CrackerJax
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Bend over.... i dropped my pencil.
What do gays really want?
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CrackerJax
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When are they going to take "colored" out of that abbreviation?NAACP
the naacp is open to all races now who's the dunce?NAACP
CrackerJax
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Let's not get on the colored issue.
Leothwyn
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I don't know about that. My son's only 3, so I'm very protective. Maybe when he's older my perspective will change. But, I would not let my son go camping with strangers. That's it. I don't care what their sexual preferences are. Pedophiles come from all walks of life, so I think it's best to not trust any strangers enough to spend the night alone with my child.
Leothwyn
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Do you think it's a matter of pedophiles choosing to to be priests to gain access?
I always thought it was more of the opposite. I suspect that the warped view of sexuality that the church has fucks with peoples heads. With a priest it's a super concentrated head-fucking. Making them go against the strongest natural drive, and agree to never have sex or masturbate because baby jesus doesn't approve. No wonder their sexuality gets all twisted up, and they never get beyond a confused, fucked up view of sex that they got as little boys.
ChChoda
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How old were you?
RickWhite
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I can see how someone growing up in a Bible thumping home might be confused in a lot of ways. But, for he most part it is well established that pedophiles seek out access to children - even law enforcement is hip to it. Some even build amusement parks in their backyard if they have the coin.
CrackerJax
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I do agree with rick.... pedo's seek out jobs or professions which keep them thick with children. The church's passivity when it came to outing pedo's from their ranks only exasperates the problem.
I went to a catholic summer camp when I was 13. Luckily I could run faster than them.
I went to a catholic summer camp when I was 13. Luckily I could run faster than them.
dukeofbaja
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Rick, your attempts to link homosexuality and pedophilia is about as successfull as your attempts to link homosexuality and mental disease. Both fail!
For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women. Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (197
studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180).
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[FONT=arial, helvetica]Approaches [/FONT]Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994). In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989). Science cannot prove a negative. Thus, these studies do not prove that homosexual or bisexual males are no more likely than heterosexual males to molest children. However, each of them failed to prove the alternative hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.
For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals – who are often characterized as fixated – are attracted to children, not to men or women. Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (197
studied 175 adult males who were convicted in Massachusetts of sexual assault against a child. None of the men had an exclusively homosexual adult sexual orientation. 83 (47%) were classified as "fixated;" 70 others (40%) were classified as regressed adult heterosexuals; the remaining 22 (13%) were classified as regressed adult bisexuals. Of the last group, Groth and Birnbaum observed that "in their adult relationships they engaged in sex on occasion with men as well as with women. However, in no case did this attraction to men exceed their preference for women....There were no men who were primarily sexually attracted to other adult males..." (p.180). [FONT=arial, helvetica]Other [/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica]Approaches [/FONT]Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% in which an adult molester could be identified – only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994). In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989). Science cannot prove a negative. Thus, these studies do not prove that homosexual or bisexual males are no more likely than heterosexual males to molest children. However, each of them failed to prove the alternative hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.
CrackerJax
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Rick just got finished saying he doesn't think there is a link between gays and pedo's. Please pay attention....
Rick:
Now I do not mean to suggest that gays are necessarily pedophiles. What I would rather point out is that the Left bends over backward to sweep anything that might make gays look bad under the rug.
Rick:
Now I do not mean to suggest that gays are necessarily pedophiles. What I would rather point out is that the Left bends over backward to sweep anything that might make gays look bad under the rug.
RickWhite
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Rick, your attempts to link homosexuality and pedophilia is about as successfull as your attempts to link homosexuality and mental disease. Both fail!
For the present discussion, the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman. Instead of gender, their sexual attractions are based primarily on age. These individuals who are often characterized as fixated are attracted to children, not to men or women. Using the fixated-regressed distinction, Groth and Birnbaum (197
[FONT=arial, helvetica]Other [/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica]Approaches [/FONT]Other researchers have taken different approaches, but have similarly failed to find a connection between homosexuality and child molestation. Dr. Carole Jenny and her colleagues reviewed 352 medical charts, representing all of the sexually abused children seen in the emergency room or child abuse clinic of a Denver children's hospital during a one-year period (from July 1, 1991 to June 30, 1992). The molester was a gay or lesbian adult in fewer than 1% in which an adult molester could be identified only 2 of the 269 cases (Jenny et al., 1994). In yet another approach to studying adult sexual attraction to children, some Canadian researchers observed how homosexual and heterosexual adult men responded to slides of males and females of various ages (child, pubescent, and mature adult). All of the research subjects were first screened to ensure that they preferred physically mature sexual partners. In some of the slides shown to subjects, the model was clothed; in others, he or she was nude. The slides were accompanied by audio recordings. The recordings paired with the nude models described an imaginary sexual interaction between the model and the subject. The recordings paired with the pictures of clothed models described the model engaging in neutral activities (e.g., swimming). To measure sexual arousal, changes in the subjects' penis volume were monitored while they watched the slides and listened to the audiotapes. The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989). Science cannot prove a negative. Thus, these studies do not prove that homosexual or bisexual males are no more likely than heterosexual males to molest children. However, each of them failed to prove the alternative hypothesis that homosexual males are more likely than heterosexual men to molest children or to be sexually attracted to children or adolescents.
You just completely crushed your own credibility. first, you claimed that animals can be defined as gay based on the simple act of attempting to mate with another same sex animal.
Now you are making the exact opposite argument here:
the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman.
Aside from the fact that this is utterly absurd, and these so called "studies" are nothing more than more pseudo-scientific activism, you are arguing that limits of the sexual nature of certain people negates the possibility of being gay. But before you argued that the same is not true of animals that have zero ability to contemplate sexuality.
Any male who is aware of his actions and chooses to have sex with another male is a homosexual. Whether or not he also has sex with other adult men is irrelevant. Anyone who suggests otherwise only proves that they have zero credibility and are only interested in proving their point regardless of the facts. Who decided a person must have sex with adult men and not just boys to be homosexual? That is about the most asinine thing I have ever heard. It does however demonstrate just how far the gay activist crowd will go to achieve their ends.
Anyway, you just contradicted your self 100% and you have just proved beyond question that you will say anything to win an argument no matter how absurd.
Like the rest of your feeble attempts, you have failed miserably and have only proved that you have zero credibility.
RickWhite
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The researchers found that homosexual males responded no more to male children than heterosexual males responded to female children (Freund et al., 1989).
Gee, that is fucking comforting - did they say how old the children were because I've seen 13 year old girls who were busting out everywhere. Decent men control themselves of course but to say they aren't attractive is a lie.
Also, let me repeat that while I am saying 100% of men who molest boys are gay (regardless of the bullshit qualifiers listed above), I did not say that all or most gays are pedophiles. Nor did I say that straights are not pedophiles - clearly many straight men molest young girls.
I did however have the utmost confidence that Duke and perhaps others would try to spin it to suggest that I did. It is after all, what they do.
Gee, that is fucking comforting - did they say how old the children were because I've seen 13 year old girls who were busting out everywhere. Decent men control themselves of course but to say they aren't attractive is a lie.
Also, let me repeat that while I am saying 100% of men who molest boys are gay (regardless of the bullshit qualifiers listed above), I did not say that all or most gays are pedophiles. Nor did I say that straights are not pedophiles - clearly many straight men molest young girls.
I did however have the utmost confidence that Duke and perhaps others would try to spin it to suggest that I did. It is after all, what they do.
CrackerJax
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Only white gays.... no coloreds. 
RickWhite
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As a matter of fact, yes. The exact same arguments could be used to defend necrophilia. After all, i don't believe there are studies showing that there is anything unnatural with necrophilia. Can anyone demonstrate what is morally wrong with it?
haha if we legalize weed what's next mandatory crack smoking?
dukeofbaja
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You just completely crushed your own credibility. first, you claimed that animals can be defined as gay based on the simple act of attempting to mate with another same sex animal.
Now you are making the exact opposite argument here:
the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman.
I am curious as to how well you do on reading comprehension tests. Just because a pedophile cannot be MEANINGFULLY described as a homosexual (because their attraction is based on age, not gender or anything else) does not mean that they are incapable of having homosexual or heterosexual tendencies. Just like those animals who form same sex pair bonds. There is no contradiction here.
Aside from the fact that this is utterly absurd, and these so called "studies" are nothing more than more pseudo-scientific activism, you are arguing that limits of the sexual nature of certain people negates the possibility of being gay. But before you argued that the same is not true of animals that have zero ability to contemplate sexuality.
Where did I argue that 'limits of sexual nature of some people negates the possibility of being gay'? Again, they cannot be MEAINGFULLY DESCRIBED as gay because for the most part, gender does not form the basis for their attraction, age does. But that doesn't mean tha they can't have tendencies which would put them somewhere on the homo-hetero spectrum, just like animals who form same sex pair bonds despite available opposite sex partners.
Any male who is aware of his actions and chooses to have sex with another male is a homosexual. Whether or not he also has sex with other adult men is irrelevant.
Funny, every single social scientist, psychologist, therapist or other person who knows what the fuck they are talking about would disagree with you. Someone who only has sex with young boys is not a homosexual, he is a pedophile. He is not looking at gender, he is looking at age. If he has sex with other men his age as well, then he is a pedophile with homosexual tendencies. But guess what? Since you obviously did not read anything I posted, I will spell it out for you: most pedophiles display heterosexual tendencies!
Who decided a person must have sex with adult men and not just boys to be homosexual? That is about the most asinine thing I have ever heard.
So, how would you describe a man who only had sex with young boys? I would call that person a pedophile. If you choose to call him a homosexual, whatever, you must not have that great a grasp on language or reality. I bet every single person on this board would label that person a pedophile as well. It is because gender is not their motivator, it is age.
Like the rest of your feeble attempts, you have failed miserably and have only proved that you have zero credibility.
You had better dismiss social sciences and psychology while you're at it. They agree with me, not you
Now you are making the exact opposite argument here:
the important point is that many child molesters cannot be meaningfully described as homosexuals, heterosexuals, or bisexuals (in the usual sense of those terms) because they are not really capable of a relationship with an adult man or woman.
I am curious as to how well you do on reading comprehension tests. Just because a pedophile cannot be MEANINGFULLY described as a homosexual (because their attraction is based on age, not gender or anything else) does not mean that they are incapable of having homosexual or heterosexual tendencies. Just like those animals who form same sex pair bonds. There is no contradiction here.
Aside from the fact that this is utterly absurd, and these so called "studies" are nothing more than more pseudo-scientific activism, you are arguing that limits of the sexual nature of certain people negates the possibility of being gay. But before you argued that the same is not true of animals that have zero ability to contemplate sexuality.
Where did I argue that 'limits of sexual nature of some people negates the possibility of being gay'? Again, they cannot be MEAINGFULLY DESCRIBED as gay because for the most part, gender does not form the basis for their attraction, age does. But that doesn't mean tha they can't have tendencies which would put them somewhere on the homo-hetero spectrum, just like animals who form same sex pair bonds despite available opposite sex partners.
Any male who is aware of his actions and chooses to have sex with another male is a homosexual. Whether or not he also has sex with other adult men is irrelevant.
Funny, every single social scientist, psychologist, therapist or other person who knows what the fuck they are talking about would disagree with you. Someone who only has sex with young boys is not a homosexual, he is a pedophile. He is not looking at gender, he is looking at age. If he has sex with other men his age as well, then he is a pedophile with homosexual tendencies. But guess what? Since you obviously did not read anything I posted, I will spell it out for you: most pedophiles display heterosexual tendencies!
Who decided a person must have sex with adult men and not just boys to be homosexual? That is about the most asinine thing I have ever heard.
So, how would you describe a man who only had sex with young boys? I would call that person a pedophile. If you choose to call him a homosexual, whatever, you must not have that great a grasp on language or reality. I bet every single person on this board would label that person a pedophile as well. It is because gender is not their motivator, it is age.
Like the rest of your feeble attempts, you have failed miserably and have only proved that you have zero credibility.
You had better dismiss social sciences and psychology while you're at it. They agree with me, not you
dukeofbaja
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I am going to donate my body to necrophiliacs once I die. Fuck, they aren't hurting anyone if they only try to have sex with dead people. Plus why do I care what the fuck is happening to my body once I am dead?
Just a bit of side humor