what are you running now ?

Week 3-ish of flower, first run through for me. Growing Herijuana fems from Sannies.

Uncle Ben said:

Compared to most forums I belong to pot growers tend to be dysfunctional, undisciplined, come from abusive, broken or single parent families, have issues with substance abuse and psychological issues with depression being one of the primary problems.


UB

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Really? Boy oh boy. I guess, like you said it is what it is. Good day. I'm sure more of them are well to do middle class conservative spoiled white kids. Parents who spared the rod and spoiled little Johnny jr.

I amazed by the way that so many people can be so convinced that theirs' is the only correct way of doing something. I know some great growers who take pains to keep every leaf on the plant green and healthy through the entire life cycle of the plant and some who defoliate heavily who get great results. It's what works for them. I was just talking with a guy elsewhere who has a totally different style of growing than I do who I have tremendous respect for because his results are awesome. Sometimes I want to get to my destination by taking the highway but sometimes I want to take back roads. Both have advantages over the other depending on your point of view, neither one is better or right.
There are so many variable in measuring the efficiency of a grow that it's really impossible to take them all into account and come up with a conclusive best way of doing it. You want great yields indoors fill your flower space with an even full canopy and give them adequate air, food, and light. There's a lot of ways to do it so experiment and find the on that you like best or feel works best for you.

Uncle Ben said:

... pot growers tend to be dysfunctional, undisciplined, come from abusive, broken or single parent families, have issues with substance abuse and psychological issues with depression being one of the primary problems.

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I'll abuse my harvest all day ! In all seriousness, forums in general suffer from the fact that they are openly accessible, have a predefined purpose and structure, and no way of real democratic moderation (forums have only a few people who are "bestowed" with the ability to mod).

Open accessibility results in a constant flow of people new to growing asking the same questions over and over. On the PROs side, it, in theory, would allow the greater spread of information but given that the information is being diluted, bastardized, and rehashed along the way, is that really a good thing? I bet you "ADPC" (back when I was certainly playing with pokemon on gameboy and crash bandicoot on psx), even with the bickering inherit to most communities, still spread a good deal of information. Signal to noise ratio was higher. So the noise has to be kept down/managed.

By "predefined purpose", I mean the site owner probably set out to a) spread info/create a community and b) profit. Nothing we can do about the profiting part, as long as community expenses are paid, can't really bitch. While doing A, and choosing a forum software, and setting up a forum software, predefined subforums are created. Now this is all fine and well but its already imposing structure on us. Hell maybe I want my own "Quisque que?" subforum wherein I'm a mod and whoever posts in it, at their choosing, is subject to my moderation, and I can say "fuck [insert breeder here]" all I want. Surely, such an ability would still need to be controlled but what it allows for is smaller subsections being created. Some will be micro-small (0-10 people constantly in there), and some will be started by people like UB or GK and will be larger.

On community moderation: up vote, down vote, report. Up votes (similar to likes) are visible, down votes are hidden (until the currently logged in user reaches a certain point within the community wherein he is "rewarded" with the ability to see down votes) Voters are always kept hidden, vote counts are visible.

Think a Reddit-like forum, except instead of just /r/trees, it'd be /r/newbies, /r/soil, /r/hydro, /r/coco, /r/gudkarmasbdsmplaypen, /r/unclebensprovinggrounds, etc.

Meh, just a thought.


GK, while I usually take your posts with a grain of sarcasm, such a thing would not be a bad idea. In general, a lot of advice here is just given and not enough experimentation happens. When it does, the process isn't shared and it results in more information being "just given". I don't condone making a video ATTACKING someone (why does it always have to be personal?), but I'm all for showing someone else what is bad advice and what isn't, what works and what doesn't, etc. a three group experiment with video would be awesome.

whats works for one strain wont for another...i mean i gotta defoliate this bubba kush or it just gets all ingrown, while the next strain hates having leaves removed. this is why you need to run every strain multiple times with experimentation each time. some like getting tied up and cuffed while others like getting cut and electrocuted.


those sound like some gud kuts to test with! ill feed the....

GK I bet that if you gave it a few runs to tweak his way you'd probably be getting similar results to how you do now. My issue isn't with his methods per se, just the idea that they are always right and if people aren't using them they're growing wrong. If you have more weed than you can smoke I really fail to see how you can be doing it wrong.
I wouldn't foliar feed anything in flower, but I've seen the combo of foliage pro and protekt straight through do well.
I run a perpetual and do top my plants to get multiple short colas but it's to keep them so they fit in my tiny little veg tote and still produce well in flower as much as anything else. I then LST those down so I get a whole bunch of buds on a short plant. It works for my space and that's what matters to me.

My tweaks apply no matter how you choose to deliver water and salts to your plants.....period. If you don't understand that, then you need to enroll in Botany 101.

For the most part, there is no "wrong way". You can grow in your grandma's combat boots if you wish.... have at it. With all the gimmicks you find around here, I'm surprised someone has done a journal on it yet.

UB

gudkarma said:

just got back from the 'dro store ....

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The 'dro' store, eh? Well, isn't that special....and so fuckin' cool! How much did ya piss off this time? Too much. Could have got it cheaper, not spent gas money or tax.....right to your door. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dyna-Gro-Foliage-Pro-128-oz-Gallon-liquid-plant-food-nutrient-bloom-grow-/200813880351?pt=Fertilizer_Soil_Amendments&hash=item2ec170a41f

I still have some Zamal seeds left. Runnin' a special today. For you, $500/bean, but ya gotta act fast.....special won't last for long. Lots cheaper than a boat ride to La Reunion island ya know.

Yeah, it's time for some pix of your garden. Put up or shut up.

Uncle Ben

Lmfao the Dro store hahahaa

commercial growers love sea of green, no?

Depends on how they feel about possible jail time, but yeah.

^ LOL !

so true.

i always have plants in flower at various stages.

right now, there's 29 plants in 3 gallon containers at various stages of flower.
5 come down in the next 10 days (sour kush, bodhi's nl#5 , berry critical haze) & tables need a fillin !

threw down two blue santa , bb x santa maria (plank cut) , last night.

should see these beauties. but not till the vid comes so hopefully they'll make the cut.

[video=youtube;dKq0QcP1mug]http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=dKq0QcP1mug[/video] tried to change the thumbnail, impossible lol.

Help me choose 1:

Super Lemon Haze
Pineapple Express
Holy Princess
Destroyer (CBG)
Silverfields

Destroyer would be my top choice then the silverfields. I just watched a grow of Destroyer and I was really impressed with it.

I keep hearing all these great things about Holy Princess too. It's hard to make a decision about these kinds of things. I think all will probably come up with winners.

I had thrown a holy princess (maybe it was two) into flowering a while back (was getting too close to summer to do it justice with a full run). Came out tasting like straight fruity pebbles. High was good. That last batch I had 1-3 clones of cracked JTR, Chucky, HP, Riri, TE(r), Deathdawg, and Jillybean. TE(r) was next to deathdawg, which hermied and messed up most of the TE(r). Chucky was okay but not great, it deserve going through a pack properly though. Jillybean is what I'm still smoking now which means its the one I kept avoiding.

The JTR gave me the type of high I liked along with the smell/taste (it was weird like vanilla lemon wafers). The Riri packed a punch but needed to have been grown better. Holy princess though... the fruity pebbles taste was unique. Also, after having gone through the TE(R) and DD, it was much needed relief.

Anyways, found some bamboo growing, was around 7-10 ft. Cut em down and going to strip them to make some free supports.

I've got
Emerald triangle Madtadon kush
female seeds C99
Big Buddha seeds Bubble Cheese
Death Star
Reserva privadas OG18
treetown seeds Project 13
DNA Ultra Sour
Himboldt seed organization Lenon Thai Kush
G13 labs Blue OG

greenghost420 said:

commercial growers love sea of green, no?

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I agree, the place of nonviolated minds is the playground.peace.

just seems like untopped would make sense cashcropping and doing commercial runs. but like previously said, all strain AND grower dependent!