth of plants that grow fully submered in water or that naturally grow with their roots in water (ie reeds etc.).
This meant plants that normally grow in a physical media that would also grow in water had no category of their own so pot growers decided to lump those plants growth in water medium as being grown hydroponically. Sad choice. It still is not a widely accepted calssification in academia or the commercial sector of agriculture. It is simply classified by itself as deep water culture, and not as hydroponic. But like slang and such, if excepted even wrongly or follishly by a large number of people it makes it to a dictionary. Once it makes it to a dictionary people run with it no matter how foolish it is.
The traditional definition of hydroponics also does not discern the difference between chemical or organic nutrients, but it excludes those growing system where the roots are submerged in water or suspended in air.
Supension in air is aeroponics. IMHO and in genearl in the agricultural community and acam demia if roots are grown in water they are not in an inert media and therefore not aeroponics or hyroponics. If half in water and half out of water it is not aeroponics or hydroponics it is in its own category as is DWC.
DWC is deep water culture. In a true sence it is not hydroponics as it is growing in water. It is not growing in an inert media which has water nutrients applied, it is growing in the nutrients solution. DWC is either just DWC or it is aquaculture.
Either that or all the traditionlal hydroponic methods fully acceoptedd by hobbyists, the agriculture industry and academia are no longer hydroponics but are now undefined as they do not grow in a nutrient solution but in a inert media occasionally wetted by a nutrient solution. I consider that much more absurd than saying a DWC
aquaculture system is not hydroponic or aeroponic.
Slang Dictionary
dro
and hydro
- n.
hydroponically grown marijuana. : He raises hydro in his basement. , He's got some kickin' dro. Want a piece?
Hard to believe a bunch of pot smokers and pot growers can have enough impact to screw up defintions in dictionaries. If you punch DWC into a internet serach engine you will find all that comes up is DWC pot units and info. It is just not used elsewher and is not com nsidered hydroponic elsewher e to any large extent. It is just another pot culture thing.
I think I will stick to the traditional definition of hydroponics used by the agricultural ins dustry and academia rather than slang definitions and such.
