What is the all out best butane for BHO?

Sirdabsalot462

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Lucienne usually always passes ” plate test”

Today's Vector = clean plate, maybe 25% of the time now.
They are now adding lubricant oils for the Vector torches they more market.

Last couple of times I've used vector, lots of white greasy residue along the parameter of the oil, I THOUGHT it was clear oil. It is not.

IMO
Vector is no longer acceptable as a solvent.
Go with Lucienne, Colibri, or Newport.

And more refining does not necessarily mean it's better, as a matter of fact, in some manufacturers case, it's worse...
Because the filtration system used is never cleaned, the filters retain impurities, hence passing them forward, rather than being filtered away.
 

650baquet

Active Member
Hmmmmm vector tisk tisk...i hope my stuff is alright then, taste fine to me i guess and i'll still use vector for my next few runs but maybe i'll be switching to something else. Just vector is the only one available locally in bulk(to me and a few others)
 

Sirdabsalot462

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@650 is there the white residue present in your vector?

It's kind of hard to describe in literal terminology..
It looks like white ” splatters” mostly visible along the outside parameter of the oil, that is plastered to the dish.

I first noticed it a few runs back, then.. A thread popped up..
” Vapor Volumes by Vlad”
This was enough for me to immediately stop blasting with Vector.
I too have a fucking case, but it's used to fill my torch (s).

I go through lots of tane between blasting and filling torches.

I just want all my fellow”Blades” safe and healthy

*For those that are not familiar with the term” Blade”
” Blade(s)” Canna-culture term for an individual that makes Hash-Oil on a regular basis.
 

650baquet

Active Member
...fellow blade :)

we need a some sort of seal or shield with that kinda name lol...now all i can think of is the elder scroll games.

Yaaa i guess i'll urge my source to start looking into a different brand of butane. Vector is too expensive for me to be refilling my torches with it cause it takes to long to heat up the domeless i use a bernzomatic propane torch. I still use Vector for my tiny single flame torch that will work great when i get my HealthStone

My butane extraction are not fully purged before i add everclear and i don't seem to notice any odd colors in my butane extraction...just concentrated goodness

I personally want to know if winterizing does AYNTHING to help remove any thing negative that might be in the Vector butane.

I feel like i should always use something with a NEAR ZERO IMPURITIES seal, which vector does not have soooooo
 

Fadedawg

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The impurities that they are talking about in lighter butane are oleaginous waxes (paraffin) and winterizing would remove them from the extraction also.
 

Sirdabsalot462

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FD?
The lubricant oils? added to the lighter fluids for proper maintenance of torch lighters.

These are known as paraffin waxes also?
Judging by the consistency of the substance I speak of, I would like to believe winterization would remove those waxes.
What concerns me; it seems to be oil-based, which going by the nature of any oil based substance: wouldn't it bond with the oleoresin?
 

Fadedawg

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There is no need for lubricant oils, as butane itself is a lubricant.

There is no bonding, the oil is in solution with the solvent. It is easily removed until it reaches the azeotropic balance, at which point the mixture boils at the same temperature as the individual constitutes.

As far as oil based, butane is a simple alkane, which is only carbon and hydrogen. Nothing inherently insalubrious about that.

To put it in perspective, it is non toxic enough to be used as a food propellent, at levels siginificantly greater than is found as residual solvent in even a poorly purged bho extract.

From an inhalation standpoint, it is a simple asphixiant and it took a 65% atmosphere of butane to smother half the rats tested and even a 75% atmosphere of oxygen will kill you.

Now, if you really want to put it into perspective, butane came from plant matter, that has been buried under heat and pressure for an extended period. Just like you can't eat any plant, because it may have toxic substances in it, crude oil has both healthy and unhealthy components. Neither butane, nor the oleaginous waxes are one of the unhealthy ones.

Lastly, if butane has all the lubricating oil and evil spirits in it that are touted, why don't they show up on the gas chromatographs when we test the extracts?
 

Sirdabsalot462

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Thank you for clarifying FD!!

This subject has got my head spinning..

I'm going to go with whatever you say, as you have been my mentor for about 1 year now, and not one subject have you led me down the wrong path.

Edit: This whole subject was brought forth by a another member here on RIU..
The Vapor Volumes, in the medicating section of the forum. He wrote quite the compilation; it was well-written and seemed to have many valid points.

I will edit my posts to reflect your testimony.






Again, thank you!
 

Fadedawg

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Lots of misinformation flying around on the subject of BHO, so it is easy to get led astray. Some of it unintentional and some due to secondary agendas. All any of us can do, is keep our eyes open and vet new information with an open mind.
 

Kase

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Once again great post fadedawg!!

Out of the dozen or so experiments I have done I've found I like the end result with power 5 and vector. Honestly didn't like colibri or a white label 5x filtered I tried.
 

Twitch

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i have noticed different geographical areas get different butane, as in the ronson i have here isnt the same as some of the ronson other people have posted up, and same with neon(brand) gas
 

beginner420

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Idk if your blind or if its the color of he pic but that stuff is pretty bright in color. And I don't have a vac purge or anything special I just use hot water bath
 

Twitch

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i dont think hes blind.. it does look like a frying pan... i like mine scrambled .........

but good looking stuff man
 

Guzias1

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Your eggs look good beginner. But I was talking about the frying pan :)

And i am legally blind with out my glasses. Good guess!
 

Sirdabsalot462

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It does seem to be an old cast iron pan...hehe.:)

Oil looks good, and upon closer inspection, it looks to be in one of them 'dere fancy errrl dishes, with all fancy work n' whatnot..lol
 
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