jfgordon1
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lmao 10 inch canonly 10 refils? that's definitely not enough for me
What is the best Vaporizer?
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highflyby
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Just wondering if this is your opinion, or a fact. Because as a FACT, the pumps are the same style pump buddy. I have owned both units, and the difference is the volcano goes through a compression stage where it simply steadies the flow, not actually changing it in any molecular way. So Under your advice, I guess neither vaporizer is "designed for human ingestion." thats a crock of shit brother, its just air being moved from one place to another. And the jack-hammer effect of the herbalaire pump actually works better than the volcanos, resulting in the Herbalaires STUPIDLY good efficiency. I can actually take spent herb from the volcano, put in my herbalaire, and STILL get a bag of vapor.
Well, I personally am using reynolds oven bags, turkey size. They work pretty great, and are in EVERY supermarket(near you). Also, Im working on a way to actually use the valve system setup with the herbalaire, just for folks like you that dont mind spending $500 just to have a sports bottle cap on your bag, LOL.
R&D? What? When? Oh.....what changes thay have done over the years.....they made a DIGITAL version! What Innovation! Dont make me also mention the "innovation" of adding a plastic cap on a bag....its not rocket science, wheres my $500 going? (dont bs me about hardware)
Im sorry, but its just sub-par to me. Please do not take my response as a personal attack on you, or the volcano vaporizer. I base my opinion on facts, so dont think im choosing one over the other for any other reason than it just being better. I own both units, and I truly can say the Herbalaire is a better unit, and not only just for the money.
I invite everyone with questions or concerns on the unit to check out my recent review on the Herbalaire H2.1 unit here - https://www.rollitup.org/medical-marijuana/304788-new-herbalaire-h2-1-full.html
-HfB
poplars
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lmfao hell yeah, I guess it's plausible after all !lmao 10 inch can
any est. about how many refils that can will produce?
I'd really like an estimate
jfgordon1
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Shit brother, the past 5 months i've used it about everyday. Who knows how many times i used it last spring lollmfao hell yeah, I guess it's plausible after all !
any est. about how many refils that can will produce?
I'd really like an estimate
CSI Stickyicky
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Wow! You sound really bitter about something. Perhaps you ought to pack at least one of them, and come on back when you've calmed down a bit.
Did i make a claim that the Volcano "changed the air in a molecular way?" Have you used the original volcano? It had a weaker pump, and no air filter. They have been upgrading the volcano constantly since the beginning, just doing it internally. The outside looks the same, and i dont blame the average consumer for not noticing. I also base my opinion on (lets put it in bold, shall we) facts.
And, by the way, i never said i didnt like the herbalaire, i am stating my preference for one vaporizer over another, and my reasoning, which is why this thread got started to begin with.
The Volcano has over 3 times as many votes as the herbalaire, so i dont think im alone.
highflyby
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Most volcano owners are like mac owners, they wont admit when they have spent too much money, just find ways to try and justify over-spending. Im not bitter at all sir, and I stated that in my post, that it wasent a personal attack, I was just blown away by the statement "the air isnt made for human consumption" or whatever the hell you said. For that to be true, the volcano would have do so something pretty spectacular to the air, besides "filter" it. Nothing happens between the point the air goes into the pump, and when it goes into the bag, besides getting mixed with some vapor
Dont talk nonsense like that again, and we can stay to the facts.
I have looked inside multiple volcanos, and I agree, they have added little bits of BS, but its mostly to justify still charging so much money consistently over the years.
Also wanted to ask, have you ever dealt with the warrenty department for you volcano? Well, me either to be honest, my volcano lasted just outside its warranty
BUT, when I did need to contact herbalaire, you know who answered the phone? The fucking president of the company. I guarantee you will never speak with the president of Storz & Bickel. Im just saying bro, speaking with experience and not some riff raff I read on the internet from other stoners.
-HfB
CSI Stickyicky
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You obviously didnt understand what i said, so why are you commenting on it? Does the maker of the pump on your herbalaire guarantee that your air is contaminant free? how bout the tubing? How about the pump manufacturer? What kind of plastics are used in the unit? the kinds that leach chemicals? You said your Volcano broke, and you sound bitter about it. If you had a bad experience getting the warranty honored, that really sucks. I will cross my fingers on mine. im out of warranty anyway, its been 3 years.
No one stated that the Volcano did some magical act with the air, i think you are getting upset over words that you put in mouth.
Its not just that it moves air, it moves air efficiently. Anyone with a little automotive experience will tell you that you get better air flow by shortening the intake pipe, and removing bends. or an intake pipe tuned for optimal air flow. You get better air flow inside the head by polishing the runners. Headers flow way better than a cast iron exhaust manifold. They both get the job done. They both "work".
highflyby
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No no no sir, you should really read my review, I rave about the Volcano. Im very happy it lasted 4 years, but I also realized I spent too much money, and can admit it.
Well, good job at spewing a bunch of useless information to attempt to make yourself look right, I see through that.
I use a tube that is less that about 5 inches from pump to herbalaire, maybe less. Not that its relevant at all, I see no difference in quality or quantity of vapor compared to the 12 inches of tubing i had before >.<
Man I appreciate your debate, but there just isnt one to have. If you want to spent $500, go ahead, no ones stopping you. But unless you have tried both, and can personally put imput in, Im afraid your opinion is biased. 2 people have ordered the herbalaire and said they will post their thoughts on my review, so feel free to read them yourselves, we shall see
Cheers sticky
laceygirl
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The V- Tower or the Herbalaire will be my next vape that's for sure....
The volcano is the rolls royce of vape but with the price tag to match... If you can get a unit like the two I just mentioned, for half the price, you would be mad to pass it up.. But like I mentioned in a previous post, you don't have to spend big bucks on your first vape Get a quality one for sure... Get used to vaping and then if you love it, spend the big dollars... Its really that simple...
The volcano is the rolls royce of vape but with the price tag to match... If you can get a unit like the two I just mentioned, for half the price, you would be mad to pass it up.. But like I mentioned in a previous post, you don't have to spend big bucks on your first vape Get a quality one for sure... Get used to vaping and then if you love it, spend the big dollars... Its really that simple...
jfgordon1
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For those people who have the Herbalaire... What accessories are worth getting to go along with it? It's so hard to not go ahead and buy one right now
https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=HerbalAire
https://www.vaporstore.com/proddetail.php?prod=HerbalAire
CSI Stickyicky
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bobsgreen
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And yet nothing about the leech chemicals, plastics etc. The Volcano is made with medical grade parts..just my two cents..does the herbalaire guarantee this?(I'm going to assume not, and invite you to prove me wrong) I haven't ever used an herbalaire but I can say I'm very anal when it comes to chemicals, leech chemicals, BPA etc. and wouldn't use a vapo that wasn't made of medical grade materialNo no no sir, you should really read my review, I rave about the Volcano. Im very happy it lasted 4 years, but I also realized I spent too much money, and can admit it.
Well, good job at spewing a bunch of useless information to attempt to make yourself look right, I see through that.
I use a tube that is less that about 5 inches from pump to herbalaire, maybe less. Not that its relevant at all, I see no difference in quality or quantity of vapor compared to the 12 inches of tubing i had before >.<
Man I appreciate your debate, but there just isnt one to have. If you want to spent $500, go ahead, no ones stopping you. But unless you have tried both, and can personally put imput in, Im afraid your opinion is biased. 2 people have ordered the herbalaire and said they will post their thoughts on my review, so feel free to read them yourselves, we shall see
Cheers sticky
poplars
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the herbalaire is made of pure teflon. teflons melting point is around 650F.
that vaporizers max temp is 410-420 or so.
poplars
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resort to the biased results when you have no foot to stand on, nice.
highflyby
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Im sorry I gave that ignorant comment no attention from the get-go. Teflon does not produce ANY give off of any sort until around almost 500 degrees, and again, as poplars said, It only lets to dial up to 400. I will be contacting herbalaire next week to get the Specifics for you on all parts of the unit that air passes through, or maybe ill just throw a coffee filter on it can charge you $500
Maybe ill get you a list of materials used for you as well, since everyone is quick to judge the the unit without knowing anything. Can you tell me the air that goes through the filter, then goes and sits in the compression chamber, does that compression chamber give off any chemicals at a certain heat? It seems like cheap aluminum to me, but who knows, their innovative
Im just reversing the roles here, not looking for actual answers. When debating vapos guys, if your just going to keep saying "oh well, since the herbalaire beats the volcano doing this, can the herbalaire do this? oh it can? Well can it do this? Oh that too? Well i bet it doesent have this!" My point? Stop making arguments, and at some point, just admit the unit may actually be good value for money. I think lacey has it on the nose, I dont mind the volcano, but until I truly have $500 just chillin, im probably not going to buy one again
Buy one when your ready to make that kind of investment. With the volcano, your basically paying for the "experience" of using a volcano, not the actual payoff of a vape, which is quality, and quantity of vapor.(not to mention you can cut back on your herb intake) Like I said, I can take herb from the volcano(spent) and put it in the herbalaire and still fill a bag, can you do the same?Cheers guys
-Hfb
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Do Not. I reapeat, Do NOT buy your vaporizer from anyone other than the manufacturer, if you can. In your case, your looking at the herbalaire for $250, plus shipping, plus all the crap their trying to sell you extra. You can buy your herbalaire direct from Herbalaire Ltd. at http://herbalaire.com/shop.htm
The difference? A 3 year warranty. Also, your guaranteed to get the new pump, available in all new units after January 2010, which isnt always the case with places like vaporstore.com. Just be careful
ACTUALLY, just noticed on the vaporstore they have the pump you can buy, called the bag fill system, and it shows a picture of the old pump, you can see the new pump on the link i put above, direct from herbalaire.
NewGrowth
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Still rather have a Silver Surfer over an Herbalaire. Just because you can re-vape your duff does not make a vape more efficient. Hell I can re-vape duff in my vapor tower all day long if I want to try out some old burnt popcorn tasting vapor.
Silver Surfer looks cool and is super customizable with high quality glass blown parts made right here in Colorado.
And to keep score a little bit the only "bad" thing I've heard about the Volcano is it's high price tag but it's like buying a BMW you get what you pay for . . .
Silver Surfer looks cool and is super customizable with high quality glass blown parts made right here in Colorado.
And to keep score a little bit the only "bad" thing I've heard about the Volcano is it's high price tag but it's like buying a BMW you get what you pay for . . .
poplars
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I just don't like whip vapes.
bag vapes diffuse the good tasting beginning hits with the not as tasty last hits that actually get you higher.
so it goes down to preference here.
I prefer to be able to take a bunch of puffs off of a bag and get higher and higher. consistent taste, consistent smoothness, etc.
with whip vapes, it's much more like hitting a pipe, it can be pretty harsh, and in general the bag just seems much much better to me.
so I guess it goes to preference when we go SSV vs herbalaire . . . though I do think it's more likely people will reasonably extract more with the herbalaire because the bag system makes it MUCH easier to extract much more out of your herb vs the whip vape....
bag vapes diffuse the good tasting beginning hits with the not as tasty last hits that actually get you higher.
so it goes down to preference here.
I prefer to be able to take a bunch of puffs off of a bag and get higher and higher. consistent taste, consistent smoothness, etc.
with whip vapes, it's much more like hitting a pipe, it can be pretty harsh, and in general the bag just seems much much better to me.
so I guess it goes to preference when we go SSV vs herbalaire . . . though I do think it's more likely people will reasonably extract more with the herbalaire because the bag system makes it MUCH easier to extract much more out of your herb vs the whip vape....
g00sEgg
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Good shit on the discing, man!
