So now the government is going to go after the CIA? I can't believe this shit. Why have interrogation techniques been re-labeled as torture? Does anyone here actually think squirting someone with water is torture? Is everyone losing their balls? These interrogation techniques are used on our own military all the time for training. These techniques are effective and necessary to obtain information that keeps us safe.
What is torture?
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ChChoda
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Agreed. Torture is enduring the antics of these elitist leftist politicians and their daily whims, on my damn dime.
sunshine1754
Active Member
Torture would be burning off someone's fingernails and then grinding their fingers off with a belt sander. Gross
BadDog40
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Its called The Geneva Convention.
Do you care to elaborate on your "Geneva Convention" comment. Are you saying the geneva convention is torture? Or do you think squirting people with water is actually a violation of the GC?
You think waterboarding is squirting someone with water..
ViRedd
New Member
What is torture? How about an IRS tax audit? How about the government confiscating the property you worked your ass off to own, only to be given to a developer for increased tax revenue? How about being forced to pay for the health care of someone who drinks five gallons of Diet Pepsi and eats two cases of Twinkies every day. All of which is considered to be "your fair share" by those loudmouths who are railing against water boarding. 
stalebiscuit
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the geneva conventions only applies to civilians and UNIFORMED soldiers
thats why it was technically ok under the geneva convention for the nazis to execute enemy combatants in civilian dress (they are considered spies/saboteurs then)
but torture is any act that leaves lasting physical or mental scaring, ie maiming or keeping someone in solitary and fucking with them for three years straight, or executing a loved one in front of them
ripping up the quran in front of someone is not torture, water-boarding is not torture, getting punched and kicked around to an extent isnt even torture
and if we wanted to torture, we would just use jordanian or syrian police to do it
FlyLikeAnEagle
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Wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention
The treatment of prisoners who do not fall into the categories described in Article 4 has led to the current controversy regarding the interpretation of "unlawful combatants" by the George W. Bush administration. The assumption that such a category as unlawful combatant exists is contradicted by the findings by the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia in the Celebici Judgment. The judgement quoted the 1958 ICRC commentary on the Fourth Geneva Convention: Every person in enemy hands must be either a prisoner of war and, as such, be covered by the Third Convention; or a civilian covered by the Fourth Convention. Furthermore, "There is no intermediate status; nobody in enemy hands can be outside the law,"
K
Keenly
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the geneva convention happened BECAUSE of the nazis
they determined that just following orders is not excuse enough to commit the horrible crimes against humanity that they did
Watch the movie "Rendition". you will see what water boarding really is. Its not squirting water I can assure you. It was designed to mimic drowning for the victim. You do inhale water into your lungs.
Green Cross
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Torture is a Democratic Congress (including Obama) running our country since 2006 
First of all torture certainly does work. Second, what the US does to terrorists and prisoners is not torture. I wish our military could be more harsh with interrogative techniques. Why would anyone give a shit if a terrorist got smacked around a little bit? Is everyone losing their balls? Is there really enough pussy americans out there, that we need to be nice to people that want to destroy America? I hope not, I would still like to think that the majority of Americans still have a pair. If war is scary to you and you can't handle the reality of what war really is, then don't get involved.
londonfog
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stuck on stupid
K
Keenly
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torture works you say?
thats funny because we have "supposed" terrorists who have confessed to bombing buildings that never existed
torture does not work .... they will say anything you want them to to get the torture to stop
Kappin... wow... your sheepleness amazes me
did you know with the recent leak of Government documents (the MIAC report, Lexicon, and DHS report)
that a fairly large percentage, about 30-40%
as well as myself, are classified as terrorist in these documents?
did you know the department of defense teaches its employees protesting is a low level form of terrorism?
your ignorance on the subject blows my mind "who cares if some one smacks around a terrorist"
like i said, a huge chunk of america is now classified as terrorists..
hey do you wanna start torturing people on the no fly list too? over 1 million americans, but hey, they are "known as maybe a possible terrorist"
so according to your logic, its ok to torture those people
thats funny because we have "supposed" terrorists who have confessed to bombing buildings that never existed
torture does not work .... they will say anything you want them to to get the torture to stop
Kappin... wow... your sheepleness amazes me
did you know with the recent leak of Government documents (the MIAC report, Lexicon, and DHS report)
that a fairly large percentage, about 30-40%
as well as myself, are classified as terrorist in these documents?
did you know the department of defense teaches its employees protesting is a low level form of terrorism?
your ignorance on the subject blows my mind "who cares if some one smacks around a terrorist"
like i said, a huge chunk of america is now classified as terrorists..
hey do you wanna start torturing people on the no fly list too? over 1 million americans, but hey, they are "known as maybe a possible terrorist"
so according to your logic, its ok to torture those people
Yes I think everyone should be tortured, including protestors, you, and especially those on the no fly list. Are you serious?
I love America and I think we should do anything we can to protect it. I never said we should torture anyone. I think torture is wrong. I think killing people, especially innocent people is wrong. However, that is what happens in wars.
Lets put it this way. If someone you loved was killed by a terrorist attack, god forbid, and it could have been prevented if someone was waterboarded..... see where i'm goin' with this.