What kind of bug is this?

I don't think it is spider mites, they are bigger, and the black almost immobile dots are twice as big as this sucker, I just didn't catch one for a pic yet. I have crushed about 5 with my fingers. I have dealt with mites before and these are either giant mites or giant mites. Because they are like 5x the size of an adult mite, also they are black as well as the color of the one I captured. I used my water dropper to pick it up off the stem and put it in this tsp of water.

I should mention these are clones, and they are hurting pretty bad. I didn't use a heating pad in winter and they suffered. But no idea where the bugs came from. Is this the dreaded SCALE?

Unfortunately, you may be right about the scale. Oak lecanium scales look like that. It would explain the tiny white bugs as well.

Good Christ! Fuck am I glad I took 50 more clones when I saw things were going a bit southward! Plus I soaked the cubes in some potassium silicate, and they are looking way better than these sick puppies! I guess I will replace all these sick fucks with some healthy clones that have some potassium silicate in them, to repel these fuckers. I hope Otherwise operation genocide goes into action. I always prefer operation diplomacy, but sometimes it just doesn't work.

HotWaterKarl said:

Good Christ! Fuck am I glad I took 50 more clones when I saw things were going a bit southward! Plus I soaked the cubes in some potassium silicate, and they are looking way better than these sick puppies! I guess I will replace all these sick fucks with some healthy clones that have some potassium silicate in them, to repel these fuckers. I hope Otherwise operation genocide goes into action. I always prefer operation diplomacy, but sometimes it just doesn't work.

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Honestly, I’d never heard of them. They’re pretty nasty.

frizfrazjaz said:

Honestly, I’d never heard of them. They’re pretty nasty.

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I think most people who had them never thought of using potassium silicate. It makes the cell walls too hard to penetrate and the bugs die of starvation, or at the very least can't start massive colonies...

I grow in hydro though and thus can disperse it at a cellular level much more efficiently than a soil grow.

HotWaterKarl said:

I think most people who had them never thought of using potassium silicate. It makes the cell walls too hard to penetrate and the bugs die of starvation, or at the very least can't start massive colonies...

I grow in hydro though and thus can disperse it at a cellular level much more efficiently than a soil grow.

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I dunno what the fuck these fuckers were but I took the room temp down to like 13c for a week and haven't seen any more since. They were strange alright. Anyways shit is on track here now. If you ever get these things pray for winter.

So what bug is that from?

No idea, they are all gone now though.

And good riddance.