they conserve their money and tell everyone else how to live and who to worship..similar to the oppression on which this country was founded..why do conservatives hate the american way and americans so much?
What exactly are conservatives conserving?
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they conserve their money and tell everyone else how to live and who to worship..similar to the oppression on which this country was founded..why do conservatives hate the american way and americans so much?
Pinworm
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The benevolent and wise are being thwarted, ostracized, what a bummer. Rhymes. The wurld keeeepsss geting dummer. Insensitivity is standard - and faith is being fancied over reason...There's no point for democracy when such blatant ignorance is celebrated.
past times
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You guys are arguing 2 different aspects of conservatives that aren't necessarily related. Fiscal and Social agendas. I think most "conservatives" would align that way based on fiscal policy. So smaller government, less government spending and control. This does not mean that most support anti-social agendas. Just think we should avoid lumping people into 2 categories of staunch or caring...
Pinworm
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Majority rule, don't work in mental institutions. What are we left with? A nation of god-fearing pregnant nationalists, who feel it's their duty to populate the homeland. Pass on traditions, how to get ahead religions, and prosperity via simpleton culture.
+repppppppp
This is absolutely true. Social conservatives are shrinking and dying; within 30 years I think most of that movement will have literally died off. People in my generation are not interested in social conservatism. We grew up in an integrated world and we had access to the internet--we understand, perhaps better than any other group of people in human history, that we have little to fear from people who are different.
Conservatives need to understand that they are alienating this next generation of people when they fight for social conservatism. Fiscal conservatism is very popular--I know lots of people who agree with the Republican party's economic agenda, etc. But they are unwilling to vote for Republicans because of their social policies. A lot of my straight friends, for example, despise the Republicans because of their stance on gay rights. Thinking it's acceptable to turn you back on 10% of the population is moronic because almost everyone else in the population knows and cares about a gay person.
In the future I think we will have a party that blends economic conservatism with social liberalism, and this will be the dominant party. Whether it's going to be a new party or a recasting of one of the old ones I'm not sure, but I do think that's the future.
desert dude
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Good summary of the liberal mindset: If you have ten bucks in your pocket and you want to spend it on a burger, fries and a milkshake you are greedy and selfish!
abandonconflict
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Such a stupid thing I keep hearing. That social views can be separated from economic views is just plain absurd. If you think you're free in this society try going out with out any money. Fiscal conservatism is a euphemism for austerity which is just a "let them eat cake" collective misery mindset. If you want to end welfare, start with the rich.
If you don't want the government to be heavily involved in the economy, it doesn't make much sense to want the government to be heavily involved in the personal lives of people. It has always seemed incredibly inconsistent and contradictory to me.
Pinworm
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You're, of course, speaking of your incoherent posts about stuff and things? No, I'm sure you are.
Have a substantive discussion or shut up. The last posts of yours that I dealt with have no responses from you.
Pinworm
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If I had $10 in my pocket, I'd spend it on some spray paint so I could draw a huge penis on the side of your 1992 Honda Accord.
Pinworm
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Define substantive.
The huge bulge in my pants showcases the size of my penis. I don't need your crude graffiti to help me out.
Avoiding this kind of useless personal bickering.
Pinworm
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potroastV2
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Their ignorance.
They seem to have a very strong ethic to keep that!
They seem to have a very strong ethic to keep that!
abandonconflict
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The government exists to serve the ruling class and protect private property. You have it bassackwards. It is capitalism that cannot exist without gov't. You're the statist. I'm the anarchist.
Pinworm
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I could totally hug you right now. No homo.
I am definitely a statist, that's absolutely true. I don't believe in anarchy or in libertarian agro-paradise.
But I'm not fond of this present system either. What do I want? Equal education for all, equal opportunity at all, and merit-based competition by all. I think wealth should be confiscated from the dead and invested in society, not endlessly passed down to non-earners generation after generation. All people should compete and be forced to earn their places and their fortunes. Since we the people, poor and unwashed, possess far more political power than our elite overlords, this is entirely achievable.
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