what is a polyploid plant? Treating seeds with Colchicine

Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Johnnyd907 said:
If you smoke it then tell us is it stronger ?higher THC
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NO, it's not.

This is a poor thread about poly plants!

Facts about Colchicine....
It is poisonous - VERY
It kills over 98% of the seeds and plants treated with it. So viability is poor.
IF the seed pops, it only has about a 50:50 chance to live.
The plant from the seed IS poisonous and you have to get that plant to seed and use the next gen to actually smoke.
Poly plants take forever to veg - very slow growth.

A well known Spanish seed company ran breeding experiments with poly plants in hopes of breeding that into a strain. They took several years to figure out that it would not breed in as a stable trait. They found all the things I listed above to be exactly true.
They scrapped the project!

Poly looks cool, and that's all!

This is not "poly"


That is called whorled phyllotaxy.

Now you all know the truth!
 
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vostok

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Eudora said:
so someone posted a link to a website that had some pretty interesting, yet confusing information on it... below is the article... my question is, what is this process actually doing to the plant seed? What are the advantages to a polyploid plant? Treating seeds with Colchicin
"You can employ a growth changer called Colchicine. This is a bit hard to get and expensive. (Should be ordered through a lab of some sort and costs about $35 a gram.) **** To use the Colchicine, you should prepare your presoaking solution of distilled water with about 0.10 per cent Colchicine. This will cause many of the seeds to die and not germinate, but the ones that do come up will be polyploid plants. This is the accepted difference between such strains as "gold" and normal grass, and yours will DEFINITELY be super weed. **** The problem here is that Colchicine is a poison in larger quantities and bay be poisonous in the first generation of plants. Bill Frake, author of CONNOISSEUR'S HANDBOOK OF MARIJUANA runs a very complete Colchicine treatment down and warns against smoking the first generation plants (all succeeding generations will also be polyploid) because of this poisonous quality. **** However, the Medical Index shows Colchicine being given in very small quantities to people for treatment if various ailments. Although these quantities are small, they would appear to be larger than any you could receive form smoking a seed-treated plant. **** It would be a good idea to buy a copy of CONNOISSEUR'S, if you are planning to attempt this, and read Mr. Drake's complete instructions."There you have it, someone please explain all this
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Seriously Dated tech ...Avoid
 
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cookie master

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its some bs about how many branches per node. Back in the day there was lots of bad advice and thinking that more branches per node equals greater yield is one of those myths.
 
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cookie master

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Dr. Who said:
NO, it's not.

This is a poor thread about poly plants!

Facts about Colchicine....
It is poisonous - VERY
It kills over 98% of the seeds and plants treated with it. So viability is poor.
IF the seed pops, it only has about a 50:50 chance to live.
The plant from the seed IS poisonous and you have to get that plant to seed and use the next gen to actually smoke.
Poly plants take forever to veg - very slow growth.

A well known Spanish seed company ran breeding experiments with poly plants in hopes of breeding that into a strain. They took several years to figure out that it would not breed in as a stable trait. They found all the things I listed above to be exactly true.
They scrapped the project!

Poly looks cool, and that's all!

This is not "poly"


That is called whorled phyllotaxy.


This is not whorled phyllotaxy, this is triploid. This is whorled phyllotaxy on a dandelion-

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinteresting/comments/4fozt5/a_group_of_dandelions_fused_and_grew_together/




Notice the flat stem, lack of further upward growth and the top just stacks heavily.
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Dr. Who

Dr. Who

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Dude. Next time answer outside the quote!

I'm guessing this is your reply?

"This is not whorled phyllotaxy, this is triploid. This is whorled phyllotaxy on a dandelion-

https://www.reddit.com/r/mildlyinte..._group_of_dandelions_fused_and_grew_together/
Notice the flat stem, lack of further upward growth and the top just stacks heavily."

That dandelion is NOT expressing any type of phyllotaxy!
Sorry, that whole answer is incorrect! :oops:

trip·loid
(trĭp′loid′)
adj.
Having three times the haploid number of chromosomes in the cell nucleus: triploid somatic cells.
n.
A triploid organism or cell.

Triploid plants are used in making seedless grapes and watermelons. Banana's are trip too. (for example)

Whorled phyllotaxy


Whorled phyllotaxy is another common mutation, although this is less desirable as a concealment trait as the plants still definitely resemble cannabis. However, many growers find the trait desirable for cosmetic purposes, and some believe that such plants yield flowers of higher potency, although this has not been demonstrably proven.




This was directly taken from here - https://sensiseeds.com/en/blog/everything-you-ever-needed-to-know-about-cannabis-leaves/

Next time you want to argue about a plant's structured growth.
Choose someone who didn't go to college for Ag science's......
 
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