What should I yield with this setup...

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SmokinTokin

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I'm interested in purchasing the cool-cab from sunlightsheds. Yes I've researched and read I can put one together for a fraction but I just dont have the time or patience for that. I know I need a decent amount of patience just to grow the stuff let alone mess around with building something like this. I want it simple and complete to start with.

That being said, How much could I yield with a setup like this?

I did read that about 2 oz's per plant is normal but I want more then that. I've read that I can remove the cloning section on the top to give myself more room so I plan to do that or even order it like that from the start. I'm not even interested in closing yet, just want to grow hydroponically from seeds on up.

I'm looking to crop 3 lbs + per grow session so I'd like to know if thats possible with this and how long it would take.

I plan on buying the C02 kit as well.

If there is anything else I should purchase with the kit, then please help a newie out.

 
M Blaze

M Blaze

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I dont think you can get anywhere close to 3 pound from that setup. Less than 1lbs if done right would be my guess.
 
jcdws602

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Well to get 3lbs you need almost 3.5 ounces per plant with a 14 plant site set up like the one in the pic.Realistically speaking I don't think it's possible because of the space.I run a 1000 watt light in a 4x12x8 space and i get like 2 zips with Co2,a/c in a flood and drain system with 9-12 plants in a 3x3 tray.
 
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jcdws602 said:
Well to get 3lbs you need almost 3.5 ounces per plant with a 14 plant site set up like the one in the pic.Realistically speaking I don't think it's possible because of the space.I run a 1000 watt light in a 4x12x8 space and i get like 2 zips with Co2,a/c in a flood and drain system with 9-12 plants in a 3x3 tray.
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4 deep, 12 long and 8 tall right?

2 zips means 2 lbs?

a/c means air conditioning?

how many 3x3 trays of 9-12 plants do you have? sounds like 3?

thx for your help in advance and excuse my newbness
 
Xiphos

Xiphos

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In that little container with what looks like only an 400W light for a first time grower I'd say around 5 ounces but an experienced grower could pull out 9 ounces+.
 
KaleoXxX

KaleoXxX

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this is a top of the line set up and you will be able to grow a handful of good ass plants in this. i think your goal of several pounds dry is unrealistic, but you will still like what you get.

and honestly its near impossible for anyone to guess the yield of a plant, let alone guess the yield in a grocab
 
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KaleoXxX said:
this is a top of the line set up and you will be able to grow a handful of good ass plants in this. i think your goal of several pounds dry is unrealistic, but you will still like what you get.

and honestly its near impossible for anyone to guess the yield of a plant, let alone guess the yield in a grocab
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Hmm, well assuming I did about 8-10 plants and 1.5 oz's a plant, then I'd have about 1lb right? How long would that take? 12 weeks?
 
Ronjohn7779

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Don't waste your money on one of those cabs. With two weeks of research you could make your own for way less than a thousand.

For the 1500 to 2000 bucks they charge you could make two grow rooms or hell even two cabs. One for vegging and one for fruiting. That way you could have mother plants, clones, and have a vegging crop while you have a fruiting crop. This speeds things up a bit.

Personally though I only hear mixed things about sunlight shed grow cabs. I imagine its very much so dependent on who puts together the cab at the factory or it's just super newbis totally excited about their 2 grand cab that they overly hype them up. However a lot of complaints I've heard about those cabs is that they either over heat pretty easily and that they leak light like crazy. Neither of which is good for growing. Also no way in hell are you going to grow three lbs a harvest off that thing. I'd say at max you'll get a 1/2 lb maybe a lb (the later being very optimistic). Seriously there is no way you could fill all those grow sights in that hydro setup with plants. At most you could fit 1-3 decently sized plants in that. Or a double that amount in little plants. Also you still need to keep that cab close to a window/have duct work running to it to bring in fresh air. Otherwise things can mold, you plants won't grow as well ect... Personally though I say save your money and build your own setup. If you do that you'll have a setup 300 times better than that shit.

The only parts you really need to make a cab like that is...
1. A cab (they sell plastic rubbermaid cabs at home depot and metal ones too! and that's what sunshed uses for one of their models) or a grow tent (cabs are actually cheaper).
2. A res ( a 25 gal or less DWC system would be fine or you could make a drip system personally though for a cab like that I'd do a DWC as I imagine it would be hard as hell to get that liquid to return back to the res).
3. PC Fans (circulate air)
4. A Inline fan to take out hot air (I'd personally attach that to a cool tube lighting system) and another fan to bring in fresh air.
5. A digital ballast+bulbs+wires+reflector (I'd get a cool tube reflector) I also would use anything over 400ws as I could see that fucker getting real toasty otherwise.
6. Timers+extension cords
7. A CO2 canister+cylinoid (Optional but needed if you don't have an intake/exhaust fan)
8. Mylar reflection material (optional once again)
And thats really all you need.

I bet I could but together a bitchin cab system in less than 12 hours (that includes driving around for stuff, but not including the amount of time it would take to get the HID system shipped off of ebay)
 
KaleoXxX

KaleoXxX

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ya around 12+ weeks. for more yield look into lst and SCROG/SOG methods of growing. lst is simpla and proven to increase crop
 
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SmokinTokin

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Ronjohn7779 said:
Don't waste your money on one of those cabs. With two weeks of research you could make your own for way less than a thousand.

For the 1500 to 2000 bucks they charge you could make two grow rooms or hell even two cabs. One for vegging and one for fruiting. That way you could have mother plants, clones, and have a vegging crop while you have a fruiting crop. This speeds things up a bit.

Personally though I only hear mixed things about sunlight shed grow cabs. I imagine its very much so dependent on who puts together the cab at the factory or it's just super newbis totally excited about their 2 grand cab that they overly hype them up. However a lot of complaints I've heard about those cabs is that they either over heat pretty easily and that they leak light like crazy. Neither of which is good for growing. Also no way in hell are you going to grow three lbs a harvest off that thing. I'd say at max you'll get a 1/2 lb maybe a lb (the later being very optimistic). Seriously there is no way you could fill all those grow sights in that hydro setup with plants. At most you could fit 1-3 decently sized plants in that. Or a double that amount in little plants. Also you still need to keep that cab close to a window/have duct work running to it to bring in fresh air. Otherwise things can mold, you plants won't grow as well ect... Personally though I say save your money and build your own setup. If you do that you'll have a setup 300 times better than that shit.

The only parts you really need to make a cab like that is...
1. A cab (they sell plastic rubbermaid cabs at home depot and metal ones too! and that's what sunshed uses for one of their models) or a grow tent (cabs are actually cheaper).
2. A res ( a 25 gal or less DWC system would be fine or you could make a drip system personally though for a cab like that I'd do a DWC as I imagine it would be hard as hell to get that liquid to return back to the res).
3. PC Fans (circulate air)
4. A Inline fan to take out hot air (I'd personally attach that to a cool tube lighting system) and another fan to bring in fresh air.
5. A digital ballast+bulbs+wires+reflector (I'd get a cool tube reflector) I also would use anything over 400ws as I could see that fucker getting real toasty otherwise.
6. Timers+extension cords
7. A CO2 canister+cylinoid (Optional but needed if you don't have an intake/exhaust fan)
8. Mylar reflection material (optional once again)
And thats really all you need.

I bet I could but together a bitchin cab system in less than 12 hours (that includes driving around for stuff, but not including the amount of time it would take to get the HID system shipped off of ebay)
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DO you think you could help point me in the right direction to get everything online? I'd throw you some $$ for your troubles obviously. I would just want ot built it in the same style filing cabinet as they did and I'd even silicon the crevices. LMK what you think
 
Ronjohn7779

Ronjohn7779

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jcdws602 said:
I run a 1000 watt light in a 4x12x8 space and i get like 2 zips with Co2,a/c in a flood and drain system with 9-12 plants in a 3x3 tray.
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Do you get two Oz a plant or 2 Oz total for your 9-12 plants? The earlier would make more sense than the later. Unless you are growing tiny plants. If you're only getting 2 oz total then you're wasting a fuck load of energy and money on god know what...That better be the best two oz on earth...:peace:
 
Ronjohn7779

Ronjohn7779

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SmokinTokin said:
DO you think you could help point me in the right direction to get everything online? I'd throw you some $$ for your troubles obviously. I would just want ot built it in the same style filing cabinet as they did and I'd even silicon the crevices. LMK what you think
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Yeah. I can help you thats what the people here are here to do. Don't worry about the money!

1. (the cab pick either a vertical or horizontal one) Home depot sells these or buy it online. I'd go to home depot though and see which cab I liked in person. You don't have to buy a rubbermaid so you can go cheaper just know some cheaper products could be made out of toxic materials. Or you could just buy a metal shed or even buy a hydrohut.

http://www.rubbermaid.com/rubbermaid/product/category.jhtml?cat=HPCat100670
(walmart.com has them too).
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8143892&sourceid=1500000000000003260350&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8143892
(so does amazon)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000L0FDM4?ie=UTF8&redirect=true

2. Buy your lights, Pumps, inline fans, ect... from here http://www.htgsupply.com/ or read this thread https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/105460-best-places-go.html

3. Buy your timers or extension cords at home depot or wall mart

4. Heres how to make a deep water culture (this one really is a bubbleponics system but it's what I would do if I were you/hydro system.
https://www.rollitup.org/dwc-bubbleponics/201998-diy-bubbleponics.html

5. Don't forget to buy PPM/EC meters, PH meters, and Temp meters.

6. WHAT EVER YOU DO PLEASE BUY THIS BOOK! http://www.amazon.com/Marijuana-Horticulture-Outdoor-Medical-Growers/dp/187882323X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247554045&sr=8-1

7. Remember to cut wholes in that cab for intake and exhaust ports for air. Fresh air should come in from a lower port than the air leaving and at a higher rate. Also if need for oder control attach a carbon filter to your fan sucking air out of the cab.
 
jcdws602

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I've bought 2 grow tents which is similar to a grow cab in many ways and can tell you now that I wish I would of spent that money on other equipment I needed,I rather just get some wood make a frame and line it up with pandafilm,seal it up real good,good vent system ,some a/c in my case,and bam cheap ass grow room that you can split for a veg and flower room and get a perpetual harvest going.Ohhh yeah zip=ounce like M Blaze said :peace:
 
jcdws602

jcdws602

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Ronjohn7779 said:
Do you get two Oz a plant or 2 Oz total for your 9-12 plants? The earlier would make more sense than the later. Unless you are growing tiny plants. If you're only getting 2 oz total then you're wasting a fuck load of energy and money on god know what...That better be the best two oz on earth...:peace:
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2 + oz a plant :mrgreen: of course hehehe :blsmoke:
 
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dbo24242

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way too small. 3 lb = 84 oz = 28*84 = 840 grams

plan on purchasing at least around 2000w-3000w of lighting to get that much from your grow, you could probably do it with like 16 plants if you're good.

Probably need around 10'x10' of floorspace to accomplish that.
 
Ronjohn7779

Ronjohn7779

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jcdws602 said:
I've bought 2 grow tents which is similar to a grow cab in many ways and can tell you now that I wish I would of spent that money on other equipment I needed,I rather just get some wood make a frame and line it up with pandafilm,seal it up real good,good vent system ,some a/c in my case,and bam cheap ass grow room that you can split for a veg and flower room and get a perpetual harvest going.Ohhh yeah zip=ounce like M Blaze said :peace:
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For sure I agree. In no way do I endorse a grow cab. I was just help the OP out and showing him he doesn't need to waste 1500-2000 bucks on total shit. He also seems dead on set to use a cab. Personally though I think he should just build a room or rooms as I first posted.

If you want to grow good stuff you most def need to grow in a large open space or have room(s)/have a large tent or green house. What I consider to be good stuff is big hearty plants. Not tiny to medium plants stuffed in a cabinet. However I have seen people grow some decent stuff out of their respected cabs, they just weren't hearty large plants. For the most part I agree with you it's not hard at all to build a grow room.
 
jcdws602

jcdws602

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To build a flood and drain system is cheap and easy to build,that's what I use ,I have tried other hydroponic methods and find this to be pretty simple and easy to use.All you need is a flood table,ebb and flow kit,a reservoir,a pump,some medium, and timer that floods the table around 3x's a day.You can buy a lots of things for growing at wal-mart (assuming you live in the u.s) such as reservoirs=totes,fluorescent shop lights and bulbs or CFLs for your veg room if you decide to go fluorescent,loose carbon to make a diy carbon filter,air stone,air pump,temp and humidity meters,timers,plug in strips,extension chords,oscillating fan,probably other things but you get the point.They sell multi purpose trays you use as your flood tray at home depot.YOu simply buy ebb and flow kit,pumps,ph ppm meter or meters ,nutrients and medium online or at a local hydro store if there is one in you area,and their you go ready to get growing ohh yeah your light for flowering.I recommend hid.You will spend significantly less money if you do it yourself and it's not that hard at all really.
 
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jcdws602 said:
I run a 1000 watt light in a 4x12x8 space and i get like 2 zips with Co2,a/c in a flood and drain system with 9-12 plants in a 3x3 tray.
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Not trying to start a fight, but unless I'm too high and reading that wrong, that seems really......low. Really, all that light and grow space and the end result is only 2 zips?

Just trying to understand.
 
jcdws602

jcdws602

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spandy said:
Not trying to start a fight, but unless I'm too high and reading that wrong, that seems really......low. Really, all that light and grow space and the end result is only 2 zips?

Just trying to understand.
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I only veg for a month or a lil bit over sometimes.If I grow monsters (veg longer) I could easily get much more than that but I dont have the space for that,I chop every 56-63 days and get 2-3 zips a plant with 9-12 plants that are like around 18 inches tall when they go into the flowering room.My flood tray is only 3x3.
 
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