What should i do?

jamboss

Well-Known Member
i plan to put together a soil mix using, composted sheep manure, chicken manure, a soil-less potting mix (not as base) and some mixed outdoor soil (not packaged, my base soil), . i can go to the beach and get fresh

seaweed but im not sure whats the best way to implement it in my grow. i'd appreciate some info on the best way of application.

the soil-less potting mix is made locally and it's ingredients are as follow;-

organic compost, peat,water holding agent, osmocote, soluble macro and micro nutrients, fungicide, wetting agent and it's ph is 6.8.
 

DrFever

New Member
well sheep manure is what i use and have great results , can you get or find shrimp compost ??? thats a good additive as well chicken shit is hot ferts and could very well burn your girls
 

jamboss

Well-Known Member
no, i cant get shrimp compost, but i heard good things about using seaweed so i want give it a go.
 

DrFever

New Member
What is good for the goose, is not always good for the gander. There are a few manures that should not be used, primarily those of meat eaters. According to Cornell University, "Homeowners should not use any manure from dogs, cats, or other meat-eating animals, since there is risk of parasites or disease organisms that can be transmitted to humans."
The most common sources of manure are horses, cattle, goats, sheep, rabbits and poultry. Below is a guide showing how manures measure up, nutrient-wise. While all animal manures are good sources of organic matter and nutrients, it's impossible to make a precise analysis, mostly because bedding materials vary so much. For example, manure with straw or sawdust will have a different nitrogen composition than pure manure. But it's useful to know whether the manure you're using is rich or poor in a particular nutrient such as nitrogen.
As you review the list, don't be misled by the N-P-K numbers that suggest manure is less powerful than chemicals. It is actually far better because it contains large amounts of organic matter, so it feeds and builds the soil while it nourishes the plants. This is one of the primary ways that organic fertilizers have a leg-up on chemical ones.
Still, many gardeners can't resist comparing the numerical amounts listed below with what they read on packages of synthetic fertilizers. Unfortunately, the values of manure and organic fertilizers in general, are often based on the relative amount of nitrogen (N), phosphoric acid (P) and potash (K) they contain. While these are important elements, "it is misleading to make a direct comparison between farm manures and chemical fertilizers on the basis of the relative amounts of N-P-K," says Jerry Minnich, author of Rodale's Guide to Composting.
Just like we need to eat to maintain our health, soil needs continual replenishment of its organic matter to decompose into humus. Humus helps create a rich, moisture-retaining soil and makes nutrients available to plants.( For more organic gardening tips, read the current issue of my UpBeet Gardener newsletter.)

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]How common manures measure up[/FONT]​
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Manure[/FONT]ChickenDiary cowHorseSteerRabbitSheep[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]N-P-K[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]1.1 .80 .50[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].25 .15 .25[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].70 .30 .60[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].70 .30 .40[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]2.4 1.4 .60[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif].70.30 .90[/FONT]
[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Sources: Rodale's All-New Encyclopedia of Organic Gardening, An Illustrated Guide to
Organic Gardening
, by Sunset Publishing, and the Rodale Guide to Composting.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Note: Nutrient values of manures vary greatly, depending on the diet and
age of the animals, and the nature and quantiy of bedding in the mix.
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Chicken manure[/FONT]
Poultry manure (chicken in particular) is the richest animal manure in N-P-K. Chicken manure is considered "hot" and must be composted before adding it to the garden. Otherwise, it will burn any plants it comes in contact with.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Dairy (cow) manure[/FONT]
"Dairy Manure may be the single most useful soil-builder around," says Ann Lovejoy, lifetime organic gardener and writer in Seattle, Washington. "Washed dairy manure from healthy cows is just about perfect for garden use; it can be used as a topdressing and for soil improvement," she adds. Dairy manure is preferable to steer manure, which has a higher salt and weed seed content. Though cow manure has low nutrient numbers, that's what makes ist safe to use in unlimited quantities.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Horse manure[/FONT]
Horse manure is about half as rich as chicken manure, but richer in nitrogen than cow manure. And, like chicken droppings, it's considered "hot". Horse manure often contains a lot of weed seeds, which means it's a good idea to compost it using a hot composting method.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Steer manure[/FONT]
Steer manure is one of the old standbys, but it's not the most beloved because it often contains unwanted salts and weed seeds.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Rabbit manure[/FONT]
Rabbit manure is even higher in nitrogen than some poultry manures and it also contains a large amount of phosphorus--important for flower and fruit formation.

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Sheep manure[/FONT]
Sheep manure is another "hot" manure. It is somewhat dry and very rich. Manure from sheep fed hay and grain will be more potent than manure from animals that live on pasture.

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica]How to use manure[/FONT]​
No matter what kind of manure you use, use it as a soil amendment, not a mulch. In other words, don't put raw manure directly on garden soils. Raw manure generally releases nitrogen compounds and ammonia which can burn plant roots, young plants and interfere with seed germination. In fact, it's recommended that all animal manure should be aged for at least 6 months. Many gardeners spread fresh manure in the fall and turn it in to the top 6 inches of soil a month before spring planting.

A better treatment is to hot-compost manure before applying it to the garden. Hot composting, where the pile reaches at least 150 degrees F) helps to reduce the probability of passing dangerous pathogens on to people who handle the manure or eat food grown with manure compost. (For more information about compost, read my Compost Happens! article.)

While the chance of contamination is slim, severe sickness and even death may occur if contaminated produce is eaten. To be safe, either compost your manure or apply it in the fall after harvest. Wash up after handling manure and don't forget to rinse the vegetables and fruit well before you eat them--always a good idea whether your use manure or not.
 

jamboss

Well-Known Member
lol i read that a couple days ago, i was thinking about mulching with the seaweed and i see alot about using kelp meal (products) so i want to find out if using the fresh thing is just or better.
 
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